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Going with Turbo - 1/25/2008 8:03:35 AM
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whylee
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I think I have settled on installing a Trask Turbo on my DX. I did not like the look at first but it has been growing on me the past couple of months. I have been reading all I can on them and it seems to be a very good set up. Ill post pics when I get that far.
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RE: Going with Turbo - 1/25/2008 9:49:36 AM
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If you have not bought the Trask you ought to check out www.boostisgood.com They have a system that uses any type of slip-on VRSC exhaust so you're not limited on the exhaust you run with the turbo.
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RE: Going with Turbo - 1/25/2008 1:36:04 PM
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That Turbo Connection turbo is sweet. Just put it on my "must have" list. Notice I said list...
Thanks...great link!
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RE: Going with Turbo - 1/25/2008 2:18:12 PM
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I want a turbo that will go with my Indy Pipe.... I'm thinking doing the NOS in the meantime... I hear it's cheap...
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RE: Going with Turbo - 1/25/2008 9:43:01 PM
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whylee
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If you have not bought the Trask you ought to check out www.boostisgood.com They have a system that uses any type of slip-on VRSC exhaust so you're not limited on the exhaust you run with the turbo.
Thanks for the info, that looks good, but there is not much info on it. I do like the idea of using different exhaust systems, but that system with a exhaust system ( I still have my stock exhaust) would cost 2 grand more than a trask. I also want it all in black, and the trask kit has that. I will call them and talk to them for more info.
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RE: Going with Turbo - 1/26/2008 6:43:40 AM
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You can get the Turbo Connections in black as well, the first picture you see is a 2008 DX with a black system. There are also other things that make the system different, and some would argue better, than the Trask Turbo. I'm not telling you that you HAVE TO go this route (other people do that) but I just wanted to throw it out there as an option in case you hadn't seen it. From what I've seen and read it's a well built system for both air-cooled and VRSCs.
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RE: Going with Turbo - 1/26/2008 7:34:59 AM
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There is a reason that no major manufacture has ever used the aerocharger in production. Do your homework, all turbo chargers are not alike. Usually a google search for bearing failures with aerochargers or you can search aerocharger out of business or support and produce some interesting information. RCC and Trask both use Garrett turbo chargers, Garrett is used by every major automotive and truck manufacture for a reason.
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RE: Going with Turbo - 1/26/2008 8:03:29 AM
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whylee
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There is a reason that no major manufacture has ever used the aerocharger in production. Do your homework, all turbo chargers are not alike. Usually a google search for bearing failures with aerochargers or you can search aerocharger out of business or support and produce some interesting information. RCC and Trask both use Garrett turbo chargers, Garrett is used by every major automotive and truck manufacture for a reason.
Thats what I have come up with so far. I always like to keep my options open and I like finding out about other products out there. There just seems to be so much info on the trask, and for the most part everything I have read has been good.
There are also alot of guys running these on the 1130cc forums and some with high miles with no problems. I want reliability and the Trask seems to fit the bill so far.
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RE: Going with Turbo - 1/30/2008 7:30:43 PM
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FYI
i have installed 6 Aerocharger kits during the mid and late 90"s. i am still running 2 of them on a 95 and 94 Ultras with a combined 90,000 miles with no problems running 6-10 psi boost. they have both served double duty pulling sidecars and single and 2 up riding. the 94 Ultra has over 40,000 miles pulling a sidecar and trailer all on touring trips with my wife and 2 daughters. i usually run consistently 3-6 pounds of boost cruising 55-75 MPH for hundreds of miles like my Sturgis trips from New York. the original Aerocharger company had difficulty in the early 2000 era and were out of business. they were located only 10 miles from me so i was a frequent visitor. the company has been reborn and the Turbos are being manufactured out of the Kansas City area and Turboconnection in Rapid City is a current dealer. check it out at boostisgood.com. In my opinion knowing what i know about the Aerocharger turbo and the installation it is my system of choice now that they are back in business.
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RE: Going with Turbo - 2/1/2008 6:41:41 PM
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FYI
i have installed 6 Aerocharger kits during the mid and late 90"s. i am still running 2 of them on a 95 and 94 Ultras with a combined 90,000 miles with no problems running 6-10 psi boost. they have both served double duty pulling sidecars and single and 2 up riding. the 94 Ultra has over 40,000 miles pulling a sidecar and trailer all on touring trips with my wife and 2 daughters. i usually run consistently 3-6 pounds of boost cruising 55-75 MPH for hundreds of miles like my Sturgis trips from New York. the original Aerocharger company had difficulty in the early 2000 era and were out of business. they were located only 10 miles from me so i was a frequent visitor. the company has been reborn and the Turbos are being manufactured out of the Kansas City area and Turboconnection in Rapid City is a current dealer. check it out at boostisgood.com. In my opinion knowing what i know about the Aerocharger turbo and the installation it is my system of choice now that they are back in business.
i need to clarify that the company in Kansas City Hiper Turbo is the Aerocharger Turbo manufaturer and is not involved in the turbo kits themselves. Turboconnection in Rapid City is the dealer for the Hiper Turbo Aerocharger and designs the kit's that use the Hiper Turbo Aerocharger turbo they advertise and install.
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RE: Going with Turbo - 2/15/2008 10:29:36 AM
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RE: Going with Turbo - 2/15/2008 3:38:39 PM
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I decided to go with a BB instead of a Turbo because I just can't get over the look of a Turbo. For me there's just to much going on. However when I was at the 1130cc rally in KC this past September one of the members had a DX with a black Turbo on it and I will say that the black one on a black bike really looked pretty good. If I had a DX I would do the Trask kit in a heartbeat. My BB is going to cost me doouble of what the Trask kit would for about the same amount of power.
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RE: Going with Turbo - 4/13/2008 7:04:43 AM
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I was in Phoenix last week and had a chance to take a Night Rod Special with the Trask Turbo out for a spin. What a awesome bike, I fell in love with that thing now I am debating getting my 2nd bike. I just picked up a 08 Street Glide, but I am really wanting an 08 Night Rod Special and installing a Trask Turbo. That thing reminded me of my quad days (I used to have a very fast quad, not 160hp fast but still fast).
The only thing that I was not crazy about with the Trask kit is that the pipe is close to your right leg. At stop lights I had to stand off to the side to avoid burning my leg. Also, that thing is loud.
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RE: Going with Turbo - 4/13/2008 7:14:34 PM
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Now that's a turbo I would consider, especially since it comes in black. I happen to like the stock pipes on the bike, and since I have a D and mid controls, there is no problem in installation. It is does not stand out like somthing just added on. Definitely something to consider.
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RE: Going with Turbo - 4/16/2008 7:17:16 PM
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You can get a 30T or 26T sprocket from v-mod. The mapping will change the redline to 10K or 10.5K so the redline is moved.
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RE: Going with Turbo - 4/28/2008 10:43:03 AM
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If you're really going for top speed, with a belt and the available pulley setups, you're going to want a 30 tooth front and a 70tooth rear. It will increase your top speed for about 14%, give or take.
If you want to really gear up, then you'll need to go with a chain drive and you can choose any combo you'd like.
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The only paired gear that is available right now for the V-Rod is the Vance and Hines reduced 2nd gear. It helps even out the change from 1-2 and 2-3 to keep the bike in the power band for drag use.
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RE: Going with Turbo - 4/28/2008 10:45:20 AM
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NightStar - Yep, I know about those two pulley's. Raising the redline to 10.5k with the stock 26T (rear) Pulley will probably get you rolling to 155 to 160 mph + or- 10% depending on your speedo. If I'm going to shell out $4k + for a turbo, then I want the scoot to be able to hit 180 mph+ :)... Heck, my vette hit 180, I figure the bike ought to be able to :)... I couldn't believe no one out there in the 8 years the V-Rod has been out hasn't come up with gearing for the transmission or different pulley's other than the two you have stated. One of these days, somebody out there, maybe Andrews will come up with different gear ratio's you can put in the tranny and get the ol V-Rod cruis'en :)... Thanks for the input.
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Go to a chain... then you can setup whatever ratios you want... not to mention pick-up a few ponies.
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RE: Going with Turbo - 5/2/2008 5:25:31 AM
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You'll like the Trask turbo. You won't go wrong with it. The air filter intereferes with the Key, so you may want to consider ditching your Igntion for the Digital Guard Dawg Keyless Ignition module DGD-KIM.
You can see it at www.digitalguarddawg.com
If you decide you want to order one, drop an email to keylessmod@v-rod.net. I can guarantee the lowest pricing on that unit.
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RE: Going with Turbo - 5/2/2008 3:09:47 PM
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Herr Monk
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I was going to go Turbo.
Still plan on it when I get a 2nd bike...
But say what you will, without some kind of cooling system (intercooler) on a trask, or other turbo (I guess maybe some of them have it), I don't want to risk running the turbo. I go on rides through the hot desert/high desert when I'm over 100mph for hours on end. Best case it sounds like I'd be running 5-6psi the whole time... I would guess more... sounds like on flate terrian the trasks are running about 2psi for your typical 70-80mph cruise...
Turbos sound like they are great for the track and around town, but for now I need my bike to do all things.... without melting the engine.
There's one in my futare,just not yet.
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RE: Going with Turbo - 5/3/2008 7:18:02 PM
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Check these blowers out made downunder
http://www.sprintex.com.au/Harley_Davidson_V_Rod_Supercharger_Kits.asp
Those have been out for a while, and I'm afraid they haven't been real impressive. If you plan on having a show bike, that you never ride, go for it. If you'd like to ride your V-Rod, forget it.
Before Vance and Hines got distribition rights for this unit, it was being tested by another big name in AHDRA. They found that it just doesn't make any power above about 145HP.
They put it on a bike with a 1550 Big Bore that was putting out 160HP at the rear wheel naturally aspirated. When they put the sprintex unit on it, they couldn't get it above 145HP on the same dyno. It just didn't flow well enough to keep up for the air needs for the motor.
Add that to the fact that Vance and Hines was having so much trouble with that unit, they stopped selling them, and subsiquently, Sprintex and Vance and Hines went their separate ways.
There are better systems with a proven track record if you're looking for power. In my opinion.
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RE: Going with Turbo - 5/4/2008 2:04:35 AM
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rjrivero - Thanks for the tip but my V-Rod is an 05 with the ignition key next to the fuel tank so the air cleaner is no problem.
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RE: Going with Turbo - 5/4/2008 2:24:02 AM
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Herr Monk - I'm where you are going to be. I have my 05 VRSCB and 07 FLHTC. One is for fun and the other is for trips  The only reason I purchased the turbo is to get the biggest bang for the buck and some bragging rights in my community. I believe I will have the only V-Rod with a turbo in my community  Without a turbo, to get the same horse power increase from what I have now would cost about the same but a whole lot more work  My V-Rod is stock, I have installed the Power Commander, Rineharts duals and K&N air cleaner. I've never dyno'd the bike but I would guess I'm somewhere around 107 hp to the rear wheel. I'm not too worried about the inner cooler as it is set up from Trask at maximum boost of 8 psi. But, at a future date I will plumb in the cooling system before next season. Right now, I won't be running her hard. I've got to get used to the extra ponies, taking little steps at a time until I understand how the bike handles. I've never had a bike with a turbo on it so I don't know the feel yet.
The turbo will give me another 60 ponies which figures out to $83 per hp upgrade. I'm going to change out the handle bars as I have never liked the stock gauges on the V-Rod. At my age, my eyes aren't what they used to be and the tach is too small for me to read. I'm going to 1 1/4 t-bars, 5 inch procycle tach (10k rpm) with shift light and the 5000 series Dakota speedo setup. Once I get the turbo, bars and gauges installed then I'm going with the Pingle electric shift kit. That will just about do it for this season. I'll post pic's when I'm done with the bike. The turbo is a week out before I get it. I figure about two days to install everything.
Next season I want to upgrade the rear end to a wider tire and put in a couple other gauges from Dakota. I will run the cyclinder head temp gauges for both front and rear and a oil gauge. I'll be installing a water/alcohol injection system which should give me another 40 ponies. My goal is to take the bike down to Bonneville in two years and see what she will do in the "run what you brung" class By then I'll be 57 yrs old and if I can get the scoot to hit the 200 mph mark, I'll be happy. It won't be easy getting there but heck, that's what goals are all about.
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