View Full Version : Clemens....Guity or Not


sparky_mo
02-13-2008, 05:18 PM
After listening today to the Clemens hearing how many think he is guilty of using steroids and HGH?

Wecroft
02-13-2008, 06:27 PM
Don't really care. Congress should stick to more important stuff and stay the heck out of sports. If these bumbs want to blow their hearts out with steroids, so be it.

wideglide95th
02-13-2008, 06:32 PM
ORIGINAL: Wecroft

Don't really care. Congress should stick to more important stuff and stay the heck out of sports. If these bumbs want to blow their hearts out with steroids, so be it.


I agree!! Too much tax money wasted on chit like this. PLAY BALL!

macatak39
02-13-2008, 08:29 PM
i agree just let em play ball

Eyeball Kid
02-14-2008, 03:50 AM
ORIGINAL: Wecroft

Don't really care. Congress should stick to more important stuff and stay the heck out of sports. If these bumbs want to blow their hearts out with steroids, so be it.


Normally, I would agree.

But the thing is, Clemens ASKED for his day. He WANTED a chance to clear himself.

Now, he looks like a total putz.

He had no idea McNamee shot his wife full of HGH? Cut it out. Yer killin' me. His wife has a bad reaction to said shots, and he knows "nothing" about the drug, but does not take her to the emergancy room? Yer killin' me over here.


Do you really expect us to believe that Pettitte would go before Congress, under oath, and lie about his best friend Roger Clemens?

Or that he would "mis-remember" something that important?

Remember this; "I have never done steroids. Period"

Then Rafael Palmerio was suspended for drug use?

BLKXL12C
02-14-2008, 11:26 AM
He asked he came and he lied! So what he is saying is that everone is lying but him! I loved the stuff about his wife getting the stuff also, so were did she get the idea to take it? He has always been a jackazz.

Wecroft
02-14-2008, 02:04 PM
Still does not answer the question of why our tax dollars are being wasted with this ****? The country is at war on two fronts and according to the same Democrats that head this board the economy is in the dumpster, education is in dire need of overhaul and the world is heating up. Don't they have enough to do? What makes a ballplayer so special that he asks for and is granted a hearing before a Congressional board? Let the commissioner of baseball deal with this junk.

swestbrook60
02-15-2008, 08:26 AM
I'm undecided on this issue. First of all, if he is innocent what would you expect him to say to these allegations?

Then it bothers me that the proof he did take them is the word of a man who has changed his story every time he has talked to somebody over the years and the memory of Petitte who was not there to answer questions. I doubt I could remember a conversation I had 10 years ago regardless of the subject matter. I might remember Clemens admitting he took the drugs, but to be able to name the date and where we had the conversation is a litle far fetched for me to believe. Sounds like the prosecutors in this have been doing as little suggestive selling to all of the participants.

Why would the guy save the syringes and cotton swabs? What reason would an ex-cop save the evidense aginst himself to start with? Blackmail? Book deal?

Seems to me with all the MRIs and other medical tests there must be records ofClemens over the span of his career, it should be possible to determine if there has been a significant change in muscle mass during the period he is accused of having taken the drugs. You can definately see the change in Barry Bonds as his body grew dramtically in size while Clemens appears to have remained pretty much the same.

If this is the evidense they have against him, almost entirely hear-say that can't be admitted into a real court anyway, then I think we have to say he is innocent since you cannot find him guilty.

shortfatboy
02-15-2008, 11:50 AM
taking in the whole picture...yeah, guilty

Geoff
02-17-2008, 02:25 PM
Guilty as hell. The eyes never lie.

2blackbelts
02-29-2008, 02:58 PM
Guilty, many times over.

2 bb

Matty64
03-01-2008, 08:00 AM
guilty but as others have said Congress should keep their noses out of it, they have enough to worry about than if a bunch of overpaid snotnosed prima donnas thatshot themselves up with chit that is going to shrink their nads to peanuts and most likely kill them.

rbcss
03-15-2008, 06:59 AM
ORIGINAL: Wecroft

Don't really care. Congress should stick to more important stuff and stay the heck out of sports. If these bumbs want to blow their hearts out with steroids, so be it.


I agree don't care. this whole thing is a he said she said thing. wasting millions of tax dollars on something that's nobody really about when it's all said and done. they will drag this out for years just to say the Mitchell Report MIGHT have someerrors in it.

jaystone
03-15-2008, 07:42 AM
This comes out and in one week Congress has him testifying, then when it comes to something important it take years. I hate politics! But if the guy lied under oath he should be treated just like everyone else. I would have to say guilty.

loudguy_w_louderpipe
04-01-2008, 06:10 PM
I think Clemens did it.
I also think there are bigger issues in the world & Congress needs to stick to serious issues.
Bottom line - I think you test positive you are gone.
No second chances. MLB, NBA, NFL or anywhere else.

You make that kind of money, you should be able to go to the gym & workout.

Government tries to tell us how do everything.
Aren't we a free country?
I'm tired of being told how to enjoy my freedom.

Drodd8
05-14-2008, 08:47 PM
...and he evidently likes young girls too........[&:]

Tall Mike
05-18-2008, 07:25 PM
He's guilty....You have roided up pitchers throwing to roided up hitters, its a wash.....

buldog21
05-27-2008, 10:51 PM
Clemens....Guity or Not



Guity? Is he Guity? I don't know what that means.

But I do think he is Guilty.

Andy

drfeelgood
05-29-2008, 05:23 PM
Guilty. Nail his arse.