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ORIGINAL: texas steve

For a "Tiger" fan your pretty smart!!   I live in Houston and have many freinds who went to LSU, and have been at several of the tailgate parties!!  You guys know how to party!!!

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ORIGINAL: PEZ

Guys

I got asked by a PM to help out--and Im always happy to help

The tweeters will get paralleled in. So--the positive wire from the radio goes into the front speaker, and "y" off to the positive input of the tweeters x-over. The positive output of the crossover will then go to the positive in on the tweeter--do the same for the negative and your all set

The Crossover divides the frequencies of the tweeters from the "mids" so the overall load stays correct. You will be fine if 4 ohm tweets are used.

I have also had guys use Memphis tweets in this config with great results as well

Hope this helps--any other questions, and please email me at info@hogtunes.com

PEZ

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ORIGINAL: texas steve

Pez,  I know your good at what you do because a lot of people buy your product.    I used to do a lot in electronics but it was many years ago, so I have to ask a question;.

From my memory (whats left of it) I recall the laws of resistance and if wired in parallel you have (s1Xs2 / s1+s2)   So if I have the main speaker at 2 ohms and the tweeter at 4 ohms I get
2X4/2+4  and that =1.3 ohms.  If I'm doing it wrong please let me know.   If that is the case our HD/HK is looking for 2 ohms, therefore it will be really pushing the output transistors.   

I was thinking if I use a 1 ohm resistor ( perhaps 10 watt, as I believe you should use 10 watts per every 100W of power) across the positive and negative of the each ( L R) main speaker.  Would this work?

Thanks for all your help, and great products.

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ORIGINAL: iclick

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ORIGINAL: texas steve

Pez,  I know your good at what you do because a lot of people buy your product.    I used to do a lot in electronics but it was many years ago, so I have to ask a question;.

From my memory (whats left of it) I recall the laws of resistance and if wired in parallel you have (s1Xs2 / s1+s2)   So if I have the main speaker at 2 ohms and the tweeter at 4 ohms I get
2X4/2+4  and that =1.3 ohms.  If I'm doing it wrong please let me know.   If that is the case our HD/HK is looking for 2 ohms, therefore it will be really pushing the output transistors.   

I was thinking if I use a 1 ohm resistor ( perhaps 10 watt, as I believe you should use 10 watts per every 100W of power) across the positive and negative of the each ( L R) main speaker.  Would this work?

Thanks for all your help, and great products.

This worries me too, and I eagerly await a clarification.  If Pez says it will work reliably, I believe it.  Now, I need to research these "Memphis tweets," and looking at them on their site makes me think the all-black design would look better than the Polk tweeters from a visual standpoint.  The cost seems to be about the same, so what is best for this application, the soft-dome, aluminum-dome, or power-reference type?  The last is considerably cheaper than the first two, $60 vs. $90.

Edit:  The aluminum-dome tweeters are on Ebay for $65 w/shipping:  http://tinyurl.com/2d62w6

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ORIGINAL: texas steve

Here is the reply from another speaker specilist and it matches what PEZ replied to me;
 
"When the tweeter with is crossover is wired in parallel with the existing speaker the amp will basically only see the impedance of the original speaker below the cut-off of the tweeter. Above that cut-off frequency the amp will see the tweeter in parallel with the Harley speaker. However, in all likelihood that speaker is a cone with a voice coil that has some inductance so its impedance is actually rising in this range anyway, which means paralleling the tweeter will likely not cause a real drop in the load to below 2 ohms, so all should be good."
 
So no problem!!

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ORIGINAL: SGLarry

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ORIGINAL: XfasteddieX

here is the equasion for figuring ohms or resistance in series 2+4=6 ohm load

in parallel 1 devided 2 =.5   1 devided by 4 =.25  so  .25+.5 =.75 then devide 1 by .75 =1.33 ohms

so if you use a 2 & 4 ohm speaker in parallel your load should be 1.33 ohms

if you use  a 4 ohm & 4 ohm in parallel cut 4 in half so so it will be 2 ohms

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ORIGINAL: XfasteddieX

here is the equasion for figuring ohms or resistance in series 2+4=6 ohm load

in parallel 1 devided 2 =.5   1 devided by 4 =.25  so  .25+.5 =.75 then devide 1 by .75 =1.33 ohms

so if you use a 2 & 4 ohm speaker in parallel your load should be 1.33 ohms

if you use  a 4 ohm & 4 ohm in parallel cut 4 in half so so it will be 2 ohms

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ORIGINAL: iclick

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ORIGINAL: XfasteddieX

here is the equasion for figuring ohms or resistance in series 2+4=6 ohm load

in parallel 1 devided 2 =.5   1 devided by 4 =.25  so  .25+.5 =.75 then devide 1 by .75 =1.33 ohms

so if you use a 2 & 4 ohm speaker in parallel your load should be 1.33 ohms

if you use  a 4 ohm & 4 ohm in parallel cut 4 in half so so it will be 2 ohms

If you wanted to have everything according to spec (2Ω) you could also connect the two speaker pairs (2 and 4Ω) in parallel, then connect a 2Ω resistor in series with the 2Ω speakers.  That would put you at 2Ω, right? 

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ORIGINAL: texas steve
Iclick, how did your Tigers do?  I did not get to see the game!

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ORIGINAL: iclick

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ORIGINAL: texas steve
Iclick, how did your Tigers do?  I did not get to see the game!

LSU plays OSU in the BCS National Championship Game on Jan. 7th.  SEC is doing well, 4-for-4 so far in bowl games--but Ark. is floundering against Mizzou at the moment.  UT is handling Wisc. fairly well thru the 3rd quarter.  More scores at the top of the hour.  Stay tuned to this channel for complete sport coverage. 

Thanks for the input on the tweeters.  I'm leaning toward the Memphis tweeters (aluminum cone), only because I see an Ebay seller offering 11 sets for $50 + $15 shipping per pair.  I haven't seen the Polk's anywhere for less than about $90/pr.

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ORIGINAL: CREEPSHOW

I was just thinking about the speaker holes and thought if you had a standard, put them where the two guages go. That way if you were to remove them, you could put guages in, no holes! Also, for the guys who are worried about the fairing mount mirrors, this is a way to cover those holes if you remove the mirrors, if ya don't like the mirrors or bought a bike with them and wanna remove the mirrors! Tweeters can come in handy!

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ORIGINAL: XfasteddieX

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ORIGINAL: CREEPSHOW

I was just thinking about the speaker holes and thought if you had a standard, put them where the two gages go. That way if you were to remove them, you could put gages in, no holes! Also, for the guys who are worried about the fairing mount mirrors, this is a way to cover those holes if you remove the mirrors, if ya don't like the mirrors or bought a bike with them and wanna remove the mirrors! Tweeters can come in handy!

thats what I'm doing with my tweets

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ORIGINAL: CREEPSHOW

I was just thinking about the speaker holes and thought if you had a standard, put them where the two guages go. That way if you were to remove them, you could put guages in, no holes! Also, for the guys who are worried about the fairing mount mirrors, this is a way to cover those holes if you remove the mirrors, if ya don't like the mirrors or bought a bike with them and wanna remove the mirrors! Vis versa, if you want to add tweeters and don't plan on mounting fairing mounted mirrors, borrow a mirror template and drill the holes for fairing mirrors. Then mount you tweeters. If you decide you don't like the tweeters remove them and install fairing mount mirrors, the holes are already there. Tweeters can come in handy! Just an idea..