View Full Version : Super E on a pan?
imboden 09-21-2007, 10:57 AM I'm still of couple of months out I'm sure of it, but soon I think I'll be working on a 51' pan that my dad just gave to me. One of the first things I wanna do is get an s&S super e on the thing. when I was lookin I didn't see any manifolds that would fit a 51. do they make em?
thanks,
pat
powdercoater 09-21-2007, 11:19 AM For the Pan I'm sure you'll need the Super G. All the Pan owners I ride with have the G... don't know the details.
crampfan 09-21-2007, 04:12 PM If you still have the" plumber " type intake you may be SOL. If it has been converted to the O-ring type, S&S has a manifold that will work. I don't think that a "G" would be a good idea unless you are built over 86" I have run a few super E's on pans. I have a old super "B" on mine, and love it!
shooter64 09-21-2007, 08:14 PM You need an E, and I can get you a manifold, they are cheap, I just bought one for my 54 pan project.
imboden 09-23-2007, 01:20 PM are those the same as the shovel manifolds for rubber bands? I think they run like 30 bucks? This thing is gonna be a ton of work, I gotta convert it over to 12v, eventually replace the tins, fix a shifter fork, probly buy a new chain/sprocket. it'll be fun though
here is a picture of it in the late 60's early 70's
http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b353/pimboden/51Pan.jpg
ORIGINAL: shooter64
You need an E, and I can get you a manifold, they are cheap, I just bought one for my 54 pan project.
panz4ever 09-24-2007, 10:14 AM Imboden, let me know if ya want to sell the linkert and air cleaner...
I've put S&S B carbs on several pans, I think the E is just an updtaed B carb. And I agree with crampfan, G carbs are more for big motors; for 74s the E carb will work fine. Requisite tho is that the heads have to be o-ring type or converted.
Nice looking bike..
crampfan 09-24-2007, 04:49 PM the shovel uses a "Y" type manifold and the pan uses a "T" type.
I recently changed my 50 Panhead from a S&S B to a Super E... Its great, Best Thing you can do.. You will have to convert to o ring manifold (mine was already converted) but you will also have to use a extension block and the taller cable brackets to get it to work which is minor. The end results is a motor that starts easier. (I am down to two pre kicks one to start, no throttle when cold, one to start warm).You will also have better throttle response, better idle, smoother running all around. Good Luck !
ScooterHD69 11-15-2007, 02:41 PM Go with the E for sure. The G will just be too much. Been running an E model on my 69 for about 10 years. Takes about 2 seconds to light. Hang on to the original carb also, as you never know when you might want to put everything back stock.
Scooter
sqdealgeorge 01-13-2008, 10:36 AM My 52 has a B S&S 22years now Its great
Da Gumpmeister 02-15-2008, 01:26 AM Old "B" is the new "E"
Old "D" is the new "G"
Use the "E", as the "G" will drown it. "G" is great if you're running over 86" and developing HP and R's
Other than that, update the manifold, and you're good to go. Amer. Iron Mag, Feb 08 issue has a SOOOPER article on tuning the "E" and "G" carbs. Follow that, and you will be more than "in the ballpark" Happy "panning" and enjoy your "tinker"toy. ;)
meatz 02-29-2008, 11:49 AM go with the E for shure and id go with a 72 or 74 main jet and a 29 inter. jet to get you started and get rid of the points and put a mallory unilite distributor in it
keiser 05-12-2008, 12:10 PM ORIGINAL: sqdealgeorge
My 52 has a B S&S 22years now Its great
By any chance do you run with the original wire throttle cable or did you convert to later style? I am trying to use the original but it won't quite open my "B" throttle all the way. It should have enough movement to do it, but the wire seems to only move about 70% of the total movement at the handlebars.
SloRoll 06-04-2008, 03:44 AM I run a Super E on my 49 Pan and it works just fine. Running .71 main and .295 intermediate. I also installed a Sifton Bomb Site to get better atomization of the fuel. A good friend of mine (whoI highly trust in these matters)swears the B model it the cats meow for Panheads.
badinfluence63 06-08-2008, 10:39 PM I ran my 1963 pan/rigid without trouble forever on a zenith bendix. I preferred that because although the Super E has the accelerator pump the bendix had what I thought to be a \\;good old fashioned choke. It created the sequence needed to start the bike. I imagine though the super e accelerator pump can be to an advantage on a kick only? I didn't change mine, no reason to.
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I \\;do run a super e on my 1983 and its a great carb.
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