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Dyna Models are 2nd Class Citizens - 5/15/2007 11:58:48 PM   
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So a couple of weekends ago, we had this Miracle Mile Ride that benefitted a Children's Hospital.  Over 5,000 Bikes of all kinds but predominantly Harleys attended.  Met a lot of Bikers I haven't encountered before and had a great time.  So after the Ride was over, some of us met up for a few laughs, beers & hotdogs and this conversation started about Dynas vs SoftTails.  The sensus was, most of the guys think the softtail family makes better looking bikes but the dyna family out performs all.  I happen to lthink the Dynas are nicer looking and perfom better.  I haven't modified my engine as yet and still can outrun one friend who has an 06 Nighttrain and another friend who rides a Softtail Standard. 

But I'll tll ya'll a little secret, for those who might race a 1/4 Mile every now & then, it's all about the Heart my Friends.  You can race anybody and beat them if your heart is bigger.  Fear is a good thing but it has no place in racing.  Bcuz, it will tend to make you back off a tad at any point where you start to feel your frontend wobble a bit.  I trust my skills and I trust my Ride. 

So my Q is this, Have any of you heard guys trying to tell you the Dyna is a lower class of Harley?

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RE: Dyna Models are 2nd Class Citizens - 5/16/2007 12:36:31 AM   
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Part of the reason I "DIG" my Dyna is because there are not alot out there. One of the guys at my job keeps asking me when am I going to go bigger? But, why would I want to go bigger... and SLOWER? This is it for me, I really like my ride. To each their own... I am going keep riding my Dyna, in the front of the pack that is! 

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RE: Dyna Models are 2nd Class Citizens - 5/16/2007 1:08:33 AM   
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it was my understanding sportsters were the second class citizens. oh no i got it wrong, we're the second class citizens, sportsters are the red headed step children. my bad. like em all but wanted to be able to have a bike that performed the best all around for how i like to ride. dyna fit the bill perfectly. won't be the last time i ride a second class citizen. ha ha.

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RE: Dyna Models are 2nd Class Citizens - 5/16/2007 1:09:29 AM   
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Part of the reason I "DIG" my Dyna is because there are not alot out there. One of the guys at my job keeps asking me when am I going to go bigger? But, why would I want to go bigger... and SLOWER? This is it for me, I really like my ride. To each their own... I am going keep riding my Dyna, in the front of the pack that is! 

She looks brand new.  How do you clean her or have you broke a K yet ?  Nice and Sleek looking Machine and I really like that Solo seat. Was that Stock becuz I'm thinking I mught wanted to apply it to my Bike. 


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RE: Dyna Models are 2nd Class Citizens - 5/16/2007 3:02:49 AM   
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I've never gotten this.  Everyone who looks at my bike likes the dyna.  They just prefer their bike whether it's a softail, touring or whatever.

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RE: Dyna Models are 2nd Class Citizens - 5/16/2007 7:34:54 AM   
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I certainly haven't heard that , especially from a softail owner.  Bagger boys give me a well meaning nudge that some day I'll move up , but it's all well meaning.

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RE: Dyna Models are 2nd Class Citizens - 5/16/2007 7:42:34 AM   
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It's not as bad as when I had a Sportster!

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RE: Dyna Models are 2nd Class Citizens - 5/16/2007 7:43:44 AM   
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I personally prefer the dynas for a couple reasons. One is the fact that I can see the rear shocks...I've always like that look.  I also love the rake and wide front end of the wide glide along with the bobtail rear fender.  Now, I would love to have a softail...but not for everyday cruising.  I would love to have a softail standard and make it into a chopper style of bike for shows, or for quick trips.  IMO, the softail was made a softail to make it look like a hardtail...or that chopper look.  So I guess it is a hardail wannabe.  Now, a cheaper version of the big engine HD would be the superglide...not a second class type of bike...just the type of bike that you buy and fix it the way you want to...kinda like a softail standard.  IMHO, I haven't owned Harleys for speed and handling...I've bought them for cruising.  If I wanted speed and handling I would have gone with e Buell or even a bullet bike.  It is true, a superglide will not hit your wallet as hard as a softail if you want to get into a Harley...and a sportster will hit your wallet even less...but who cares, the fact that HD builds so many different models is to try and fit consumer's budget, personalities, and styles.

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RE: Dyna Models are 2nd Class Citizens - 5/16/2007 7:47:29 AM   
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got the same strong impression when talking to a couple fatboy's the other day at the dealer. they were snobish. fugem. arseholes for sure .

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RE: Dyna Models are 2nd Class Citizens - 5/16/2007 7:57:21 AM   
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the bike snob crap sure gets old hat.

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RE: Dyna Models are 2nd Class Citizens - 5/16/2007 8:28:16 AM   
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If I wanted to ride a rolling sofa I would have bought one. You buy what appeals to your eye and my dyna is the ticket. Doesnt matter what others think. I heard all this crap when I had my sporty. You need a bigger bike. Got a bigger bike that fits my riding style. If I want to cruise a couple hundred miles or if I want to putt around town I can do just that. Got freinds with Road Glides and Street Glides. Both say they really like my ride. Wish they had one also, but their riding style is different than mine. If they think for a minute that I cant keep up with them , they are sadly mistaken. It will always be the same, my bike is better than yours bull###t. The idea is to ride, and have fun doing it. Too many people worry too much about status. Riding my Dyna till the wheels fall off!!

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RE: Dyna Models are 2nd Class Citizens - 5/16/2007 9:07:29 AM   
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I wanted a night train but after riding my street bob I would not get one I love the way this bike rides and the guts it has when you want even stock it will move when I want it to and I rode it 700 miles the first weekend I had it and 500 was all in one day. I never listen to what other people say cause its just what they like I am grown and make my own mind up about things. I still like the way the night train looks but I like the street bob better it looks good and handles good.

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RE: Dyna Models are 2nd Class Citizens - 5/16/2007 9:12:07 AM   
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Wait.....HD makes another line of bikes?

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RE: Dyna Models are 2nd Class Citizens - 5/16/2007 10:20:20 AM   
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I don't know about the 2nd class citizen thing, but i do see many more baggers around here...with riders of all ages on 'em...than i do Dynas. Must be the bigger is better mentality.I guess it just takes riders of discerning taste and superior character to appreciate the finest HD has to offer! As for myself, i couldn't be happier with my Dyna.

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RE: Dyna Models are 2nd Class Citizens - 5/16/2007 10:30:40 AM   
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The baggers aren't any bigger, they've just got more crap stuck to them.  The wide glide has a longer wheelbase than any of the baggers, and the wheelbase on the rest of the dyna's is at least similar to most of the touring models.

At any rate, I'm guilty of a little inter-brand HD snobbery myself I suppose, as I don't consider the softail lineup to be "real" harleys.  Balanced engines, and a soft rear that is trying to look like something it's not just doesn't do anything for me.  What makes it even funnier, is the softail guys at the meets turning their nose up to the dyna and sporty riders, when it's the softail riders that are riding the real "poser" bikes.

At any rate, ride what you want, ride what you like, and don't give a f'ck about what anyone else, including me, thinks about it.  Far as I'm concerned, MY opinion is meaningless when it comes to what YOU want to ride.





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RE: Dyna Models are 2nd Class Citizens - 5/16/2007 11:19:58 AM   
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Why hasn't anyone mentioned the v-rod.  I always hear from v-rod guys that they are treated like second class harleys.  Not by me, I like the VRSC family.  Bottom line is, no harley is better than another.  Different strokes for different folks!

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RE: Dyna Models are 2nd Class Citizens - 5/16/2007 11:59:47 AM   
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V-rod, I love the engine.  Love the water cooling.  Love the Front and Rear suspensions.  Love the brakes.

Hate the styling.  Hate the riding position (Even the Nightrod is borderline crap for riding position)

If I don't like to look at it or ride it, I will not own it.  But I sure wish they would put that motor in my Dyna....lol.


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RE: Dyna Models are 2nd Class Citizens - 5/16/2007 12:08:46 PM   
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to each his own.like said before. to me the v-rod is like a crotch rocket.i don't think the ysell much around here.one days ride on one of those would lay me up with a kicked out back.

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RE: Dyna Models are 2nd Class Citizens - 5/16/2007 12:41:15 PM   
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Man, I never get this... I get ignored by softail guys, but usually they're the wannabe badass biker types. I wear a helmet, too, and there's no helmet laws in AZ, so the two schools of thought are you're stupid for not wearing one or you're a p***y if you do. So I don't know if it's a Dyna thing or an appearance thing, but either way I don't give a crap. I got the Harley I want and I love it. I don't see many others on the road. I will, however, testify that I had a Sportster and one guy asked my girlfriend if it was her bike! IT seemed like an insult, but it's a pretty damn funny insult when you think about it! 

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RE: Dyna Models are 2nd Class Citizens - 5/16/2007 1:09:33 PM   
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the dyna is a lighter bike than a softail.  hence the performance edge.

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RE: Dyna Models are 2nd Class Citizens - 5/16/2007 1:31:44 PM   
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Dyna's are for the ride and softails are for the looks.  It's a personal matter.  A softail has a cleaner look to it, but it's not a soft ride (ok, softer than a hardtail).  I ride everyday, so I have to take that into consideration.  I ride over 300 miles each way to a couple of rallys every year with some friends.  All of us on dynas or touring bikes are riding, and all of us on softails run support and trailer their bikes.  I guess it speaks for itself.

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RE: Dyna Models are 2nd Class Citizens - 5/16/2007 1:49:18 PM   
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thats another thing that piises me off. some bikers give you that look when you wear a helmet as i do..fugem .
i wear what i want and i do what i want..geez !!

what ever happened to the biker creed.just ride and chill !!! like when i had my sporty.one of my a$$hole neighbors said " i don't know about those dang sportsters"....i do not remember asking his stupid opinion. all he does is get sh$tfaced.then hit the bars. this crap is a real sore topic with me.    btw.my neighbor is a bagger.    seems to be a pattern around here.

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RE: Dyna Models are 2nd Class Citizens - 5/16/2007 1:51:00 PM   
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Just do the track speeds and see where it comes out. 07 Dyna is just a little fast all around.

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RE: Dyna Models are 2nd Class Citizens - 5/16/2007 1:54:52 PM   
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bout ready to go back to my honda 50cc of years ago.LOL..  just kidding ! no way would i get rid of dyna-mite. hey.cool name for a bike. i am a madman.

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RE: Dyna Models are 2nd Class Citizens - 5/16/2007 1:57:10 PM   
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maybe I'm lucky but I only get some good natured joking (least I think it's good natured lol - but now after reading this, maybe there is more to it !).

Seriously tho....I bought mine just cuz..well just cuz.... I like it and I don't care who thinks what.....

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RE: Dyna Models are 2nd Class Citizens - 5/16/2007 2:05:35 PM   
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NiteRider,

I missed the Miracle Ride this year.

Plan on doing the Dream Ride for Special Olympics in August - You going?

Anyways, the group I ride with consists of 2 Road Kings, 3 Ultra Classics, and my Low Rider.

One of the Ultra owners kept asking me if my bike was some type of Sportster or Night Train.  After about 5 times of telling him (over the course of several months) the differences between the Sportster. Dyna, and Softtail lines, I just started saying it's a Spotster model with Night Train options.  He stopped asking after a couple times.

There are a lot ot bike snobs out there.

BTW,I missed the Miracle Ride this year.

Plan on doing the Dream Ride for Special Olympics in August - You going?

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RE: Dyna Models are 2nd Class Citizens - 5/16/2007 2:06:54 PM   
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" Tommorrow may rain...so I'll follow the sun"   i like it !  gotta be a beatles freak like me,eh ?  if you like the beatles. you ok man.

sorry,that has nothing to do with bikes.


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RE: Dyna Models are 2nd Class Citizens - 5/16/2007 3:02:47 PM   
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Haven’t had that second class feeling, but then over the 95inch and Thunderheader it’s hard to hear what’s said behind me. Besides, only I can make my self feel second class, they can’t. To me Dynas are the real Harley look. They are loads of fun to ride, fast and very versatile. They are the Mustang GTs of Harley (yes, there is a Shelby line of Harley too). Every class is different from the others, each has it’s own advantage but with that advantage there is usually a disadvantage. Motor is balanced but less power. It’s faster but less comfortable, it’s got it all but it’s a boat, it’s more nimble in the curves but smaller/less long distance comfort. It’s all in what you are looking for and what you want it to do.

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RE: Dyna Models are 2nd Class Citizens - 5/16/2007 4:13:23 PM   
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Take a look at Arlen Ness' production bikes.  They build their frame based on the dyna.  "A custom builder using exposed shocks!" you say?  Yeah!  Looks great and rides great.  Now I ask you, would Arlen use a second class anything???

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RE: Dyna Models are 2nd Class Citizens - 5/16/2007 5:04:22 PM   
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The typical response I got when I told friends that I bought a Harley was "Tell me you didn't buy a Sportster?"

The second response after they saw it was "What kind of Harley is that?

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RE: Dyna Models are 2nd Class Citizens - 5/16/2007 5:31:18 PM   
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I do hear some say they think the softtail line looks better but I think
the Dyna's look better. I had a choice between a NightTrain and a Street Bob when I got mine. I looked at both for a few days and I just did not care for the looks of
the Night train so I got the Dyna.
It is a matter of personal choice both are fine bikes.
My next Harley will be a Road King (if I get another harley).

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RE: Dyna Models are 2nd Class Citizens - 5/16/2007 5:48:38 PM   
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I like my Dyna a lot.  I've done long rides & short rides and it does it all with comfort and great handling.  It's a do anything bike in my opinion.  2nd class and loving it.

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RE: Dyna Models are 2nd Class Citizens - 5/16/2007 7:12:14 PM   
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2nd class I don't think so. DYNA motors pull harder, handle better and flat out haul azz bar none!!!

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