RE: RE:IED'S
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RE: RE:IED'S - 5/18/2008 5:22:14 AM
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HDDOC
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Cruiser ! absolutly no intake or exhast leaks on my bike the bike does run cooler and throttle response is good, the only thing that urks me is the slight pop on decel and some up shifts. I agree it is hard to read plugs with todays epa set ups and fuels and my plugs are tested with plugs chops, not after a ride, if I read the plugs after Idel they look good. I have a differant set of mufflers that I am going to try and see if it is the Super Trapps doing this. Thanks Doc
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RE: RE:IED'S - 5/18/2008 5:59:34 AM
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elpoman
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Just a happy small report. I have an O8 Ultra and just realized that on the last few rides, I have not felt any heat on my right calf. With the IED's I got some heat, not much, but with the XlED's none.
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RE: RE:IED'S - 5/18/2008 9:14:46 AM
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G Rod
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Hiflyer,
Must have something to do with the mods I have done(see signature). I also make sure my tires have 38psi rear and 32 front, I run irridium spark plugs, I am in the highest gear feasable at all times and I rode the trip solo with all my stuff in the chase car. I use Lucas fuel injector cleaner every 4th tank and seldom hot rod my scoot. Other than that it musta been the "made in China calculator.
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RE: RE:IED'S - 5/18/2008 9:50:28 AM
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harleybonz
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XiED
13.8:1 AFR Xtreme Inline Enhancement Device for
2007 H-D
2008 H-D would this be too rich or not
nightrider offers 2 diff kinds. any help.
great site, im new here. thanks
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RE: RE:IED'S - 5/18/2008 12:44:19 PM
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heywood727
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XiED
13.8:1 AFR Xtreme Inline Enhancement Device for
2007 H-D
2008 H-D would this be too rich or not
nightrider offers 2 diff kinds. any help.
great site, im new here. thanks
No mods.... IED's would be fine. XIED's are better but richer.
Slight mods such as A/C, Pipes and above.....XIED's
Depends on what your running?
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RE: RE:IED'S - 5/18/2008 4:57:32 PM
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zzmellio
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FOR Sale
Pair of XIED's. $75.00 plus shipping
Do not work with my setup.
PM me if interested.
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RE: RE:IED'S - 5/18/2008 5:44:44 PM
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marvincbr
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Did you try them with out the PC III? Seems everyone that does like them does not have another fuel management in the system. I am running A/C and pipes as well as a 103 kit and am very happy with mine so far. Re gapped my plugs this morning to .044 and put around 200 miles on today a am pleased as hell about the way she is running. Thank you every one for all the info and testing with input and opinions, great product.
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RE: RE:IED'S - 5/18/2008 7:05:27 PM
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heywood727
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Did you try them with out the PC III? Seems everyone that does like them does not have another fuel management in the system. I am running A/C and pipes as well as a 103 kit and am very happy with mine so far. Re gapped my plugs this morning to .044 and put around 200 miles on today a am pleased as hell about the way she is running. Thank you every one for all the info and testing with input and opinions, great product.
I was wondering how you made out with the 103. Glad to hear they worked out for you.
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RE: RE:IED'S - 5/18/2008 7:29:47 PM
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mike5511
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Runs better so you are not using as much throttle??????????
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RE: RE:IED'S - 5/18/2008 8:28:41 PM
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rsofa
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Ok just placed my order now for the waiting game hope I get mine by the holiday weekend!! !
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RE: RE:IED'S - 5/18/2008 9:05:43 PM
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heywood727
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+1 on what mike and cruiser said.
Same theory as regular and hi octane gas. More AFR = bigger bang. This only works to a certain point then your having so much fun, you end up twisting the throttle more.
rsofa:
Only took 40 pages? We were getting worried....lol (jk)
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RE: RE:IED'S - 5/19/2008 3:35:08 AM
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Metalgear454
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Hey guys, I think I know the answer to this but just want to be clear about something. These devices are simply installed inline at the ONE connection. NOT removing the portion of harness that goes from O2 to first connector? Right? (Looks like the O2 sensor has built in wire harness.) Before receiving them, and not having looked at it, I had it in my mind that you are replacing that first harness due to the length of the devices I saw in the diagram and photos posted here. Anyway thanks for any responses! I'm about to do my own testing and just received an IR thermometer. Will post results. Thanks! Ride safe!
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RE: Nightrider O2 IED's - Field Test - 5/19/2008 5:05:39 AM
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loc
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Does anyone have a dyno on these XIED's that shows AFR before and after comparison to really see if they do the 14.7:1 down to 13.8:1 during the closed loop?
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RE: RE:IED'S - 5/19/2008 6:07:40 AM
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elpoman
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Hey guys, I think I know the answer to this but just want to be clear about something. These devices are simply installed inline at the ONE connection. NOT removing the portion of harness that goes from O2 to first connector? Right? (Looks like the O2 sensor has built in wire harness.) Before receiving them, and not having looked at it, I had it in my mind that you are replacing that first harness due to the length of the devices I saw in the diagram and photos posted here. Anyway thanks for any responses! I'm about to do my own testing and just received an IR thermometer. Will post results. Thanks! Ride safe!
Yes, they are just installed inline, no removing of any harness.
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RE: RE:IED'S - 5/19/2008 6:45:03 AM
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rsofa
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+1 on what mike and cruiser said.
Same theory as regular and hi octane gas. More AFR = bigger bang. This only works to a certain point then your having so much fun, you end up twisting the throttle more.
rsofa:
Only took 40 pages? We were getting worried....lol (jk)
Some of us are slow learners!! Wanted to get my 1k service out of the way before I installed these....
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RE: RE:IED'S - 5/19/2008 7:37:31 AM
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beerguytx
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The Xieds don't work on my set up. Bike is still running very hot, 265 oil temp which is where it was before.
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RE: RE:IED'S - 5/19/2008 9:16:18 AM
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kdietz
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The Xieds don't work on my set up. Bike is still running very hot, 265 oil temp which is where it was before.
Same here.....I installed them on my wife's bone stock FLHX last week.....it definitely runs better, but the rear cylinder was still at 370 degrees....front at 320
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RE: RE:IED'S - 5/19/2008 9:28:30 AM
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diebolt
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kdietz & beerguytx,
Does the bike seem to run cooler?
Take the bike out on a long run (in the heat) on the open road and stop and go traffic.
Remove the XiED's and go on same run and see if you notice any difference.
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RE: RE:IED'S - 5/19/2008 9:35:41 AM
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kdietz
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kdietz & beerguytx,
Does the bike seem to run cooler?
Take the bike out on a long run (in the heat) on the open road and stop and go traffic.
Remove the XiED's and go on same run and see if you notice any difference.
We had low 90's yesterday while I rode her bike....the heat isn't an issue while riding at all.....just on the infrared gauge
We're not disappointed with the way the bike runs....smoother, better roll on power....fuel mileage yet to be seen
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RE: RE:IED'S - 5/19/2008 10:27:50 AM
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diebolt
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Karl,
I know that my bike in the upper 90's with the lower fairings still on will run in the high 200's on the front & mid 300's on the rear cylinder. This is running at highway speed and stoping and quickly checking the temps.
If I check after I am in traffic & signals the temps are low 300's front & high 300's rear when I stop and check the temp.
I don't know if my gauge is correct but I do know that the bike is a lot cooler with the XiED's on.
I do know that my bike will be hotter than a bike without lowers because I have dead air behind the lowers and that can't help with cooling the front or back cylinder.
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RE: Nightrider O2 IED's - Field Test - 5/19/2008 11:12:44 AM
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heywood727
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Does anyone have a dyno on these XIED's that shows AFR before and after comparison to really see if they do the 14.7:1 down to 13.8:1 during the closed loop?
This is from Rider57. He did this test for Steve just before the XIED's were released. He might have an updated one. It shows the HP. There was one other I thought, but I didn't save it. Rider works at an EPA lab (i think) so I'm not sure if he has access to a dyno for TQ.
He may have one that shows both. I'm not sure? This does show the differences in HP with different set ups. Look through the earlier posts. I thought I seen one, but it could have been a copy and paste thing from HD on what the Stage 1 does now that I think of it?
Does this help?
Heywood
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RE: RE:IED'S - 5/19/2008 11:56:01 AM
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beerguytx
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kdietz & beerguytx,
Does the bike seem to run cooler?
Take the bike out on a long run (in the heat) on the open road and stop and go traffic.
Remove the XiED's and go on same run and see if you notice any difference.
My bike did not run any cooler with the XIEDS.
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RE: RE:IED'S - 5/19/2008 12:01:38 PM
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diebolt
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I would double check all connections and if they are all OK I would test the XiED's.
On Nightriders web site he has instructions how to do that.
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RE: RE:IED'S - 5/19/2008 12:15:39 PM
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diebolt
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From Nightriders Web Site:
Testing the NBO2 Inline Enrichment Device off and on the bike
If at any time you think your O2 IED is not working properly, you should first make sure the connectors are properly plugged in and are tight. If you still feel there is an issue, you need to remove it from the bike first. Test your O2 IED with a 1.5V battery, 2 paper clips and a volt meter. First you need to check the battery to make sure it is producing 1.5V. Open up the paper clips and install them into the female connector (wiring harness side). Touch the battery to the paper clips so the (+) side is on the blue wire site and the (-) on the grey side. Touch the voltmeter to the male connectors (wiring harness side). You should see 1.00 to .90 volts or about 30% less than the battery voltage. If the correct voltage is present, the O2 IED is working correctly.
You can also check your O2 IED on the bike.
Disconnect the O2 IED at the wiring harness connector. Your O2 IED will still be connected to the oxygen sensor. Start the engine up, letting it warm up for 2-3 minutes. With a voltmeter connected to the two pins in the connector, check the voltage. Normal voltage should be .250 to .750 volts with the engine running. If there is no voltage at the O2 IED pins, disconnect the O2 IED from the oxygen sensor. Check the voltage at the sensor pins. Normal voltage should be .250 to .750 volts. If there is no voltage at the oxygen sensor, the oxygen sensor is bad. If there is voltage at the oxygen sensor, but not at the O2 IED, then the O2 IED needs replacement.
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RE: RE:IED'S - 5/19/2008 2:14:19 PM
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beerguytx
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Cruiser, you got me mixed up with kdietz but you are correct, something isn't right because they did nothing to my bike.
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RE: RE:IED'S - 5/19/2008 2:31:39 PM
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jimmers1817
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So after 40 pages we have scientifically concluded that the XIED either works or it doesn't.
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