RE: O2 Sensor Inline Enrichment Device
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RE: O2 Sensor Inline Enrichment Device - 2/16/2008 12:00:19 PM
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fastfxrs
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Thanks Kricke, good advice. Do both ends of the cross over tube extend into the header pipe, or just inot the front pipe?
Tim
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RE: O2 Sensor Inline Enrichment Device - 2/16/2008 12:44:21 PM
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kk6pg
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quote:
ORIGINAL: Kricke
flube the pipe up real good, then saw of the intruding crossover end (mayby intruding not is a english word ; ).
Quite common mod on the baggers Y-pipe to gain 2-4 Hp and and get a cooler engine due to less restrictive header..
Kricke,
You speak better english than most Americans I know.
And yes, intruding is the perfect word for the obstruction. Makes you want to go kill it.....
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RE: O2 Sensor Inline Enrichment Device - 2/16/2008 2:17:16 PM
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Kricke
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He he yes if you have a "curved" hole saw you can do the rear pipe,, naa just pulling your leg here...
If you look on the crossover fittings on the rear header there is another type of mount welded and as far it was in my "old" wide glide -07 pipe there weren't any obstruction (learn't a new word from KK6Pg) to worry about.
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RE: O2 Sensor Inline Enrichment Device - 2/16/2008 2:19:44 PM
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Kricke
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ha ha yepp I thought about an intruder and then bend the word a bit...
//K
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RE: O2 Sensor Inline Enrichment Device - 2/19/2008 11:02:39 PM
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labfreak
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Installed my IED's today and took a ride,can't say I actually FEEL any real difference;smoother? maybe, and the engine seemed not as hot when Ipulled into the garage and shut down.
They are easy to put in, I had never looked at the front caddy so it took me some time to see how that came apart, the rear was a snap. I'll get a laser thermometer on it soon and see how the temps compare with what they are finding on the tech forum.
Thanks Kricke,for you help.
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RE: O2 Sensor Inline Enrichment Device - 2/20/2008 6:42:55 AM
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snuffer
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I've been following this thread with interest. My new Fat Bob doesn't arrive for another month, so I can't test these IED's myself yet, but in looking at the 08 Harley parts catolog I see that Harley offers 2 different oil caps with oil temp gauges on them (one is analog, the other is digital). Since these IED's were made by Nightrider to address the high engine temps associated with 06 and newer 96" motors I'm thinking a good check might be to invest in one of these oil caps with a temp gauge, and check the before and after oil temps with the IED's installed.
Ok, now under the "seemed like a good idea at the time" catagory, I just looked at the catalog again and it doesn't look like Harley offers a cap that fits the newer Dyna's.
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RE: O2 Sensor Inline Enrichment Device - 2/28/2008 9:13:00 PM
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labfreak
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OK, now last weekend I tooka 300mi round trip up the Columbia Gorge and I can say the IED's are an improvement at cruising speed, engine about 30 degres cooler ( i got a laser thermo) andmy gas mileage dropped fromm 44 to 42 mph.
Performance improves subtle but noticeable;
So I would recomend these. Bear in mind, I have the stg 1 download (opened up the rev limiter and more fuel on the high end ($150.00) and now $70.00 into these IEDs, so, for $230.00 I have a fuel mgmt system that works for me, yet it is not adjustable or anything like the fuelpacks, PCIII, etc.But I'm happy with the way I run now.
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RE: O2 Sensor Inline Enrichment Device - 2/29/2008 12:17:22 AM
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Kricke
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Labfreak
I'm happy that you are satisfied.
Keep your face in the wind.......
//K
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RE: O2 Sensor Inline Enrichment Device - 2/29/2008 8:55:28 AM
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db252
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I posted this in the Tech Forum but copied it here since it was relevant and you could see my personal results:
Things I have not noticed but doesn't mean they aren't/didn't happen:
- louder exhaust
- more performance
- temperature change....well maybe, but is it me just wishing it? Hell I don't know but I hope it is cooler.
Things I have noticed:
- low rpm surge is MUCH less if non-existent but I really went low to make it happen yet very noticeable change.
- spark plugs look much better. Not as white - can definitely see a color difference from before and I'm sure it would be better if I cleaned them more before the run.
- one thing that surprised me that I did notice and never really thought about is while moving at a low/midrange rpm in any of the gears the 'casual missing', you know, like you get sometimes when there is not really enough fuel in the mix for the spark to create an ignition which feels like a random dead spot, was also gone and made me really take notice.
So, just by these simple findings the IED's are doing something. Is it the best....no but for the cost the results are very impressive. I would say this is for those who don't want to spend money on a fuel manager and help their bike run at a healthier state be it only .5 richer in air/fuel ratio.
For the record, I have the SE Air Cleaner, a Stage 1 Download, and Rush 1.75 slip-ons.
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RE: O2 Sensor Inline Enrichment Device - 2/29/2008 10:16:56 PM
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labfreak
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Yep, my plugs look lite brown,not so white, I heard it is best to checkyr plugs after you run up at speed,cut your motor and pull over so you can see how they look after running, NOT idling.
Tech Forum as some other good data on these IED's good investment for the $ IMO.
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RE: O2 Sensor Inline Enrichment Device - 4/10/2008 11:07:30 AM
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labfreak
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bump
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RE: O2 Sensor Inline Enrichment Device - 5/19/2008 4:28:42 PM
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Blaster
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Anyone tried the DYN Oied's that are for the 06 year only? I'm thinking about giving them a try but can't decide.
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RE: O2 Sensor Inline Enrichment Device - 5/19/2008 5:16:35 PM
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BigRitchieKona
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Just put mine on. Saturday went for a ride and noticed a big difference. I have an 06 street bob with a Big Sucker and Cycle Shack Slip-Ons. I had a pop twice on decel, noticed that I was cruising at 80 mph in 5th gear very smooth, cooler engine (even though the day was burning hot) and all around better performance. My check engine light did come on for about 15 seconds or so and just switched off. All in all, I am very happy with everything. I even check my plugs and they looked great.
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RE: O2 Sensor Inline Enrichment Device - 5/19/2008 6:19:11 PM
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Blaster
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BRK was the check engine light a one time thing, or every time you have ridden?
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RE: O2 Sensor Inline Enrichment Device - 5/19/2008 10:46:04 PM
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labfreak
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If your engine light went on, then you probably have ECM codes: Here is how to check:
Turn everything off, turn your start/safety switch to ON
Hold the button on behind your speedo
while holding the button down, turn on your ignition (with key)
Your speedo needle will do a sweep, and you will go into Diag mode,
P 5 55
hold button when each one comes up and check for your error codes:
P0131/P0151 are usually the ones
( DOa search on ECM codes, for better,more complete instructions)
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RE: O2 Sensor Inline Enrichment Device - 5/20/2008 9:03:30 AM
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first dyna 07
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Sound to good , after reading all I bought it :) get not wait
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RE: O2 Sensor Inline Enrichment Device - 5/20/2008 9:39:27 AM
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BigRitchieKona
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thanks for all the advice. i'll be sure to check the codes.
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RE: O2 Sensor Inline Enrichment Device - 5/20/2008 12:00:42 PM
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labfreak
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Since I started this thread, I should explain what I have found since I first installed my IED's:
Before I installed my 2-1 pipes I had stage 1 download, cycleshack slip-ons and the K&N hiflow airfilter, I did not get any ECM codes and the bike ran better with IEDs.
I installed the PYTHON 2-1 and no other changes, I got the ECM codes P0131/P0151 indicating "lean conditions"
I took off the IEDs and the codes went away.( Obviously, the codes are due to the IEDs)
I told Steve at Nightrider about this, he sent me a new pair of IEDs: I still got codes.
Steve sent me a pair of DYN o2 IEDs: I still got codes (my bike is an 07 Dyna)
Steve sent me Xieds: I still get codes, but bike runs good with Xieds so I just leave them on and not get too worred about the ECM codes.
SO, my guess is that there is smething about the 2-1 pipes/IED combination that causes these codes to appear, but that there is nothing really wrong....I hope...my plugs look fine and the bike definitely feels like it is running better with the IEDs.
Steve told me h is looking into this.
BTW, most of the rave reviews come from baggers with stock intake and mybe they added slip-ons.
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K&N Hi-flo A/C
Python 2-1 exhaust
Stg 1 download and XIED''s
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RE: O2 Sensor Inline Enrichment Device - 5/21/2008 3:38:21 PM
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sigmoid
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Definitely runs better at low RPM's with IED's installed and better roll-on response at cruising speeds. the results seem to be highly variable depending on your exact setup, it appears that the FLH benefits more from the XIED's while the Dyna line responds about the same with either, though if you have a full exhaust system as opposed to just slip-ons you may be better off with the XIED on the Dyna. I tried both the IED and XIED and didn't see much difference., I've got SE slip-ons and stage I intake/download. I got the most performance gain from adding the slip-ons and the regular IED's. Adding the SE intake and download did nothing aside from a bit higher idle speed and, presumably, a higher rev limit (I'll likely never hit). I'd go back to the stock intake setup except I like the little round air cleaner I've got on it now. That '08 cover is a monstrosity in my opinion.
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