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Super E on a pan? - 9/21/2007 8:57:35 AM   
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I'm still of couple of months out I'm sure of it, but soon I think I'll be working on a 51' pan that my dad just gave to me.  One of the first things I wanna do is get an s&S super e on the thing.  when I was lookin I didn't see any manifolds that would fit a 51.  do they make em?
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RE: Super E on a pan? - 9/21/2007 9:19:00 AM   
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For the Pan I'm sure you'll need the Super G.  All the Pan owners I ride with have the G... don't know the details.

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RE: Super E on a pan? - 9/21/2007 2:12:54 PM   
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If you still have the" plumber " type intake you may be SOL. If it has been converted to the O-ring type, S&S has a manifold that will work. I don't think that a "G" would be a good idea unless you are built over 86" I have run a few  super E's on pans. I have a old super "B" on mine, and love it!

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RE: Super E on a pan? - 9/21/2007 6:14:22 PM   
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You need an E, and I can get you a manifold, they are cheap, I just bought one for my 54 pan project.

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RE: Super E on a pan? - 9/23/2007 11:20:53 AM   
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are those the same as the shovel manifolds for rubber bands?  I think they run like 30 bucks?  This thing is gonna be a ton of work, I gotta convert it over to 12v, eventually replace the tins, fix a shifter fork, probly buy a new chain/sprocket.  it'll be fun though

here is a picture of it in the late 60's early 70's


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You need an E, and I can get you a manifold, they are cheap, I just bought one for my 54 pan project.


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RE: Super E on a pan? - 9/24/2007 8:14:14 AM   
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Imboden, let me know if ya want to sell the linkert and air cleaner...

I've put S&S B carbs on several pans, I think the E is just an updtaed B carb. And I agree with crampfan, G carbs are more for big motors; for 74s the E carb will work fine. Requisite tho is that the heads have to be o-ring type or converted.

Nice looking bike..

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RE: Super E on a pan? - 9/24/2007 2:49:10 PM   
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the shovel uses a "Y" type manifold and the pan uses a "T" type.

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RE: Super E on a pan? - 11/15/2007 12:36:04 PM   
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I recently changed my 50 Panhead from a S&S B to a Super E... Its great, Best Thing you can do.. You will have to convert to o ring manifold (mine was already converted) but you will also have to use a extension block and the taller cable brackets to get it to work which is minor. The end results is a motor that starts easier. (I am down to two pre kicks one to start, no throttle when cold, one to start warm). You will also have better throttle response, better idle, smoother running all around. Good Luck ! 

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RE: Super E on a pan? - 11/15/2007 12:41:51 PM   
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Go with the E for sure. The G will just be too much. Been running an E model on my 69 for about 10 years. Takes about 2 seconds to light. Hang on to the original carb also, as you never know when you might want to put everything back stock.

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RE: Super E on a pan? - 1/13/2008 8:36:24 AM   
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My 52 has a B S&S 22years now Its great

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RE: Super E on a pan? - 2/14/2008 11:26:42 PM   
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Old "B" is the new "E"
Old "D" is the new "G"
Use the "E", as the "G" will drown it. "G" is great if you're running over 86" and developing HP and R's
Other than that, update the manifold, and you're good to go. Amer. Iron Mag, Feb 08 issue has a SOOOPER article on tuning the "E" and "G" carbs. Follow that, and you will be more than "in the ballpark" Happy "panning" and enjoy your "tinker"toy.  

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RE: Super E on a pan? - 2/29/2008 9:49:37 AM   
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go with the E for shure and id go with a 72 or 74 main jet and a 29 inter. jet to get you started and get rid of the points and put a mallory unilite distributor in it

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RE: Super E on a pan? - 5/12/2008 10:10:36 AM   
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My 52 has a B S&S 22years now Its great


By any chance do you run with the original wire throttle cable or did you convert to later style?  I am trying to use the original but it won't quite open my "B" throttle all the way.  It should have enough movement to do it, but the wire seems to only move about 70% of the total movement at the handlebars.

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RE: Super E on a pan? - 6/4/2008 1:44:56 AM   
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I run a Super E on my 49 Pan and it works just fine. Running .71 main and .295 intermediate. I also installed a Sifton Bomb Site to get better atomization of the fuel. A good friend of mine (who I highly trust in these matters) swears the B model it the cats meow for Panheads.

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RE: Super E on a pan? - 6/8/2008 8:39:17 PM   
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I ran my 1963 pan/rigid without trouble forever on a zenith bendix. I preferred that because although the Super E has the accelerator pump the bendix had what I thought to be a \\;good old fashioned choke. It created the sequence needed to start the bike. I imagine though the super e accelerator pump can be to an advantage on a kick only? I didn''t change mine, no reason to.
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I \\;do run a super e on my 1983 and its a great carb.

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