Shift Shaft and Heel Toe Shifter Problems
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Shift Shaft and Heel Toe Shifter Problems - 11/14/2007 2:02:13 PM
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JEROMY73
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In the past two months we have replaced about 10 heel-toe shifters and shift shafts that have stripped on a variety of touring models. I was wondering if any other dealerships or private owners have seen this same problem. We keep getting more and more every few days. I haven't heard anything from tech service yet about this.
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RE: Shift Shaft and Heel Toe Shifter Problems - 11/14/2007 2:09:22 PM
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myzen
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I had to have mine repaired, twice.
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RE: Shift Shaft and Heel Toe Shifter Problems - 11/14/2007 2:33:04 PM
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Freewilly
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Thought I was the only one with this problem. It was always the toe shifter. Finally gave up and removed the heel shifter and moved the toe out on the shaft. Takes some geeting used to after using the heel for many years.
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RE: Shift Shaft and Heel Toe Shifter Problems - 2/16/2008 4:57:04 PM
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bike4mike
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Count me in, been there done that, twice in fact. Of course it only happens when you are at least 200 miles from home. Gotta lov' the downshift .. oh #%$&
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RE: Shift Shaft and Heel Toe Shifter Problems - 2/17/2008 3:27:33 PM
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1FLTRI4ME
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Could it be that the bolts are working loose?
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RE: Shift Shaft and Heel Toe Shifter Problems - 2/17/2008 4:12:58 PM
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Hog Heaven
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Any year in particular?
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RE: Shift Shaft and Heel Toe Shifter Problems - 2/18/2008 5:12:06 AM
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badwhine
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Seems to be a issue with 07's and 08's.
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RE: Shift Shaft and Heel Toe Shifter Problems - 2/20/2008 4:56:52 PM
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DGlide04
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If you have the room, try this from Dewey's:
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I have one on my Dyna with forwards and love it. Well made. I don't know if it will fit a bagger though.
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RE: Shift Shaft and Heel Toe Shifter Problems - 2/20/2008 5:34:08 PM
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knownman
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I found that problem on a chopper with a hard shifting Revtech 6 speed. Turns out that the forward controls were made from a low grade aluminum alloy. It didn't help that the Revtech is a bitch to get into neutral but I'm not surprised that this would happen with the newer HD's. Try using a little red loctite when tightening down the socket head cap screw. Just make sure you have it positioned properly first as this is permanant strength and you may need to use some heat to remove them if you ever need to again. Not sure what the torque is for that screw but it should be in the manual?
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RE: Shift Shaft and Heel Toe Shifter Problems - 2/23/2008 5:52:55 AM
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miacycles
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Try this: get a good grade eight socket head screw use red loc-tite on it, use loc-tite stud and bearing mount on the shaft. When you tighten it down make sure that the space is not bottoming out and stopping it from getting a good purchase on the shaft. This worked for us in all but one case. The guy was 275+ and very heavy footed on the shifter.
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RE: Shift Shaft and Heel Toe Shifter Problems - 2/23/2008 7:04:34 AM
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lonewatie
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Can you post a pic with this on your dyna? thanks
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ORIGINAL: DGlide04
If you have the room, try this from Dewey's:
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I have one on my Dyna with forwards and love it. Well made. I don't know if it will fit a bagger though.
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RE: Shift Shaft and Heel Toe Shifter Problems - 2/24/2008 12:04:00 AM
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WildBill2566
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quote:
ORIGINAL: knownman
I found that problem on a chopper with a hard shifting Revtech 6 speed. Turns out that the forward controls were made from a low grade aluminum alloy. It didn't help that the Revtech is a bitch to get into neutral but I'm not surprised that this would happen with the newer HD's. Try using a little red loctite when tightening down the socket head cap screw. Just make sure you have it positioned properly first as this is permanant strength and you may need to use some heat to remove them if you ever need to again. Not sure what the torque is for that screw but it should be in the manual?
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Do not I repeat not use red loctite. It has very few applications on a motorcycle and this isnt one of them. Blue loctite will hold fine when torqued to the correct specs, but will allow removal to grease the shaft every two years or so. The most important thing to do is fix it before it becomes a problem. Remove the bolt, loctite it and torque it back down before it works loose, because once it works loose and slightly rounds the spline toothing it will be harder to sort out.
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RE: Shift Shaft and Heel Toe Shifter Problems - 2/26/2008 3:44:19 PM
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miacycles
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It is OK to use red loc-tite in the stock shifter as it is not aluminum, on aluminum use blue. Go to the Loc-tite site they have a lot of info as to what to use depending on bolt size and type of duty etc.
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RE: Shift Shaft and Heel Toe Shifter Problems - 2/27/2008 9:20:27 AM
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WildBill2566
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Good luck getting it apart.
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RE: Shift Shaft and Heel Toe Shifter Problems - 2/27/2008 2:48:12 PM
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gunnert
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My 99 Road King stripped the splines at the transmission two years ago. The replacement was not a tight fit. I closed it up in a vice a little before installing new one. I had to lightly tap it on.
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RE: Shift Shaft and Heel Toe Shifter Problems - 3/4/2008 6:20:20 PM
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knownman
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Wild Bill, Notice I said use only a little red loctite. It is designed to be used for this application. If however you are tightening a smaller screw/bolt or with dissimilar metals, then it would not be acceptable.
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RE: Shift Shaft and Heel Toe Shifter Problems - 3/4/2008 6:34:08 PM
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jkoch06ultra
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2 times on my 06 Ultra.
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RE: Shift Shaft and Heel Toe Shifter Problems - 5/9/2008 9:11:03 AM
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Round Man
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quote:
ORIGINAL: gunnert
My 99 Road King stripped the splines at the transmission two years ago. The replacement was not a tight fit. I closed it up in a vice a little before installing new one. I had to lightly tap it on.
Mine Too,, Just happened this weekend,,Made for a Interesting trip home!!!
Local wrench said its about a $600 job out the door,,,,,, does that sound about right???
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Round Man
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