RE: LSU vs ohio State for the BCS championship
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RE: LSU vs ohio State for the BCS championship - 12/7/2007 1:36:44 AM
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Eyeball Kid
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Ya best watch it with those *fluke* comments. caj will jump your ass for those kinda comments.
Who you callin' a fluke???????????????
Not you. Just what you said.
When I called last years tOSU loss a fluke, you jumped my ass for it. So I figure you might jump tbone's ass for calling LSUs loss a fluke as well.
Just trying to keep peace in the forum, man. Most of us are just having a good time over our teams being in the game.
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RE: LSU vs ohio State for the BCS championship - 12/7/2007 1:44:36 AM
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Eyeball Kid
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Who's your daddy?
Who's in the big game?
Who's in the big game?
Das rite.
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RE: LSU vs ohio State for the BCS championship - 12/7/2007 5:45:13 AM
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Who is in THE BIG GAME?
The better question would be, "Who Shouldn't be in the big game?" and the answer is "LSU." They certainly don't deserve it. There some one-loss teams out there that are much better qualified.
What exactly are you smoking???? You want to talk about who didnt deserve it??? Let's try Ohio St....
For starters, why were they even ranked in the top 25 this year to begin the season? They lost their starting QB (a Heisman winner), their starting RB, their top 3 WR's, and really didnt have a good year in the recruiting class. Notre Dame on the other hand, lost their starting QB, RB, and top 3 WR's....and wasnt even ranked.....
So how did Ohio St. get ranked???? BCS Bandwagon voters is how....they played 3 decent teams all year....and struggled in 2 of those games...
Bottom line, if anyone doesnt belong, its Ohio State.....as they backed into their conference championship...
The two teams that should be playing for a national title are LSU and Oklahoma, and you could even make a case that it should be Va. Tech playing LSU......as Va. Tech is the ACC Champion...
Before anyone throws a fit, here's why I say this..... 13 games..... most conferences require the Championship to be decided in an extra game. These games count against their record. Win, and you stay in position to maybe play for a title.....lose....and your out. The Big 10 and Pac 10 dont play a 13th game to decide their conference championship....
Why should those teams get a free pass? Consider....that the year Auburn went undefeated (13-0, 2004 I believe) Oklahoma went 13-0, and USC went 12-0, Auburn clearly had a better record then USC.....but was snubbed from the title game.
Now look at this year...... Missouri and West Virginia (ranked #1 and #2 before last weekend) played their conference title games......both lost.....and thats how LSU and Ohio State got in.....Either balance the schedule so that only the regular 12 games count in determining a #1 or #2 team for the BCS title game, or reward teams with a 13th game with some extra points so as to offset a major drop in the rankings....
However, I like the idea Dan Wetzel proposed... Dan Wetzel's NCAA Playoff Scenario
16 team playoff (includes the 11 conference champions & 5 at large teams)
This would allow every conference to put their champions in, plus the 5 best remaining teams would be eligible. This would allow Georgia, Boston College, Oklahoma, USC, and probably Central Florida to play for the title as well...
Personally, 16 teams is the best way to go. 8 teams wouldnt cover all the conferences, and I'm sorry, but if you go undefeated you should have a shot at the title. I dont care what conference your in. Boise State showed that last year.....
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RE: LSU vs ohio State for the BCS championship - 12/7/2007 5:55:48 AM
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This is why we will never see a playoff, b/c of what we are doing right now. The debate gives analyst something to talk about, which creates more money. It's like Big Dan said in O brother...."It's all about the money boys."
The reason Dan Wetzel bracket will never fly is b/c you would end up with a final four of USC, LSU, Florida, & Georgia. Pac-10 and SEC would get all the money and they won't let that happen.
I do like the bracket though.
I really don't care what they do as long as Les keeps bringing the Crystal to Baton Rouge.
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RE: LSU vs ohio State for the BCS championship - 12/7/2007 8:17:07 AM
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This is why we will never see a playoff, b/c of what we are doing right now. The debate gives analyst something to talk about, which creates more money. It's like Big Dan said in O brother...."It's all about the money boys."
The reason Dan Wetzel bracket will never fly is b/c you would end up with a final four of USC, LSU, Florida, & Georgia. Pac-10 and SEC would get all the money and they won't let that happen.
I do like the bracket though.
I really don't care what they do as long as Les keeps bringing the Crystal to Baton Rouge.
How is that any different then in any other sport however? Look at NCAA Basketball....March Madness is one of the biggest money making tourney's in the country......and some years you do have the exact same teams in the Final Four......but at least those other teams had a LEGIT chance to make it...
If a team went 15-1 in the NFL, they'd be in the playoffs......if you went 30-2 in College Hoops, you'd be in the playoffs.......go 13-0 in College football and you might get a consolation prize.....
Bottom line - the opportunity would be there for teams to capitalize on upsets and just being in the game.
Also, the higher ranked teams....would get home games......so there's more money going to the college's themselves, rather then some bowl game 1500 miles away....
Picture 3 straight playoff home games for Ohio State or Louisville or Hawaii....that's millions of dollars dumped right back into the city and college......
Even if Hawaii lost its first game in a playoff, that school/city could make 4-5 million in cash for the area......that is worth ALOT more then gaining money for the entire conference.....
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RE: LSU vs ohio State for the BCS championship - 12/7/2007 8:33:46 AM
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This is why we will never see a playoff, b/c of what we are doing right now. The debate gives analyst something to talk about, which creates more money. It's like Big Dan said in O brother...."It's all about the money boys."
The reason Dan Wetzel bracket will never fly is b/c you would end up with a final four of USC, LSU, Florida, & Georgia. Pac-10 and SEC would get all the money and they won't let that happen.
I do like the bracket though.
I really don't care what they do as long as Les keeps bringing the Crystal to Baton Rouge.
How is that any different then in any other sport however? Look at NCAA Basketball....March Madness is one of the biggest money making tourney's in the country......and some years you do have the exact same teams in the Final Four......but at least those other teams had a LEGIT chance to make it...
If a team went 15-1 in the NFL, they'd be in the playoffs......if you went 30-2 in College Hoops, you'd be in the playoffs.......go 13-0 in College football and you might get a consolation prize.....
Bottom line - the opportunity would be there for teams to capitalize on upsets and just being in the game.
Also, the higher ranked teams....would get home games......so there's more money going to the college's themselves, rather then some bowl game 1500 miles away....
Picture 3 straight playoff home games for Ohio State or Louisville or Hawaii....that's millions of dollars dumped right back into the city and college......
Even if Hawaii lost its first game in a playoff, that school/city could make 4-5 million in cash for the area......that is worth ALOT more then gaining money for the entire conference.....
Can't compare NFL to college. If you go 15-1 in NFL you would have won your division or conference or whatever they call them. You can go to the playoffs in the NFL with a 7-9 record if you win your conference in a weak conference (see Hawaii). In basketball if you go 30-2 you get an invitation even if you came in second in your conference to a 30-1 team. You can be 14-18 and win the conference tournament and go to the big dance. Even weak conferences are represented (see Hawaii). They rarely win, if ever. I don't know, I don't watch much basketball. They've suspended too many rules to resemble what basketball is supposed to be, a game of position. Now you can run over two or three people, palm the ball and walk and everyone thinks you made the greatest play ever.
They should take the conference champions of the Big-10, SEC, PAC-10, Big=12, ACC and the best record team from all the rest of the conferences and have a four team playoff each year. The SEC would win every year so, lets just cut the crap and declare the SEC champion the National champion every year.
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RE: LSU vs ohio State for the BCS championship - 12/7/2007 9:33:28 AM
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Can't compare NFL to college. If you go 15-1 in NFL you would have won your division or conference or whatever they call them. You can go to the playoffs in the NFL with a 7-9 record if you win your conference in a weak conference (see Hawaii). In basketball if you go 30-2 you get an invitation even if you came in second in your conference to a 30-1 team. You can be 14-18 and win the conference tournament and go to the big dance. Even weak conferences are represented (see Hawaii). They rarely win, if ever. I don't know, I don't watch much basketball. They've suspended too many rules to resemble what basketball is supposed to be, a game of position. Now you can run over two or three people, palm the ball and walk and everyone thinks you made the greatest play ever.
They should take the conference champions of the Big-10, SEC, PAC-10, Big=12, ACC and the best record team from all the rest of the conferences and have a four team playoff each year. The SEC would win every year so, lets just cut the crap and declare the SEC champion the National champion every year.
My comparison was only to show that winning means less in college football....as its champion is based on voting, not actual record.
In EVERY sport, you win your division, you are in the playoffs, regardless of your record. Obviously there are going to mismatches, and some lopsided blowouts, but at least its a fair shake for all the teams. How is it fair for LSU (playing a hard schedule) to compete with a team like Ohio St. or Kansas (cupcake schedules) and try and sway the voters?
Sometimes bad teams make the playoffs, but those teams often face the very best team in the playoffs first. Usually, the best teams win. Sometimes they lose....but either way, at least there was an opportunity available to try and win.
Let me see here.... 2 times in the last 4 years a team from the WAC has gone undefeated... Boise St in 2006, and Hawaii this year.... yet none of them have even had a shot at a title....and Boise State beat Oklahoma last year....
Hawaii isnt a great team, but they could run with any of the top teams in the country....they'd lose some, but I'd bet they'd win more then you'd think.... Remember App. State....because any team can win
Lastly, if teams know that winning their conference is more important then style points, maybe it will cut down on some of the lopsided blowouts with star players still in the game after they're up 35...
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RE: LSU vs ohio State for the BCS championship - 12/7/2007 1:43:29 PM
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LETS GET READY TO RUMMMMBLE!
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RE: LSU vs ohio State for the BCS championship - 12/7/2007 1:50:44 PM
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Who's your daddy?
Who's in the big game?
Who's in the big game?
Das rite.
Now ya see it! Now ya don't!
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RE: LSU vs ohio State for the BCS championship - 12/7/2007 5:47:40 PM
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This is why we will never see a playoff, b/c of what we are doing right now. The debate gives analyst something to talk about, which creates more money. It's like Big Dan said in O brother...."It's all about the money boys."
The reason Dan Wetzel bracket will never fly is b/c you would end up with a final four of USC, LSU, Florida, & Georgia. Pac-10 and SEC would get all the money and they won't let that happen.
I do like the bracket though.
I really don't care what they do as long as Les keeps bringing the Crystal to Baton Rouge.
Sounds good to me.
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RE: LSU vs ohio State for the BCS championship - 12/7/2007 7:20:02 PM
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Jim looks like he just might suck a d i c k.
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RE: LSU vs ohio State for the BCS championship - 12/8/2007 6:42:14 AM
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Jim looks like he just might suck a d i c k.
Jim? I thought that was Jerry Lewis.
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RE: LSU vs ohio State for the BCS championship - 12/12/2007 11:30:24 AM
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So if LSU wins do they send the Championship ring to Saban or Miles ? LSU is winning games in spite of Miles lack of coaching . Hell LSU is not even 100 % behind him . When they heard Les might leave THEY contacted Saban ! LOL
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RE: LSU vs ohio State for the BCS championship - 12/12/2007 11:38:46 AM
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What bowl is Kenyucky going to this year?
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RE: LSU vs ohio State for the BCS championship - 12/12/2007 11:43:03 AM
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Where did you get that bullshit from? You do realize your beloved team payed $333,333.00 for that loss at ULM! I wouldn't be talking shit about LSU! Don't worry just about the time Bammer starts winning again $atan will be looking to go somewhere else!
< Message edited by ROLLNTIGER -- 12/12/2007 11:49:32 AM >
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RE: LSU vs ohio State for the BCS championship - 12/12/2007 4:46:52 PM
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I live in Baton Rouge, just a few miles from Death Valley...Tiger Stadium....and keep up with the goings on. They never talked to ole Nick about coming back, that's a 100% guarantee.
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RE: LSU vs ohio State for the BCS championship - 12/12/2007 6:01:36 PM
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When I called last years tOSU loss a fluke, you jumped my ass for it. So I figure you might jump tbone's ass for calling LSUs loss a fluke as well.
in all fairness, several teams had fluke losses while Ohio St. sat idle and was handed a shot at the championship this year.
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RE: LSU vs ohio State for the BCS championship - 12/13/2007 1:20:24 AM
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When I called last years tOSU loss a fluke, you jumped my ass for it. So I figure you might jump tbone's ass for calling LSUs loss a fluke as well.
in all fairness, several teams had fluke losses while Ohio St. sat idle and was handed a shot at the championship this year.
And, in all fairness, LSU jumped over an idle Georgia team and was handed a shot.
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RE: LSU vs ohio State for the BCS championship - 12/13/2007 1:06:06 PM
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Das right.
Whooo's ya daddy?
Who's goin' to the 'ship?
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RE: LSU vs ohio State for the BCS championship - 12/13/2007 2:39:27 PM
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When I called last years tOSU loss a fluke, you jumped my ass for it. So I figure you might jump tbone's ass for calling LSUs loss a fluke as well.
in all fairness, several teams had fluke losses while Ohio St. sat idle and was handed a shot at the championship this year.
And, in all fairness, LSU jumped over an idle Georgia team and was handed a shot.
Winning 13 games and your conference championship isnt being HANDED anything....
If anything, Ohio State should be the one left out simply because they didnt WIN their conference...they were given it by virtue of no conference title game...
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RE: LSU vs ohio State for the BCS championship - 12/13/2007 3:29:19 PM
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you jumped my a$$
I missed your comet about the fluke remark and me jumping your hind end. All I said was that a 41-14 beat down wasn't a fluke, it was a good old fashion country a$$ whipping. And you can take that to the bank. Now this year, what will happen who knows? I'm not near as confident with our offense as I was last year. I still think we will win, but it might not be 41-14 this year.......may be just 36-7. j/k
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RE: LSU vs ohio State for the BCS championship - 12/13/2007 7:38:51 PM
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All I said was that a 41-14 beat down wasn't a fluke, it was a good old fashion country a$$ whipping.
The gators were a better team that day. I've already owned that.
But honestly, I know they were not that much a better team.
And that was last year. I will no longer reply to any comments about that fluke game. 
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RE: LSU vs ohio State for the BCS championship - 12/14/2007 6:39:05 AM
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Me nether, now who do you think will win this year?
Anyone going, I tried to get tickets but I can't see myself spending 3-4G for 2 tickets, when for that price I could redo/finish out my rec room/dog house I'm building and still have a Plasma TV to watch for many years to come.
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