Just a thread to keep track & discuss each win as the NE Patriots march towards the first undefeated NFL season (including the playoffs) since the '72 Dolphins. Have you seen this team & what they can do? They have absolutely no weaknesses anywhere! They are without a doubt...the greatest team ever assembled on a football field in the NFL...PERIOD. I will agree, they still have a long way to go this season & alot of games left. But if you look at their schedule, they only face 3 tough teams all season (IMO) & Dallas was one of them (who we beat by 21 points![sm=roll.gif]). Next on the list is the Colts, who will give us our biggest test yet but I'm nottoo worried about that game. Then after that will be the Steelers, who we play at home...another 20+ point victory margin predicted.
When this season is over, the Pats will have set numerous amounts of records...most amount of points scored per game in a single season, largest margin of victory points per game, most TD passes per season by a QB, most amounts of points scored per game in the post-season, largest margin of victory points per game in the post season & yes...they will beat the old record set by the '85 Bears for the largest margin of victory points in the Super Bowl! Let's start keeping track now, shall we?[sm=popcorn.gif]...

So far...

38-14 over the Jets
38-14 over the Chargers
38-7 over the Bills
34-13 over the Bengals
34-17 over the Browns
48-27 over the Cowboys

C'mon NE fans...let's here ya? Next to get beaten up on...The Miami Dolphins!;)

I'm onboard with you. This is one of the most talented teams to date...Much better than any of the three Superbowl teams.....However, at the end of the season when everything is clinched, a 16-0 season won't be as important as resting guys and taking care of things for the playoffs.

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Just a thread to keep track & discuss each win as the NE Patriots march towards the first undefeated NFL season (including the playoffs) since the '72 Dolphins. Have you seen this team & what they can do? They have absolutely no weaknesses anywhere! They are without a doubt...the greatest team ever assembled on a football field in the NFL...PERIOD. I will agree, they still have a long way to go this season & alot of games left. But if you look at their schedule, they only face 3 tough teams all season (IMO) & Dallas was one of them (who we beat by 21 points![sm=roll.gif]). Next on the list is the Colts, who will give us our biggest test yet but I'm nottoo worried about that game. Then after that will be the Steelers, who we play at home...another 20+ point victory margin predicted.
When this season is over, the Pats will have set numerous amounts of records...most amount of points scored per game in a single season, largest margin of victory points per game, most TD passes per season by a QB, most amounts of points scored per game in the post-season, largest margin of victory points per game in the post season & yes...they will beat the old record set by the '85 Bears for the largest margin of victory points in the Super Bowl! Let's start keeping track now, shall we?[sm=popcorn.gif]...

So far...

38-14 over the Jets
38-14 over the Chargers
38-7 over the Bills
34-13 over the Bengals
34-17 over the Browns
48-27 over the Cowboys

C'mon NE fans...let's here ya? Next to get beaten up on...The Miami Dolphins!;)


I'll go ahead and play your game.....

The last 4 teams to go 13-0 have all been AFC teams, and all lost their 14th game of the season. The Chiefs, Broncos, Chiefs, and Colts. Coincidence? Not really. 16-0 is simply not going to happen.

The Patriots really havent played anyone good thisyear. The Patriots have played 6 games and only TWO of them were against legitimately good teams. The Chargers, who have not resembled anything remotely close of last years team, and the Cowboys. 1 team with a record over .500, the rest are either .500 or less.

You've played 4 teams who are in the bottom 5 in defense, so I expect you to put up points. The Chicago Bears were much like this year's Cowboys. Both played a horrible game in prime time, both managed to win it, and then played the Patriots the following week.The Patriots won both games.The NFC is simply not that good and it hasnt been in years. That being said, there's no way the Patriots are going undefeated....and I'll even point to the last two years where the Colts have started out 9-0....and they're BETTER on offense then the Patriots.

In fact, the Patriots simply have had an easier schedule then the Colts....so that's why the stats look better for the Patriots. The AFC South is a combined 15-6. The AFC Least is a combined 8-15, with 6 of those wins being by the Patriots.

No weaknesses? Can you say running game? You have yet to play a team who can dish out as well as they can take. The Cowboys didnt even dress their 2nd best WR....The Colts & Steelers are more then capable of not only smacking the Patriots in the mouth, but beating them. The Patriots defense is old, and it shows late in games. The Cowboys could have been in that game if they didnt keep committing stupid penalties.

Sorry pal, but I think the Colts are going to be a lot tougher then you think.....and to overlook them is stupid. We lost several key players and starters....no problem....plug in the backups......lose a key offensive lineman??? no problem!!! plug in a rookie tackle.

The truth is, the Patriots are trying to be the Colts....and while the Patriots offense looks good.....anyone could look good playing the AFC Least and the bargain basement of the AFC North. I mean, the Browns put up

The truth is, the Patriots are trying to be the Colts....and while the Patriots offense looks good.....anyone could look good playing the AFC Least and the bargain basement of the AFC North. I mean, the Browns put up 50+ on the Bengals....yet the Patriots could only score 34???


16-0 is simply not going to happen.
-DevilsReject
Trying to be the Colts??? HUH???[sm=WTFsgign.gif]
I'm not even going to begin to argue with the "book" you justwrote because it'll waste too much time & too much typing while I'm supposed to be working. So in a nutshell, NE has owned the Colts until last year & should have won that game too along with another title. Manning has always had better than average receivers & running backs, but could never get to the big game until last year. NE, however, always had mediocre-to-awful receivers & running backs, but wait...WE HAVE 3 TITLES! So what does that tell you about who the better QB is? The only thing Manning currently has over Brady is the TD pass season record, which will be SMASHED by Tom Brady at the end of this season (currently on pace to throw 50+ TD's this season!).
Running game? Morris has been running extremely well for us & Maroney should be back soon. With receivers like Moss, Stallworth & Welker, I wouldn't be too concerned about our running game if I were you come gameday!
"Colts alot tougher than I think?" How "tough" do you really think your much-different-looking-than-last-year Colts are after only beating teams like the Titans (3-2) by 2 & only beating the Texans for God's sake by 6?:D We're gonna make your Colts look ridiculous come 11/4 right after we get done taking care of the Dolphins & Redskins...can't wait to hear what you have to say then? Maybe "Oh, Manning had to do too many commercials over the last week...if it wasn't for that you would have only beaten us by 14 instead of 34!"[sm=smiley36.gif]

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The truth is, the Patriots are trying to be the Colts....and while the Patriots offense looks good.....anyone could look good playing the AFC Least and the bargain basement of the AFC North. I mean, the Browns put up 50+ on the Bengals....yet the Patriots could only score 34???


16-0 is simply not going to happen.
-DevilsReject
Trying to be the Colts??? HUH???[sm=WTFsgign.gif]
I'm not even going to begin to argue with the "book" you justwrote because it'll waste too much time & too much typing while I'm supposed to be working. So in a nutshell, NE has owned the Colts until last year & should have won that game too along with another title. Manning has always had better than average receivers & running backs, but could never get to the big game until last year. NE, however, always had mediocre-to-awful receivers & running backs, but wait...WE HAVE 3 TITLES! So what does that tell you about who the better QB is? The only thing Manning currently has over Brady is the TD pass season record, which will be SMASHED by Tom Brady at the end of this season (currently on pace to throw 50+ TD's this season!).
Running game? Morris has been running extremely well for us & Maroney should be back soon. With receivers like Moss, Stallworth & Welker, I wouldn't be too concerned about our running game if I were you come gameday!
"Colts alot tougher than I think?" How "tough" do you really think your much-different-looking-than-last-year Colts are after only beating teams like the Titans (3-2) by 2 & only beating the Texans for God's sake by 6?:D We're gonna make your Colts look ridiculous come 11/4 right after we get done taking care of the Dolphins & Redskins...can't wait to hear what you have to say then? Maybe "Oh, Manning had to do too many commercials over the last week...if it wasn't for that you would have only beaten us by 14 instead of 34!"[sm=smiley36.gif]



The Patriots are trying to be the Colts as in they're trying to win by throwing the ball downfield and scoring a ton of points. That's a very favorable comparison to the Colts for the last few years. Personally, I dont see anything wrong with it. In fact, last year the Colts started playing like the Patriots of a few years ago....hard hitting, smart defense, and forcing turnovers.

Owned the Colts until last year.....hmmmm Colts are now 3-0 in the last 3 years vs. the Patriots.....twice in 06, and once in 05. Yes, the Patriots owned the Colts prior to that.....but so did the Steelers for a long time...some teams just seem to have your/my teams number. Case in point, Miami always seems to beat New England.....even when they suck ass... How hard is it to beat the Jets or the Bills or the Browns or the Bengals....not very....as evidenced by their records...

The Colts are ALOT tougher this year then last year.....and the stats dont lie. Not to mention, we're playing with like 5 new starters on defense. It's really sad to see your head swollen this badly, but it will be fun to see it popped.

As for the Brady vs. Manning comparison......you're kidding me right? Just because you win a SB doesnt make you better then another player. Is Dan Marino any less a great QB then Brett Favre or John Elway? I'd think not....but apparently you are one of those people who thinks that because they win a title they're better.

1.) Tom Brady is a great QB, one of the top 5 in the league....no doubt. He's efficient, makes good plays, and for the most part doesnt make stupid decisions. HOWEVER, he's never won the SB on his own. He's never had to carry his team. Sure, he's made great plays, and he's moved his team down field....but at the end of the day....he wasnt the one winning those SB's......his kicker was....

2.) In the 3 SB wins for New England, their defense was ranked in th

[sm=popcorn.gif]Oh man I love the NFL...... Both of you guy's had better just hope and pray My Seahawks don't get there SH*t together or they just might whip your ass come Super Bowl Sunday:D
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It's really sad to see your head swollen this badly, but it will be fun to see it popped...Is Dan Marino any less a great QB then Brett Favre or John Elway?...Tom Brady...he's never won the SB on his own. He's never had to carry his team. Sure, he's made great plays, and he's moved his team down field....but at the end of the day....he wasnt the one winning those SB's......his kicker was....


Man, you've got way too much time on your hands to be typing up that much space & reading that many football team/player stat books! The only thing that will be "popped" on 11/4 is your ridicuolously goofy, Elmer Fudd-like QB by our defense over & over again. Man I can't wait to hear your response after that game!

Last time I checked, Brady was the SB MVP for 2 out of 3 of those games...yah, Vinatieri won 2 of them via his foot but without a pretty good QB to lead the way for the previous 59 1/2 minutes of the game your not going to get a shot a kicking yourself to victory.

DAN MARINOSUCKED!!! He was always an incredibly overated QB because of his good looks & where he played. He was a guy who was always surrounded by pretty good teams, with aHOF coach like Don Shula &players like Mark Clayton, Mark Duper, Zack Thomas, Jason Taylor, McDuffie & Abdul-Jabbar...etc. Even with players like these & a long-azz career of 16 years the guy still couldn't get it done!!! Give me a break...he was a freekin' panzee who was a better actor than a QB for cryin' out loud (and he sucks at announcing too)! With all your football knowledge, don't you know by now...big-time players are only remembered for winning the big-time games..period. History doesn't remember 2nd place. Manning will be doing alot of this pictured below on 11/4...can't wait! Hope your still around to reply to this thread then...

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I dont read all the stat books, I'm just a football nut....

I seem to recall alot of Bears fans talking trash too.....it was funny then...and its funny now. I expect another classic game like the AFC Championship last year. Lots of offense, lots of hard hitting defense..and I wouldnt be surprised at all if it goes down to the wire.

Pretty good QB's.....do you realize that there have been more average to mediocre QB's in the SB then there have been great QB's?????

Coach Bela-Cheat is doing a great job.

do you realize that there have been more average to mediocre QB's in the SB then there have been great QB's?????

That's a ridiculous statment bud...the NFL Championship game showboats more average QB's than great QB's???Think about that statement for a minute??? No, I've never "realized" this because it's completely absurd. Just in the past 10-15 years it's included guys like...

Manning- 1 Ring
Brady- 3 Rings
Roethlisberger- 1 Ring
Elway- 2 Rings
Favre- 1 Ring
Aikman- 3 Rings
Young- 1 Ring
...(notice Marino's name isn't listed here).

I wouldn't exactly call these guys "average to mediocre"???

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do you realize that there have been more average to mediocre QB's in the SB then there have been great QB's?????

That's a ridiculous statment bud...the NFL Championship game showboats more average QB's than great QB's???Think about that statement for a minute??? No, I've never "realized" this because it's completely absurd. Just in the past 10-15 years it's included guys like...

Manning- 1 Ring
Brady- 3 Rings
Roethlisberger- 1 Ring
Elway- 2 Rings
Favre- 1 Ring
Aikman- 3 Rings
Young- 1 Ring
...(notice Marino's name isn't listed here).

I wouldn't exactly call these guys "average to mediocre"???


Yet, that list goes back as far as 1994....which is roughly 14 years ago...and that's only 12 rings out of the last 14-15 SB's....what about the guys who played for the opposing team? Jake Delhomme, Brad Johnson, Trent Dilfer, Drew Bledsoe, Matt Hasselback, Kerry Collins to just name a few...

I doubt very much that you would argue that Dilfer was a great QB. My point is simply that there have been more average QB's playing in the SB then great QB's.....and that7 QB's account forHALFof the SB wins....

Bradshaw = 4 SB rings (in my opinion, the worst QB to win a SB)
Montana =4 SB rings
Aikman = 3 SB rings
Brady = 3 SB rings
Elway = 2 SB rings (played in 5 SB's)
Starr = 2 SB rings
Bob Griese = 2 SB rings


I also have to say this here.....I dont care how great a QB is, if his defense cant make stops and get the opposing team off the field....he's going to lose more often then he's going to win...That's why for a long time the Patriots were simply better then the Colts. The Colts Defense never made stops, let the Patriots have possessions of 7 min or longer per drive......it's basic football 101...

My point is simply that there have been more average QB's playing in the SB then great QB's.....and that7 QB's account forHALFof the SB wins....


...and my point is that's exactly why only the SB winners will be remembered, not guys who played 16 years with nothing to show for it but a few passing records...sooner or later records get broken but ringsare never taken away.
Even it's been extremely fun, I'm not going to argue with you anymore & just let my Pats do the talkin' on the playing field. You'll definately be hearing back from me on 11/4 though...that's for damn sure!;)

Food for thought...how they rank


Scoring
Patriots - 1st
Colts - 4th

Total Offense
Patriots - 1st
Colts - 3rd (despite playing better teams)

Rushing Offense
Colts - 5th
Patriots - 7th

Passing Offense
Patriots - 1st
Colts - 7th

Total Defense
Patriots - 2nd
Colts - 5th

Rushing Defense
Patriots - 5th (Has played 1 team in the top 20 in total rushing YPG (Chargers), and thats only because they've had 400 yards rushing in their last 2 games.)
Colts - 13th

Passing Defense
Colts - 3rd
Patriots - 4th

...Man, you keep pullin' me back in![sm=icon_flaming.gif]:D

More food for thought...and since your Colts have only played 5 games thus far, to be fairI only used the Pats last 5 games played as well.

Combined Colts opponent wins 13
Combined Pats opponent wins 13

Colts avg margin of victory 15.2
Pats avg margin of victory 22.2

Colts avg points scored 32.8
Pats avg points scored 38.4

Should be fun!;)

Just thought you guys would enjoy this reply I posted on another thread. It really belongs here...

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Hate to say this bud, but the greatest team ever assembled was the 89 Niners.....and still is to this day....What the Patriots are currently doing is definitely coming close to that team......but we'll see at the end of the season. You simply crack me up.....because this team isnt dominant. How can you be dominant when you've pretty much played cream puffs? I'm a diehard Colts fan, and you already know this....but I'll use my own team as my point.

'07 Pats Vs. '89 49ers...

Just a few quick analysis'...

Montana threw 26 TD's that year. That's 1.6 per game. Brady already has 21 through 6 games, which is 3.5 avg per game...meaning he's on pace to throw 56 TD's!(Shattering Manning's record by the way)(ADVANTAGE PATS)

Montana threw for 3,521 yds that year. Brady has already thrown for 1771, which is 295.1 avg per game...meaning he's on pace to throw for 4,722 yds this year! (ADVANTAGE PATS)

The 49ers avgeraged 27.6 points per game that year. The Pats have scored 230 points so far, which is 38.3 avg per game. This means they're on pace to score 613 points total this year...which would be 38.3 avg points per game! (ADAVANTAGE PATS)

Rice caught 17 TD's that year. Moss already has 8, which is 1.3 avg per game. This means that Moss is on pace to catch 21 TD's this year! (ADVANTAGE PATS)

Ricehad 1,483 total receiving yards that year, which is 92.6 avg per game. Moss is averaging 101.7 per game. This means he's on pace for a total of 1,627 receiving yards! (ADVANTAGE PATS)

The 49ers gave up a total of 253 points that year to opponents, which is 15.8 avg per game. That Pats have given up 92 points so far, which is 15.3 avg per game. This means their on pace to give up a total of 245.3 points to opponents this year! (ADVANTAGE PATS)

Oh...and the 49ers lost 2 games that year...the Pats won't! (ADVANTAGE PATS)

*Of course these final numbers are based on what should happen & not on what has happened...yet;), but just thought you'd like to see where my Pats are heading in terms of comparing them to your '89 49ers.[sm=proof.gif]

I could go into more detail abouteach team'srunning game, but Craig only rushed for 1,054 that year...averaging only 3.9 yds per carry which isn't at all that difficult to mimic or surpass. Now do I have to run the #'s on the '06 Colts Vs. '07 Pats???...Don't mess with me Boy!;)

Your a JOKE and so is your Cheating Coach!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

:D:D:D...no, THIS guy's a joke!

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Coach Bela-Cheat is doing a great job.

I was waitin' for it! Man, thats funny:D

Latest victim...Miami

7-0

# of TD's until Brady passes Manning's record...22!

See you soonIndi!

Are you seriously bragging about beating Miami? I mean, the way they're playing right now.....even Stanford could beat them....

Hey,

a win is a win is a win...;)

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Hey,

a win is a win is a win...;)








Not when Coach HOODY is cheating.........

Not when Coach HOODY is cheating.........

Every team "cheats" in one way or another...we just happen to get caught. What we did was wrong & embarrassing considering the caliber of this team this year, but wearen't the first team to do it nor will we be the last.

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Not when Coach HOODY is cheating.........

Every team "cheats" in one way or another...we just happen to get caught. What we did was wrong & embarrassing considering the caliber of this team this year, but wearen't the first team to do it nor will we be the last.


You're right,WHY with the talent they have would you friggin cheat and bring shame on a team that (You say) is the greatest team ever assembled.Now if N E wins the big one this year,it will have an * near it and the team will not get full recognition (in some eyes) because of the whole cheating thing and who will know if they done it straight up or if they just learned how to cheat without getting caught. N E is a great team but not the best ever,I think that one goes to the 72 Dolphins.I hope the Cowboys get another shot at them so they can at least have a chance to prove that they better than they showed the last time the met.Brady is a great QB but so is Manning.11/4 can't get here fast enough.Not for nothing but I predict a Colts win on that day.I respect the hell out of your support for your team but some of the words you've said here could be damn hard to swallow if they lose.


Go Cowboys!

I hope the Cowboys get another shot at them so they can at least have a chance to prove that they better than they showed the last time the met

You can put whatever * you want in front of the Pats if they win it all this year...I don't think any Pats fans will care as we all watch that 4th banner being raised at Gillette Stadium next year. Yes, it was wrong & embarrassing as I said & if this would have happened to your team you'd be defending them to the fullest extent as I & all the rest of NE fans have done.
Your Cowboys are a really good team & have come a long way over the past few years, but as your own head coach said, they're "not on the same level with the Pats" by no means. And if they played each other again they'd get SHALACKED like they did the first time by atleast another 21 points or worse. I already compared this year'sPats to the '89 49er's (earlier in this thread...read it) & when I get some free-time I'll do the same with the '72 Dolphins but I guarentee you, the numbers won't be even close to what this NE team has done so far this year.
As far as the Colts, your one of theextremelyfew (other than the die-hard Colts fans themselves that can't accept that the Pats are better than the Colts this year) who thinks that the Colts will beatthe Pats on 11/4. I also can't wait for the game myself because when it's over & the Pats have beat them by atleast 10 points (yup, that's my prediction) I'm going to go back to every member of this thread who has saidthe same thingyour saying & rub our win in each of your faces. Cowboys got a longgggggggg way to go before they start rippin' up the NFL & beating teams by an average of around30 points per game!

GO PATS!!!
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N E is a great team but not the best ever,I think that one goes to the 72 Dolphins.

Well, here's the numbers...;)Dolphins had a little better running game & defense, but QB comparison & power of our offense is a no brainer I think. Would be one hell of a fight!

'07 Pats Vs. ’72 Dolphins...

Just a quick analysis'...

*Earl Morrall threw 11 TD's that year (Based on a 14-game season). That's .78 per game. Brady already has 27 through 7 games, which is 3.85 avg per game...meaning he's on pace to throw 61 TD's!(Shattering Manning's record by the way)(ADVANTAGE PATS)

Morrall threw for 1,360 yds that year, which is 97.1 avg yds per game. Brady has already thrown for 2125 yds, which is 303.5 avg per game...meaning he's on pace to throw for 4,856 yds this year! (ADVANTAGE PATS)

The Dolphins avgeraged 26 points per game that year. The Pats have scored 279 points so far, which is 39.8 avg per game. This means they're on pace to score 637 points total this year...which would be 39.8 avg points per game! (ADAVANTAGE PATS)

Paul Warfield caught 3 TD's that year. Moss already has 10, which is 1.4 avg per game. This means that Moss is on pace to catch 22 TD's this year! (ADVANTAGE PATS)

Warfieldhad 606 total receiving yards that year, which is 50.5 avg per game (only played 12 games). Moss is averaging 104.5 per game. This means he's on pace for a total of 1,672 receiving yards! (ADVANTAGE PATS)

The Dolphins gave up a total of 171 points that year to opponents (based on a 14-game season), which is 12.28 avg per game. That Pats have given up 120 points so far, which is 17.1 avg per game. This means their on pace to give up a total of 273.9 points to opponents this year! (ADVANTAGE DOLPHINS)

Larry Csonka rushed for 1117 yards that year...averaging 5.2 yds per carry with 6 TD’s. Sammy Morris is on pace to rush for 877.2 yards this year, currently averaging 4.5 yds per carry with already 3 TD’s & on pace to score 6 TD’s as well. (ADVANTAGE DOLPHINS)

*Earl Morrall played more games than Griese & DelGaizo that year (14 vs. 6 for Griese & 4 for DelGaizo) & had much better numbers than both of them as well so I used him to compare to Tom Brady.

*Paul Warfield (12) played 1 game less than Howard Twilley (13), but caught more catches for more yards than any of the other Dolphin receivers so I used to compare to Randy Moss.

*Of course these final numbers are based on what should happen & not on what has happened...yet, but just thought you'd like to see where my Pats are heading in terms of comparing them to your '72 Dolphins.

I'm a die hard Cowboy fan but I'm also smart enough to know that this years Pat team plays at a lot higher level than the Cowboys.I do believe that Brady is the best QB in the NFL right now but Manning runs a VERY close second which really pisses me off cause I have no use for the Colts but I can't ignore a great talent.I was just trying to make the point that the Cowboys are a much better team than the showed the last time they played the Pats.I'm no dumb ass!I know the Cowboys probably wont win the super bowl because of the strong AFC.I truly believe that it will be the Colts or the Pats that will take it all.IMHO,the 2 teams are to good for me to go out on a limb and say which one of those 2 teams it will be.

As fare as the Pats being better than the 72 Dolphins,35 year old Stats mean nothing to me because of how much the game has changed and the caliber of the players today are so much better.I'm just saying that they went undefeated in 72 and the Pats haven't done that yet.If the Pats or the Colts go undefeated this year I'll be the first to congratulate You or a Colts fan.

I'll leave it alone now and let you and Reject slug it out till the Cowboys are 15-1 :eek: :D



Go Cowboys!

I think that there will be a huge upset this year in the SB. Both of those teams are going to looking so hard at each other that when one of them wins the AFC title they will over look the NFC team in the SB.

You can bet on one thing.I'm a Pats fan today when they play the Skins.

"We’ll probably be the biggest underdog in the history of sports," coach Joe Gibbs said Monday. "Has anything held up against them? Do you have a game plan that will work against them? If you do, leave it here. Because I don’t think anybody else has got one right now. We’re going to struggle hard." Joe Gibbs Tues Oct 23

Guess he was right

We’re going to struggle hard." Joe Gibbs Tues Oct 23


Yup...I'd say 52-7 is considered to be "struggling hard"![sm=icon_rofl.gif]

YOU NEXT INDI!!!...

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You can bet on one thing.I'm a Pats fan today when they play the Skins.


Looking forward to Nov 18th are we???

I thought there was more to do out east than here??? You guys are insane with the sports crap....take a breathe...By the way it is INDY..I remember pre Superbowl all these stats and crap hereon how the Bears would prolly win...It don't matter, it is just a regular season game....whoever wins was best that day..You all crack me up, must have ulcers and crazy stress levels on the fixation on the sports you have. Colts fans here...well we do not spit on, cuss out, threaten opposing teams and/or fans as they come into the building, do not trash the city upon winning or losing...Honestly..not surprised if they win, not surprised if they lose. IT IS FUN...I ain't getting any of the money they get...do not bet on the games. Good luck I guess, nothing you say or do can have any affect on the outcome of the game........GO COLTS... Either way I ain't losin any sleep;)Anyway, you see no Colts fans gettin all "CRAZY" or, cocky more the word...Just hopin for a good game...entertainment;)ORIGINAL: FXDC Rider

We’re going to struggle hard." Joe Gibbs Tues Oct 23


Yup...I'd say 52-7 is considered to be "struggling hard"![sm=icon_rofl.gif]

YOU NEXT INDI!!!...

Undefeated,,,,,,you guys sure??????
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Yep, pretty sure

I'm sure!

the season is not over, and this will likely be named the official humble pie thread...

YOU NEXT INDI!!!...

C-Ya Indi![sm=owned.gif]
9 Down...7 more to go!
Next up...Buffalo
Oh, and16 more TD passes to go until Manning's record is broken!

GO PATS!!!

Ok,
10Down...6 more to go!
Next up...Philly
Oh, and11 more TD passes to go until Manning's record is broken!

GO PATS!!![/quote]

oooops..That didn't take long

They did it again. Eagles gave them a good run for their money, but Pat's pulled through when they had to.

They did a good job coivering Moss last night. That offensive pass interference call was such bull.

Wwhheewww...close one! Dodged a bullet there! Thank God Philly doesn't know how to run the clock out in the final minutes of a game! LOL!

Ok,
11Down...5 more to go!
Next up...Baltimore
Oh, and10 more TD passes to go until Manning's record is broken!

GO PATS!!!

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That offensive pass interference call was such bull.




Almost as much bull as Gaffney making that TD catch in the back of the endzone INBOUNDS. ;)

ORIGINAL: bcox

ORIGINAL: oldhippie



That offensive pass interference call was such bull.




Almost as much bull as Gaffney making that TD catch in the back of the endzone INBOUNDS. ;)


The Gaffney catch was admittedly close and questionable. Why wasn't it challenged?

The offensive interference call was over officiating in my opinion. I know everone has one.. that's mine.

Ho Hum...Hum Ho.... this is incredible that the Patriots are this good!

Wwhheewww...another close one! Dodged an even BIGGER BULLET there!Man was Brady cool in that pocket with all that heavy pressure...he'sthe best ever...period!

Ok,
12Down...4 more to go!

Next up...Pittsburgh!

Oh, and8 more TD passes to go until Manning's record is broken!

GO PATS!!!

Is it me or do the Pats not look as sharp as they were early in the season? They seemed to have trouble with Philly and Baltimore which are two of the worst teams in the NFL. The ravens very bad offense out gained the Pats by about 50 yards. Dont get me wrong a win is a win. I wonder if the pats peaked too early in the season. I will be interested to see the game against Pit. I think this could be another close game.

ORIGINAL: wbogley

Is it me or do the Pats not look as sharp as they were early in the season? They seemed to have trouble with Philly and Baltimore which are two of the worst teams in the NFL. The ravens very bad offense out gained the Pats by about 50 yards. Dont get me wrong a win is a win. I wonder if the pats peaked too early in the season. I will be interested to see the game against Pit. I think this could be another close game.











No it's not you...... There Big D is going to blow it for them, Just wait and see [sm=popcorn.gif]

A Pats win is almost like the Superbowl for every team. All the teams are balls-to-the-wall to beat them, the coaches all stay up nights looking for a way to beat them. and they're all good teams. The Pats aren't perfect, they're human and fallible. On every given day with 2 pro teams anything can happen.

Kinda' like the Red-Sox, ...on any given day they're capable of sucking big time, even when they are the best team in baseball.

I hope someone saw the game against the Ravens. You can't beat winning in the last 47 seconds of a game. I do admit that the Ravens did put up a great fight till the last second, with the 60 yard pass to the 3 yard line. I'm so proud of my team...GO PATS!

Not a Patsie fan but till they lose you got to tip your hat to them.

But wait...

Anthony Smith (Yeah, WHO???) guaranteed a Steelers Victory.

http://www.nytimes.com/2007/12/06/sports/06nfl.html?ref=sports

ORIGINAL: nancykc121

I hope someone saw the game against the Ravens. You can't beat winning in the last 47 seconds of a game. I do admit that the Ravens did put up a great fight till the last second, with the 60 yard pass to the 3 yard line. I'm so proud of my team...GO PATS!


I saw it. I also saw Brady get sacked for a two yard loss on 4th and 1 that would have ended the game and gave the Pats their first loss. Luckly the raven coach called a time out just as the play was ran.

Wow...Pit got RIPPED!!! It looks like the Pats are going to run the table now. They really played well, 400 yds and 4 TDs by brady.

Anyone wants to take a stab at the score against the Jets next week...:D At least 50 points by the Pats, and Brady will break the TD record...

I hope they lose to the Dolphins, wouldn't that be ironic?

Pats 20
Jets 10

Ho hum..

next

I use to have great respect for the Pats even though I am not a Pat supporter. They have lots of talent on both sides of the ball and play great team football. However this years performance, and I point the finger at the coach mostly has made me lose all respect for the team.

First the cheating, not only did they get caught cheating again, they were warned before the season started not to do it again. I know the Pats fans say everyone does it, but do they? What other team has been caught red handed in modern football history? Next you say what difference does it make? With the narrow margin of past victories the Pats normally have, knowing just one defensive coverage assignment before the play could change the whole outcome of a game.

Secondly running up the score on other teams. That shows little respect for your opponent. Playing your first string players including the QB in the 4th quarter with a 35 point lead is simply stupid by any accord. Calling plays that are designed to go out of bounds and stop the clock so you can have time to pad your lead does nothing but feed resentment in the opposing players. One missed blocking assignment and you could lose your QB for the year due to an enraged defensive player.

I have a feeling the Pat coach's actions will come back to bite him before all is said and done. Not sure whether he is trying to show the world he is so good that he can win even without cheating or what, but his decisions will be the undoing of the Pats this year in my opinion. We will see his actions against the 1-13 Dolphins next week, will he sit his star players most of the game to minimise the risk of injury leading into the playoffs, or will he continue his ways and show us how many points they can score against an inferior team?

Pat's fan get ready for a disappointing season. You need a man for a coach, not an upset child.

Another Texas or Pittsburgh fan whining about cheating.

uh didn't they get caught cheating against the Jets?


F them and the Sox too!!!

ORIGINAL: 2003FLHPI

uh didn't they get caught cheating against the Jets?


F them and the Sox too!!!



nice

ORIGINAL: smokeygold

Another Texas or Pittsburgh fan whining about cheating.


Another Pat fan trying to make like cheating doesn't matter. Your team cheats, got caught so accept it.

Oh boy another win!:D

A man in Topeka , Kansas decided to write a book about Churches located around the country. He started by flying to San Francisco and started working east from there.

Going to a very large church, he began taking photographs and making notes. He spotted a golden telephone on the vestibule wall and was intrigued with a sign, which read: "Calls are $10,000 a minute."

Seeking out the pastor he asked about the phone and the sign. The pastor answered that this golden phone is, in fact, a direct line to heaven and if he pays the price he can talk directly to God.

The man thanked the pastor and continued on his way. As he continued to visit churches in Seattle , Dallas, St. Louis, Chicago, Milwaukee, and around the United States, he found more phones, with the same sign, and the same answer from each pastor.

Finally, he arrived in Massachusetts. Upon entering a church in Boston, MA, Behold - he saw the usual golden telephone. But This time, the sign read:
"Calls are 35 cents."

Fascinated, he asked to talk to the pastor, "Reverend, I have been in cities all across the country and in each church I have found this golden telephone and have been told it is a direct line to Heaven and that I could talk to God, but in the other churches the cost was $10,000 a minute. Your sign read s only 35 cents a call. Why?"


The pastor, smiling benignly, replied, "Son, you're in Boston, Massachusetts, home of the Boston Red Sox and the New England Patriots.
You're in God's Country now, It's a local call."

American by Birth - A Red Sox & Patriots Fan by the Grace of God


GO PATS!

Oh YEAH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Sweet 16 and 0!!!

Life is good! Maybe Brady can make the snow go away?!

It's a damn shame it's got an *(astric) beside it.Bellapuke fu*ked his fans (and his team)!!!Brady is a damn miracle but bellapuck can go to hell.

Yeah, it's a shame.... you'd think they were all on steroids.

Congrats Pats fans!!

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ORIGINAL: bcox

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BEGINNING OF RANT

WTF is it with all these asterisks? There ain't no one putting an asterisk any where except the NY Post and no one with half a brain reads that rag anyways! Putting an asterisk next to anything about the Patriots this season will only signify the best team EVER!

About the cheating: since they weren't accessing the taping during the game, it is beyond me why it is ok to tape from the upper decks or end zone and not the side lines - any good cell phone or walkie talkie and a good set of binoculars has the same result. And they all have scouts all over the place, so yeah, they all do it. So Bellicheck misinterpreted the rules in the first game of the season. And it wasn't just him that supposedly was 'warned', it was more like it was hidden away in a briefing to 'inform' all teams of a change that had been ok in previous years that now wasn't.

And Bellicheck didn't bitch or moan or complain, he just handed over the tapes and met all other NFL requests, and paid the fine. And there was NO EVIDENCE that any game was ever effected, and don't think they didn't investigate fully. Just 'cuz the NFL the next week caved to all the bitching of other teams and sportswriters/critics, who have never played a down in their life, to come up with the sanctions just tells me it's all a bunch of political crap. And who turned Bellicheck in after the game? His ex assistant sour grape - now head coach - that was class! He could've just as easily brought it to the attention of the refs during the game and had it stopped and penalized the Pats then and there. But he didn't - what's with that? And then he went and cheated himself - yeah, just wait for the end of the season when the sh*t hits the NY fan(s), but it'll probably get reported on page 59 in small print since it's NY!

What a bunch of pissant poor losers on this forum (with a few class act non-Pats fan exceptions). And complaining about running the score up makes NO sense - it's up to the opposing team to stop the scoring. If they can't, then so be it. If that made any sense the NFL would have a rule like if a team was leading by like 35 points in the 3rd quarter they'd call the game. No sense to that. If a team stopped using their first string every time they got a decent lead, they might never know what it took to play full out all 60 minutes - and didn't that experience come in handy in a few games later in the season for the Patriots to have players that could go all out for 60 minutes? That was a lesson they learned last year against the Colts in the Playoffs. If it was little league, well ok I'd agree, but this is professional sports - they are paid big bucks to play and play the whole game unless their wimpy coach wants to take 'em out to 'protect' them or 'rest' them like the Colts did last night - what a bunch of wussies! As Bill Parcells said 'There aren't any meaningless games that we play in."

END OF RANT.
Have a Happy New Year Everyone!

I'm buying you coffee and pie at the Peterborogh Diner in the Spring!

Well said.

hold on, only 8 or so more weeks!!

You're on hippie!

Maybe 8 weeks for you, but more like 16 for me up here on a back road in the hills @1100' - we get a serious mud season March into April And then there's always that surprise early May snowstorm -Brrr. We get three seasons up here - Winter, Mud and Black Fly! And I know, you're only like 20 miles away - LOL! Guess we could always go mud bogging!

And jeez, for an old hippie ya look pretty young and clean shaven! Just wish I still had hair!

Enjoy the New Year - may it bring you health, happiness and good riding weather!
Chip

While we wait out the winter we can watch the Celtics, they seem to be having a pretty good season too!

Glitzy win by the Celtics
They beat Lakers, finish 4-0 on trip




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LOS ANGELES - The Lakers' Phil Jackson will pass late Celtics legend Red Auerbach on the all-time coaching wins list. But it didn't happen on the Celtics' watch.


The Celtics completed their four-game Western road trip undefeated with a 110-91 victory over the Lakers last night at Staples Center. Boston mproved to an NBA-best 26-3, and has won eight straight road games and six straight overall. Jackson remained tied with Auerbach with 938 career wins, seventh in NBA history. The Celtics won at Sacramento, Seattle, Utah, and the Lakers during the trip. Boston is now 12-2 away from TD Banknorth Garden and is 8-0 against the Western Conference.[/align][/align][/align][/align]Paul Pierce had 33 points to lead the way for Boston, which also got 22 points and 12 rebounds from Kevin Garnett. Ray Allen added 19 points. "Going 4-0was our goal," said Celtics coach Doc Rivers. "We rarely talk about more than one game at a time. But before we left, I said, 'Guys, let's try and go 4-0.' I think every coach says that. But this is great."[/align][/align]

Unbeaten regular season lifts Belichick to AP Coach of Year honor

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Oh yeah ! Guess the experts know a thing or two! A well deserved honor and about time he got recognized for some truly outstanding accomplishments.

bump...
since this is the "official" thread...
just sayin....

Yep.. we're not a lot of happy campers here in New England.

Congrats to the Giants, they were the better team tonight. Pats just couldn't do what they been doing all year long, protect Brady and give him time to throw the ball. Ditto on the defense, Giant's played well and the Pats gave them lots of yards that all season long they denied any other team.

So, Congrats NY Giants.

Just go to show, the Pats were human after all.

The mods need to move this thread to the humor section.

What a HUGE Loss for the Pats. They have got to be the biggest bust in NFL history. What it worse is they are one of the oldest teams in the NFL. Moss is a free agent and It is unclear if they can afford to resign him...you can bet they take a step backword next year.

ORIGINAL: oldhippie


Yep.. we're not a lot of happy campers here in New England.

Congrats to the Giants, they were the better team tonight. Pats just couldn't do what they been doing all year long, protect Brady and give him time to throw the ball. Ditto on the defense, Giant's played well and the Pats gave them lots of yards that all season long they denied any other team.

So, Congrats NY Giants.

Just go to show, the Pats were human after all.


Cudos for giving the Giants a congratulation. I notice most of the Pat fans haven't made it by the forum tonight.

The Pats seemed too over-confident, Brady looked as though he wasn't even interested in the game until the 4th quarter. I'm also glad the game wasn't decided by the refs, only one significant penalty and it was obvious interference in the endzone.

The Giant offensive and defensive lines just whooped the Pats, plain and simple. The front four kept pressure on Brady and turned him into the average quarterback that he is. Any NFL QB could score 50 TD in a season with the protection he has had all year long.

It was like the Pats offensive line must have started partying earlier that day and didn't realize the actually HAD to play the game. Giants were penetrating that line at will.

It was a poor outing for the Pats.

Saying that is not to take away from the Giants, they played their asses off on both offense and defense. When Manning came back and made that 35 yard pass in the last minutes it was over. Pat's defensive backfield must have been partying with the offensive line.

Football history, that's for sure.

Nothing is forever

Karma is a BITCH!!

ORIGINAL: 04RoadKing

ORIGINAL: wbogley

Is it me or do the Pats not look as sharp as they were early in the season? They seemed to have trouble with Philly and Baltimore which are two of the worst teams in the NFL. The ravens very bad offense out gained the Pats by about 50 yards. Dont get me wrong a win is a win. I wonder if the pats peaked too early in the season. I will be interested to see the game against Pit. I think this could be another close game.











No it's not you...... There Big D is going to blow it for them, Just wait and see [sm=popcorn.gif]









I told you so.........Way to go GIANTS..........................

Yep.. we're not a lot of happy campers here in New England.

Congrats to the Giants, they were the better team tonight. Pats just couldn't do what they been doing all year long, protect Brady and give him time to throw the ball. Ditto on the defense, Giant's played well and the Pats gave them lots of yards that all season long they denied any other team.

So, Congrats NY Giants.

Just go to show, the Pats were human after all.

Yup...gotta give the Giants credit, they played an incredible game & we didn't. Still can't figure out how Manning avoided that 3rd & 5 sack before completing that 32 yrd pass???!!! That was the killer right there! Well, as they say "any given Sunday" I guess, right? Congrats Giants...you deserved it.

And THAT is why they play the game...

Hey FXDC - If you had to choose, would you rather have...

A - The perfect 16 - 0 season with the new benchmark in history and lose the big game

OR

B - Win the super bowl but ina fewyears, not manywill remember who won SB XLII

Hey FXDC - If you had to choose, would you rather have...

A - The perfect 16 - 0 season with the new benchmark in history and lose the big game

OR

B - Win the super bowl but ina fewyears, not manywill remember who won SB XLII



Not sure what you mean in part B? The sentence doesn't make any sense? You ALWAYS want the ring at the end of the season, whether your 18-0 or 8-8! What we did this year was still special though, even it if didn't end the way we wanted it to. I can think of 30 other teams who wished they were still playing this past Sunday!

You're right, the ring is always what they strive for come the start of the season. But an undefeated (regular)season??? That has only happened 1 other time. The SB has been won 41 other times. N.E. ishalf of an elite group of 2. Having an undefeated season... I believe that task is a little more un-obtainable than winning the big game.

ORIGINAL: Baeseman1

You're right, the ring is always what they strive for come the start of the season. But an undefeated (regular)season??? That has only happened 1 other time. The SB has been won 41 other times. N.E. ishalf of an elite group of 2. Having an undefeated season... I believe that task is a little more un-obtainable than winning the big game.









Oh my gosh!!!!! You have got to be kidding!!!!!!An undefeated regular season don't mean Sh*t if you don't win the last game of the post season.

An undefeated regular season don't mean Sh*t if you don't win the last game of the post season.

I agree 110%...never said I didn't. All I'm saying is that I'm still proud of what they accomplished during the regular season. It IS all about the ring though...absolutely!

ORIGINAL: FXDC Rider

An undefeated regular season don't mean Sh*t if you don't win the last game of the post season.

I agree 110%...never said I didn't. All I'm saying is that I'm still proud of what they accomplished during the regular season. It IS all about the ring though...absolutely!


I also agree! But it will be years, if ever, we see another team go 18 straight wins. I personally would have rather had won the SB than have a perfect season.

They'll be back...

We've come back from crushing losses before ('06 AFC Championship) only to make it to the Super Bowl the following year! This team knows how to deal with negativity & defeat...they'll be back.

ORIGINAL: FXDC Rider

They'll be back...

We've come back from crushing losses before ('06 AFC Championship) only to make it to the Super Bowl the following year! This team knows how to deal with negativity & defeat...they'll be back.


Yep they sure do. The coach is missing in action and Brady and Moss have pulled out of the Pro Bowl.

Howie Long:, "with the Manning's having back to back Super Bowl MVPs, you have to assume that their camp in Mississsippi will be sold out this summer."