RE: RE:IED'S
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RE: RE:IED'S - 5/19/2008 9:39:15 PM
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zoopman
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Well I said I'd give ya a report as I recieved the Xied's today and put them on. I'm using the Xied's with the fuelpak. I'm also using the big sucker A/C with 2.25 rush slip-ons--no hd download. My bike is an 07 FXD. As others have said--I noticed a smoother steadier idle. The idle seemed a bit lower also. I still seem to have some surging but less of it. I have not checked my plugs yet but will do so after some more miles. The big thing I did notice was LESS heat around my right leg. I feel good knowing that I am now covered in the closed loop area. -----Another satisfied Xied member. Thanks guys.  
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RE: RE:IED'S - 5/19/2008 9:49:32 PM
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SteveXL
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All I gotta say is that was the fastest shipment I have ever received from the East Coast. I ordered my XiED's on Friday and received them Monday! I finally got around to installing them which was rather easy. The only problem I ran in to was installing my new K&N RK-3909 Air Cleaner Kit. It was missing the back plate! Well, guess I will have to give AutoZone a call and have them get me a new one or I could call K&N and have a new plate sent out. Anyhoo, the XiED's made the bike startup so much quicker and it only had to stay above 1100rpm for about 3 seconds versus about 15 before. I am going to leave them on as I still have my new Vance & Hines Basic Sli-Ons and boy, the decel noise is so much smoother and there is much more power avail under 2000rpm. I can actually cruise without making tons of noise and without fear of stalling. Thanks Nightrider for the fast shipment and great product!
Oh, btw, I have a Gen1 XiED. I'm not sure of the difference between the Gen2, but it is fine. I would probably reconsider the design to make it more flexible and idiot proof when it comes to breaking the resistor leads. Other than that, everything is great.
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RE: Extremes - 5/19/2008 10:03:42 PM
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TC96Rider
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Got mine on Thurs.; if you see this Steve, great service! Installed on Friday, took me an hour though. Soft-tail, 2007 Heritage, had to work around oil cooler on the front and due to location of rear connection (tight under oil bag) had to remove the battery for easier access. No big deal though. My bike didn't have the surging or pinging so I couldn't say much about that; however the idle was a tad smoother and the heat drop was noticeable, just what the doctor ordered! I did install the K&N 3909 air kit at the same time, needed to let her breathe some, previously had installed slip-ons. Over all I would have to say it was the best $100.00 spent. We had 90 degree temps. here in WA. last week, oil stayed below 230 and head temps. averaged about 310; a good 20 degrees cooler than without the Extremes. Still might try synthetic oil haven't decided yet. Mobil 1 or Amzoil, one better than the other? Satisfied at last!!
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RE: Extremes - 5/19/2008 10:12:29 PM
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SteveXL
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Heat drop was definately noticeable. It was 100 degrees around 9pm so I decided to ride in shorts which was probably dumb, but, oh well. Anyways, I would've probably burned my legs and ankles without the XiED's. It was a rather cool ride for such a hot ambient temperature. Also, I am runnin Amsoil 20/50 in the Primary and Engine. Amsoil Severe Gear 75/90 in the Transmission.
< Message edited by SteveXL -- 5/19/2008 10:19:19 PM >
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RE: Nightrider O2 IED's - Field Test - 5/20/2008 5:47:28 AM
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Rider57
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I still have all the results of the tests for both IED's and XiED's.
I am just finishing up with the same tests with different aftermarket cams for Steve. Little slow on this as I am down to 1 mechanic with 1 on vacation until the end of the month.
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RE: Nightrider O2 IED's - Field Test - 5/20/2008 6:04:21 AM
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Jessie
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I just installed and it's raining so can only say that Idle is lower and smoother will up date later ! Steve How did you ship it5 on Saturday and get it here on Monday ? You must Have a lot of clout ! Thank you again Steve you are a true Gentleman
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RE: Nightrider O2 IED's - Field Test - 5/20/2008 7:09:13 AM
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HarleyDawg
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I received my XIED's on Saturday and finally installed them on Monday night. Made the bike feel like an entirely different bike and the idle is more distinct sounding. I'm able to roll on the throttle at 1500 rpm's with no bucking, snorting or farting like before. Engine is cooler running also. My next improvements will be the K&N RK-3909 and FuelMoto's modified Rush or Blackjack slip ons. One of my wish list improvements was to add the IDS that I'm not going to do now because the XIED's have dampened out vibrations in the drive train. Thank you Steve, Cruiser85257 and Rider57 for all of the hard work and research done to make our bikes a better running machine. I'm running Mobil V-Twin 20-50 in the crankcase and Mobil1 75-90 in the transmission.
In fact the bike runs so good now I'm taking 2 more days off from work to go ride.
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RE: Nightrider O2 IED's - Field Test - 5/20/2008 10:58:45 AM
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Leftcoaster
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SGDUDE, just installed IEDs on the wife's '07 Heritage along with a Big Sucker and VH Softail Duals. Decel pop is dramatic and at it's worst when the throttle is chopped after a hard pull but it ALWAYS pops. Getting ready to take off the IEDs and put on a PCIII from Fuelmoto. Will update with results.
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RE: Nightrider O2 IED's - Field Test - 5/20/2008 1:37:47 PM
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BCguy
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Leftcoaster, I'm also getting serious exhaust popping with the IED's installed. Running SE a/c, Stg 1 ECM upload and V&H Ovals. I'll be watching to see if the PCIII makes a difference.
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RE: Nightrider O2 IED's - Field Test - 5/20/2008 2:40:55 PM
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cruiser85257
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Leftcoaster, I'm also getting serious exhaust popping with the IED's installed. Running SE a/c, Stg 1 ECM upload and V&H Ovals. I'll be watching to see if the PCIII makes a difference.
There's no reason why you should have what you describe as serious popping. What were you running before the IED, and did you have popping?
Slip on mufflers are famous for popping because of an air leak where the muffler slips onto the header pipe. It is always recommended that you use new muffler clamps when you install new mufflers. Another trick that works quite well is to use high temperature permatex sealant.(Permatex Ultra Copper RTV silicone gasket). Any air leak causing fresh air to get sucked into the exhaust will surely cause popping and back fires depending on it's severity.
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RE: Nightrider O2 IED's - Field Test - 5/20/2008 3:02:37 PM
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diebolt
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BCguy,
I have the same set up as you except I am running the XiED's. I have no popping at all and don't recall any when I was running the IED's. Make sure that your clamps are tourqued down to 70 Ft/Lbs. Also try the sealant like Cruiser said. My set up runs great.
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RE: Nightrider O2 IED's - Field Test - 5/20/2008 3:40:52 PM
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Rider57
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I have tested 3 different bikes that have the same rider compliant. "It's still hot", so they assume that the IED's /XiED's are not working.
On all 3 bikes ( 1-2007 Ultra and 2-2008 Ultras) the measured AFR was 13.8:1 with the XiED's and 14.2:1 with the IED's.
Measured exhaust temps, 2 inches above the O2 ports on the exhaust tube (not the covers) showed over 540F.
These readings were done at the lab and are within normal limits at AFR 14.7:1 (525F to 620F).
When we changed to a known premium gasoline the high heat was gone.
Exhaust temps then read 430F (low) 457 (high), AFR 13.8:1.
MAKE SURE you are getting the gas you are paying for and double check what additives they have in it!
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07 FLTR
LC1/WBO2
HTTC Heads
10.5:1
Jugs - .015
Night Prowler 408B BeltDrive cams
7 Speed Baker
124 HP 131Tq
Custom MAP (not sert)
0 to 60 = 4.1 sec
Top Speed = 144.8
08 FLHR
XIED
SERT MAP (custom)
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RE: Nightrider O2 IED's - Field Test - 5/20/2008 5:07:12 PM
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diebolt
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Rider57
I know that gas nationwide has all different blends but can you give us any idea of what brands we should be using. What additives should we be looking for and what do we need to stay away from?
Thanks for all your input in this thread you and the others have made us Very Happy Campers.
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V&H Slip On Ovals
XiED's
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RE: Nightrider O2 IED's - Field Test - 5/20/2008 5:34:06 PM
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diebolt
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Cruiser
Thanks for the info. I do use three different Mobil stations by my house on a regular basis. I will try out Chevron gas to see how that works.
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XiED's
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RE: Nightrider O2 IED's - Field Test - 5/20/2008 5:56:49 PM
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drichards
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Check out my post on my Xied install. Didn't notice the big temp drops but I installed slip-ons and K&N filter along with the enhancers and didn't gain in heat by leaning out. Bike runs much stronger now. Overdrive is usable below 70mph.
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RE: Nightrider O2 IED's - Field Test - 5/20/2008 6:41:52 PM
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BCguy
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Cruiser, I added the IED's the day after I got home from picking up the bike (a 160 mile run and it popped big time on decel). I felt that performance improved somewhat with the IED's so they were functioning but the decel popping was still there. Now that I'm working the bike a bit I also get popping between shifts when running hard up through the gears.
The dealer installed the Ovals but I've been wondering about leaks so I'm going to check the clamps tomorrow to ensure thay are tight and not sucking air. I understand how that causes problems. Also got some high temp silicon if needed.
Diebolt, glad to hear your setup works well and bye the way, I ordered a set of XIED's today so we'll see how that goes.
Thanks.
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RE: Nightrider O2 IED's - Field Test - 5/20/2008 7:52:10 PM
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GMul
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can you give us any idea of what brands we should be using.
Jim,
FWIW, the folllowing site discusses Top Tier gas. Click on "Retailers" to get a list of the brands meeting the specs.
http://www.toptiergas.com/index.html
Gary
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RE: Nightrider O2 IED's - Field Test - 5/20/2008 8:31:07 PM
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diebolt
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Gary,
Thanks, I saved that in my bookmarks. I guess I will be changing my local station to one on the list.
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V&H Slip On Ovals
XiED's
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RE: Nightrider O2 IED's - Field Test - 5/21/2008 4:39:05 AM
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gmeikle
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Chiming in again from Perth western Australia.I had posted earlier in this thread having installed IED's on my previous '07 FXSTC with great results.
I have a new '08 FXSTC Anniversary Softail Custom,done 700K's (450 miles?) since delivery last Monday 12th May. I had wanted to fit XiED's to this bike from new,but they arrived 3 days after I'd picked up the bike.
First thing I noticed with the new bike was how hot it ran compared to my just sold '07 which had had original IED's since January this year (high Aussie summer remember!). I had done 130K's as a "stock" bike with Khrome werks tapered slip on mufflers. As soon as I fitted the XiED's I had a "happier' bike. With a K&N HD-1499 stock replacement air filter the bike really boogies in acceleration and in freeway "roll-on" power pulls.With only 700K's I've not been balls out yet, but I can feel it "wants" to go. I've had it briefly on downhill stretches to 140 Km/H and it's nowhere near full revs in 6th.
THE International HDI bikes have flapper valves in the exhaust and intake tracts (now pissed off from day 1). Our airboxes then have a bigger air intake area than the stock US bikes I suspect. Our airboxes have effectively a forward facing "scoop" once you've ditched the sound reducing air intake flapper.
Fuel consumption so far has averaged 46 mpg (US gallon).( I had to convert that from Litres/100Km).
The bike is running on BP Ultimate 98 octane gas (no ethanol in this state yet).
Redline HD 20/60 in the oil tank
Redline Shockproof heavy gear oil,filled at an early 500K's oil change.
I have agreed with Steve at nightrider to perform and report on XiED's as fitted on HDI international models. In due course when I've done a few more K's and have the bike run in fully I will be doing just that. I will also keep this thread fully informed.
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RE: Nightrider O2 IED's - Field Test - 5/21/2008 4:45:00 AM
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HDDOC
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Took my Super trapps off my bike and installed them on my friends all stock FLHX also installed my XIEDs on his bike. With the same discs in each side as I had taken them off my bike his bike does not pop on upshifts or on decell, no popping whats so ever. I now believe the problem is running True Duells with the XIEDS or IEDs as I have tried both. His bike runs as good as mine was running ,less heat, better trottle response, but I did feel more heat from the cross over vs. the duells. I will most likely change back to stock headers. Doc
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RE: Nightrider O2 IED's - Field Test - 5/21/2008 4:48:26 AM
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kry226
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Hopefully this hasn't been covered before, but what is the difference between generation 1 and generation 2 XiEDs?
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