RE: 110 problems?
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RE: 110 problems? - 9/13/2007 6:41:45 PM
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08CVORK
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Man, If I were you I would be at the dealer every day until they agreed to replace that engine. Don't get mad, stay cool and be factual, and convince the dealer that your engine is trash. Being consistantly there smiling in their face - maybe some bad breath, like eat some limberger cheese. They'll be glad to get you satisfied with a new engine and stay away! Anyhow, you ought to get the engine replaced....there is a lemon law....
Since the leak continues after a repair, it stands to reason the the studs may be pulling out of the crank cases. That's a very good point and very logical. If new parts were used seems unlikely that their QA department missed again...but then....
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RE: 110 problems? - 9/14/2007 3:12:38 AM
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DanB
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My 07 UCSE had some starting issues. Terrible noise when I tried to start it. Kept thinking was due to high compression and perhaps the Power Commander, dealer informed me of some of the starter issues. For about 30 days now there had been parts on order to fix it..but they never came. Finally dealer contacted MOCO and they agreed to replace the starter. Just got the call yesterday from dealer. Says it is fixed and they have test started it periodically all day long yesterday and no issues. I pick it up today just in time for a ride to Hot Springs.
Service manager did say something about how that since this engine is so high compression it takes all the battery can give to start it up. He suggested battery tender be hooked up when bike not in use. Keeping the battery at full capacity he said will help with starter issues.
Any thoughts on a battery tender use?
DanB
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RE: 110 problems? - 9/14/2007 9:30:00 PM
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Bonehead
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Well, I have never been one to flame other forums. If I don't like them, I don't read them. I am also a member of CVOHarley and I have found a wealth of useful info. I also did fork out 32K+ for a CVO and the only time I get a warm and fuzzy feeling is when I just get thru cleaning it. As soon as I hit the starter, I get a lump in the pit of my stomach. It is actually my fault for purchasing the 07 with the new engine, should have waited a year for them to work out bugs. I also own an 07 Heritage 96 twincam and have had absolutely no problems. Motor sound sweet and is tight as a drum. Problems with the 110 motors will generally not show up until around 5k miles due to the nature of the problems. If bike is left stock, I see no way to run that mill for very long without issues. THERE IS TOO MUCH HEAT due to very lean conditions. Heads will warp, oil literally boils in case. JMHO though for what it is worth.
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RE: 110 problems? - 9/15/2007 7:07:28 AM
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08CVORK
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If you have an engine that has warped heads and is actually boiling the oil in the cases, you may find a future in writing for science fiction magazines and you should be advised to get off the motorcycle and call the bomb squad. 'Cause chances are, it's going to explode. I'm wondering if you are joking...?
So rather than 'flame' a forum, you 'flame' someones post. So what's the difference? Opinions are like 'A' holes....
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Keep your cool Detonator, hand the problem back to Harley Davidson and have an attorney contact then about your wishes. One well written letter could make a world of difference. But stay cool, life's too damned short to get all worked up over a bloody motorcycle! The money maybe but not a motorcycle....
< Message edited by 08CVORK -- 9/15/2007 11:47:54 AM >
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RE: 110 problems? - 9/16/2007 10:11:08 AM
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byersmtrco
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Wow!!! Did amf buy Harley again and begin "negotiations" with the uaw?
With all these issues w/the 110's AND the 96's, it sounds like they have serious quality control issues.
It's 1974 all over again !!!! AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH !!!!!!!!!!!!
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RE: 110 problems? - 9/17/2007 5:03:07 AM
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DanB
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Got back from Hot Springs yesterday. I had the starter replaced last week. Started up fine at dealership...home...but got on road and once again..not all the time..but every now and then I get that lump in my throat wondering if this is gonna be the one where all the teeth fall out? It starts...but sure nuf..that clanging comes back every once in a while.
I'll ride a little more and if it continues I'll take it back to dealer and ask "whats next?"..
DanB
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RE: 110 problems? - 9/19/2007 7:28:49 PM
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BartManSr
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bpalmersheim,
Put my name on the list.
I've got a SERK3 with heat issues. I can't even stop for 5 minutes in traffic without the engine light coming on.
I've added a FatCat & Auto Tuner and still no difference.
When I was in Sturgis, I couldn't even make it through town!
Why is it that we don't hear about overheating on Victory, Big Dog, Iron Horse, and other's?
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RE: 110 problems? - 9/19/2007 7:37:16 PM
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wamp
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I dont remember posting it on this page but I raised my tank two inches now my ride stays 20 degrees cooler then the wifes 07 fatboy. I also have an oil cooler, but it made little if any difference.
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RE: 110 problems? - 9/27/2007 2:55:48 PM
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Just thought I'd lay in my "two-bits." My scoot is not the 110, it's a Stage III 95 cu. inch. From what I understand, this engine was one of the big ones back in '03. If you look under the category of "engines" and "softails,"--ENGINE TROUBLES, ANY THOUGHTS? (2/07-3/07)--you'll read about my blight purchasing it new from the dealership.
I've learned a hard lesson! EVERYTIME YOU TAKE IN YOUR BIKE FOR REPAIRS "GET THE RECEIPTS." I've just received the "Judgement" from Small Claims and unfortunately I lost, even though I brought in a witness from the alternate HDdealership stating there was a installation error made installing the performance parts.
ALWAYS, ALWAYS, GET A COPY OF THE SERVICE RECORDS INDICATING "EXACTLY" WHY THE BIKE WENT INTO THE REPAIR SHOP.
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RE: 110 problems? - 9/28/2007 5:14:49 PM
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Rides2007Harley
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quote:
ORIGINAL: detonator
Yea and there clothing is not much better! I purchased the FXRG real nice jacket. I have already sent it back to Harley twice due to zipper malfunction (it broke ) Then I bought A nice screamin eagle jacket you know one of those cool jackets everyone asks you about that molds in your closet thats cool as cool as hell buttttttt the F+ckin ZIPPER broke when I zipped it up of course I had already left the Stealer! W.T.F. I am beginning to wonder if everything from Harley is a piece of SH!T! F^ck it ! Sorry for the potty mouth.
You are having some terrible luck. I bought the really cool Screamin Eagle leather jacket and think it is great. Some of the best venting that I have ever had in a jacket.
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RE: 110 problems? - 9/29/2007 7:07:41 AM
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FLHRSE3
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I bought a FXRG leather last fall and wore it through 3 seasons until it warmed up this spring, I really liked the jacket and had no complaints. Through the warm months I wore a Fox Creek perforated jacket that I also really liked. The other day it was a tad chilly so I dug the FXRG out and the first thing I noticed was what a POS little plastic/nylon zipper was on it, the Fox Creek has nice big brass zippers and was half the price of the HD jacket.
Gregg
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RE: 110 problems? - 10/5/2007 3:55:18 PM
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pittguy
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Man I feel for you guys,from someone that has gone thru the C/S hotline bs,I can relate.Dail 0 first off it seems to help once call goes thru.Once someone finally answers the horn is when things heat up.Why play dumb with these owners???The head gasket issue needs resolved now before the 08 crowd joins in.The lower ends while I agree may read differently when installed,shouldnt be 4 times a .003" spec and called good enough.These are 35000$ bikes and owners you are about to loose.This effect will travel to us 96 peons and so on.The head gasket deal will eventually be remedied,until then frequent dealer visits are youre only answer along with a bucket of soapy water.
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RE: 110 problems? - 10/9/2007 5:16:46 AM
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bogie1
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Does this affect the 110 upgrade kit? (yes)
I bought a 2007 DYNA FXD 96 Cu In. After 1000 miles I had the 110 SE kit installed.
After about 700-1000 miles The front and rear jugs started leaking at the bottom. Dealer replaced O rings and cemented it. I have 3800 on it now with no leaks. I expect it to start leaking again.
The leaks don't bother me as much as the crank run out that is showing up on these 110's.
It can cause the oil pump to go south and there are two documented cases where the motor has siezed up while riding. Fortunatly neither rider was killed or injured. I was really nervous when I ran at the drags last week. I was wondering if the motor was going to lock up at 105 mph.
I am Hoping Harley does a recall on the motor with a new design.
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RE: 110 problems? - 10/10/2007 8:05:52 AM
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bogie1
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I won't mention the name of the track but all I needed was to have a Full Face helmet,drivers licnece, registration and a tethered kill switch.
I didn't have the kill switch so I tied a string around my spark plug wires and the other end to my wrist. Walla!!
I ran a 12.50 @ 105.5
If your bike is stock with slipons stage1, and sert tune, It might be kinda tuff to make it in the 11's.
You would need a 1.50 60' time. I ran a 1.87 60'
For every .1 you drop in 60' you will drop .15 on your 1/4 mile ET.
So if I ran a 1.50 60' then my ET would have dropped to about 11.94 in the 1/4.
Trying to get a 1.50 60' will be a real chore with out a slick and a humungus burnout.
My dyna is light compariabily, Single seat and no accessories.
I would like to know what other folks are running but It doesn't look like many people take them to the drags.
Good luck and let me know what kinda ET you ran.
My Dyno numbers were 92hp and 114 TQ. A mild tune for the 110 motor.
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RE: 110 problems? - 10/16/2007 11:29:13 PM
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Harleypingman
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FWIW: I am not a CVO owner, and I wish I had heard this directly, so take it for what it's worth:
HD has found in a high percentage of bikes that the cylinder liners in the CVO 110 move and that movement is causing oil leaks. HD is trying hard not to issue a recall to deal with the problem; hoping instead to deal with it on a case by case, dealer by dealer basis. The dealer who shared this information with a good friend of mine and HD motorhead told him this "moving cylinder lining/oil leak problem" has occurred in about 12-15% of the 110 CVO bikes sold by the dealership.
I don't know jack about this other than what I related.
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RE: 110 problems? - 10/18/2007 9:20:30 PM
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q2bruiser
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Whether your bike needs a new battery or not, I suggest using one. I've been using them for a long time and they are well worth the money. No battery or starting issues and my batteries last forever.
JKH
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