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We need motorcycle activist section. - 2/15/2008 8:28:18 AM   
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I am sure that this will be placed in the political forum after awhile. But I am serious! We need to Motorcycle Activist forum where members can take part in their rights as motorcycle riders. We have a lot of members here and we should be a loud voice.


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RE: We need motorcycle activist section. - 2/15/2008 8:30:13 AM   
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+1 1/2 tang  Safety in numbers, birds do it, bees do it, why shouldn't we do it?

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RE: We need motorcycle activist section. - 2/15/2008 8:32:13 AM   
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I'm thinking instead of sitting on the sidelines and complaining about it, we should be doing something about it.


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RE: We need motorcycle activist section. - 2/15/2008 10:08:33 AM   
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bump this post...+1

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RE: We need motorcycle activist section. - 2/15/2008 10:14:19 AM   
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Correct me if I am wrong but ... Isn't this whole forum an activist site.

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RE: We need motorcycle activist section. - 2/15/2008 10:19:46 AM   
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No it isn't.
It for information about HD and riding in general.

I am talking about posting upcoming issues, past issues within our governments local and federal. Contacts for these agencies.

Working with other motorcycle agencies.



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RE: We need motorcycle activist section. - 2/15/2008 10:19:55 AM   
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that would be good.  I just joined CBA/ABATE of NC.  They have a pretty good agenda, not just trying to get rid of a helmet law like most, but trying to instill motorcycle awareness in the state driver training programs.  Informing the soon to be drivers that there really ARE motorcycles out there and what to watch for!  What a concept.  Thay have already had the local govm't put up "look out for motorcycles" signs up at some precarious intersections.

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RE: We need motorcycle activist section. - 2/15/2008 10:26:07 AM   
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quote:

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that would be good.  I just joined CBA/ABATE of NC.  They have a pretty good agenda, not just trying to get rid of a helmet law like most, but trying to instill motorcycle awareness in the state driver training programs.  Informing the soon to be drivers that there really ARE motorcycles out there and what to watch for!  What a concept.  Thay have already had the local govm't put up "look out for motorcycles" signs up at some precarious intersections.

Great.

Our local ABATE meets once per month. A lot of people don't go to meetings, this leaves a lot of us out in the dark.

A forum section for all Motorcycle activists would be seriously powerful if ran right.
IE who to write letters to. What phones numbers for what agencies.
What is the newest bill/legeslation is being concidered or not.

Some place that all of this can fit under.

Something to get us involved.


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RE: We need motorcycle activist section. - 2/15/2008 10:29:13 AM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: Yellotang

No it isn't.
It for information about HD and riding in general.

I am talking about posting upcoming issues, past issues within our governments local and federal. Contacts for these agencies.

Working with other motorcycle agencies.




I'm talking about the same thing. There is often discussion about the exact same things you mentioned ... at least internally.  The only thing missing is outside contact with the agencies you mention. 

I think this is a great idea, by the way! What better way to get a collective understanding of motorcyle safety and a means to help the 'cause'.



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RE: We need motorcycle activist section. - 2/15/2008 10:48:41 AM   
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RE: We need motorcycle activist section. - 2/15/2008 10:52:30 AM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: Yellotang

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ORIGINAL: glebo

that would be good.  I just joined CBA/ABATE of NC.  They have a pretty good agenda, not just trying to get rid of a helmet law like most, but trying to instill motorcycle awareness in the state driver training programs.  Informing the soon to be drivers that there really ARE motorcycles out there and what to watch for!  What a concept.  Thay have already had the local govm't put up "look out for motorcycles" signs up at some precarious intersections.

Great.

Our local ABATE meets once per month. A lot of people don't go to meetings, this leaves a lot of us out in the dark.

A forum section for all Motorcycle activists would be seriously powerful if ran right.
IE who to write letters to. What phones numbers for what agencies.
What is the newest bill/legeslation is being concidered or not.

Some place that all of this can fit under.

Something to get us involved.



Good idea... are you gonna hold the position and post the info? I am sure there are a lot of ABATE members here that would like to keep current on the legal issues. Great idea ;)

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RE: We need motorcycle activist section. - 2/15/2008 11:06:10 AM   
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ORIGINAL: Yellotang

I am sure that this will be placed in the political forum after awhile. But I am serious! We need to Motorcycle Activist forum where members can take part in their rights as motorcycle riders. We have a lot of members here and we should be a loud voice.


Agree.

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RE: We need motorcycle activist section. - 2/15/2008 12:14:34 PM   
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Wouldn't a prominent link to the AMA and ABATE sites serve this purpose?

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RE: We need motorcycle activist section. - 2/15/2008 5:00:02 PM   
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Even though most of you, on this board, are American and I'm Canadian I think we, as "bikers", "motorcycle enthusiasts” or whatever have a lot of the same beliefs. Your government is doing the same to you as my government is doing to “us”. If we could get over the chaps, fingerless gloves, who’s a real biker / who’s a rub issues and stood together then I think we would be heard, there are allot of “us”.
In Ontario we’ve already lost our right of due process, freedom of speech and freedom of association. They have made the police accuser, judge / jury and executioner and we cannot even appeal their decision. Even arguing with a cop can bring a $250.00 to $5000.00 fine, the amount is set by the cop you argue with and there is no recourse, whatever he/she says, your fined. There is NO trial, NO appeal, just pay and do as your told.
For us it may be to late, DO NOT let it happen down there. I’ve been trying to inform people, get them to vote, get off their asses and do something, but up here we are a country of sheeple, nobody wants to do anything because the law only effects a few select groups (so they think) and they, the government, would never apply these laws to everyone else. We have the most honest cops and there is not one that would use the power of their badge to further their own agendas (yea, right).
Stand together while you can and make your opinions heard.

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RE: We need motorcycle activist section. - 2/15/2008 6:59:58 PM   
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I agree!

I will do my very best. I will try to to get information and contact info as well.

Has anyone ever seen the numbersUSA website? The actually have a clickable bulletin board that sends faxes out to congressmen/women and seneters with premade information. A kind of click here and we will send out the info for you sight.

I don't think we can do this yet(?) but at least someplace where we can see what the issues are and who to contact. And how to contact.

Our voice can have the potential to be really loud and I think we should give it a shot.


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RE: We need motorcycle activist section. - 2/17/2008 6:07:56 PM   
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www.mrf.org is the website for the Motorcycle Rider's Foundation. The MRF is the voice of ABATE and other SMRO's regarding federal issues. Every SMRO has an agenda that goes beyond fighting helmet laws, but there's enough riders (this forum included) that don't look past the prejudicial evaluation of "the anti-helmet harley guys" ABATE of Illinois goes beyond other ABATEs in the area in the fact that the majority of issues over the last 7-8 years have been regarding off-road issues. Surrounding states have separate organizations regarding dirtbikes and ATV's. Tang, WORRA is a supporting member of the MRF as well.

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RE: We need motorcycle activist section. - 2/17/2008 8:58:27 PM   
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good idea it could include updates on state laws and what admendments people our tring to pass behind our backs

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RE: We need motorcycle activist section. - 2/18/2008 8:07:44 AM   
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ORIGINAL: chiabate

www.mrf.org is the website for the Motorcycle Rider's Foundation. The MRF is the voice of ABATE and other SMRO's regarding federal issues. Every SMRO has an agenda that goes beyond fighting helmet laws, but there's enough riders (this forum included) that don't look past the prejudicial evaluation of "the anti-helmet harley guys" ABATE of Illinois goes beyond other ABATEs in the area in the fact that the majority of issues over the last 7-8 years have been regarding off-road issues. Surrounding states have separate organizations regarding dirtbikes and ATV's. Tang, WORRA is a supporting member of the MRF as well.

Awesome! Good job.

Thanx for the link.


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RE: We need motorcycle activist section. - 2/18/2008 3:34:45 PM   
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I've personally had great conversations with the MRF pres. Hardtail, VP in D.C. Hennie and VP Boz is a personal friend of mine for many years. We worked many campaigns together whether it was ringing doorbells, putting up yard signs, passing leaflets at commuter stations, etc. I can't help but stress to spare a couple hours away from the bar or whatever to work a campaign. Try to scrape up the dough to buy a $100 a plate dinner so you can rub the right elbows. This shows you mean business and puts a face on the other end of the phone when you need to state your point of view on any issue. I have an upcoming legislative day while many will be at Daytona, with as many officials that I have to see, many times I only get to chat with the receptionist until the later hosted cocktails. Guess who answers the phone when you call about an upcoming piece of legislation? Guess who's vote yes on HB..../SB.... or no on.... gets logged? Almost all have some type of common ground with you, thats just sales/diplomacy 101. At last year's reception, I was throwing a few back with a senator who pushed a helmet bill several years back. We staged an awareness ride which featured a pose of about 100 bikers in front of his office next to his name sign flipping him the bird! It was supposed to be private, but one passenger from the HOG chapter was a journalism student and had the photo published in her college newletter. Which he got a copy of! The look on his face was priceless when I told him I was the organizer and picked his office for the ride. I also staged the photo.

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RE: We need motorcycle activist section. - 2/25/2008 11:15:23 AM   
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So, how's the prospect looking?

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RE: We need motorcycle activist section. - 2/25/2008 11:20:20 AM   
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No clue. I am waiting for something to present itself.
I see al lot of issues being presented on the board but it would be nic e to have one area to post them to.


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RE: We need motorcycle activist section. - 2/25/2008 11:26:38 AM   
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Good idea! It would be fairly easy to have links to other motorcycle activist groups. The information would be a click away.

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RE: We need motorcycle activist section. - 2/25/2008 11:44:26 AM   
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It would definitely streamline things. Instead of having to look in Off, General, and even many model-specifics for a lot of the related announcements/topics. Anyone contact DynaMike? 

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RE: We need motorcycle activist section. - 3/6/2008 7:35:47 PM   
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Well, another annual Legislative Day event has passed. If you have the opportunity in your state for something similar, do it in a heartbeat. So much valuable face time, many sit down chats with legislators that can make differences, and then the cocktails. I had a Senator and 2 Representatives constantly feeding me Knob Creeks that the 3 hour drive home was no longer an option. An open bed in one of the rooms reserved took care of that. The senator I referred to in an earlier post gave me his cel phone# so we could go riding now that he got rid of his nagging wife and has a new Road King ordered! The chapters further north from me didn't send any members, so I took care of their districts and managed to build a bridge with a former staunch enemy. Time well spent!

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RE: We need motorcycle activist section. - 3/6/2008 8:02:07 PM   
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Nice work!  I recently sent an idea to my state Rep & Sen about harsher penalties for motorists who hit motorcycles - if the motorist was at fault and was found to be using an electronic device (phone, texting, ipod, whatever) that the penalties be equal to that of a DUI.  I actually asked him to hold off until we get a state budget!

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RE: We need motorcycle activist section. - 3/7/2008 9:22:50 AM   
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Pat, Ray Heck did a great job covering your area. You might want to touch base with him. One revision I would recommend to increase the appeal is to include bicyclists and pedestrians, the last thing we want is anything specific to just motorcycles. It opens Pandora's box on sound and licensing issues, we just fought off a proposal REQUIRING a purchaser to have an M endorsement. Many bikes and scooters are bought by someone for someone else.

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RE: We need motorcycle activist section. - 3/7/2008 9:56:18 AM   
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Why? This forum as a whole likes to talk the talk, but not walk the walk.

If you are going to start, then become an active member of your states ABATE. Not just a member, I said active member.

So far here in SC we have remained lidless for riders over 21. We have reduced property taxes on motorcycles. Actively seeking a red light law and legislation concerning when a bike is hit.

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RE: We need motorcycle activist section. - 3/7/2008 12:33:31 PM   
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Active is a term I agree with and do whatever I can to be that way. Once in a while, it's great to throw a few back with members of government instead of the same ol people with the same ol gripes at the local. St. Patties is right around the corner, who here is riding one of their local parades? Most politicians participate in such parades, getting to know them before the parade starts is valuable. Barack Obama came up to me one year when I was working the crowd asking me where the ABATE float was. He wasn't even the frontrunner in his party's nomination for senator yet. You just never know.

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RE: We need motorcycle activist section. - 3/7/2008 12:50:50 PM   
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I don't know if you guys noticed or not but this thread is in the new Motorcycle Activist section.

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RE: We need motorcycle activist section. - 4/8/2008 5:02:14 AM   
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well lets do it and see where it goes.maybe just maybe we can make a differnce.

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