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RE: Voyager Trike Kit ? - 5/8/2008 10:53:41 AM   
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Bryan....Are you rear shocks on the kit on the 3rd hole from the rear? I had mine on the 2nd hole and it was bouncing around also.

Also, air up shocks on your bike as far as you can go.

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RE: Voyager Trike Kit ? - 5/8/2008 12:55:12 PM   
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I'll check tonight Barbara.  Thanks.


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RE: Voyager Trike Kit ? - 5/8/2008 12:56:38 PM   
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I run 40 in the rear tire of my bike and 20 in the Voyager
Kit tires. I run my air shocks at about 3/4 max which is around
36psi on the Nomad and it has 4 dampening settings and I'm
runnin it on #3.
Make sure your pre-load is right.  You'd need a 1/2 inch.


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RE: Voyager Trike Kit ? - 5/8/2008 1:08:54 PM   
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Dano, my rear tire is 40lbs, my air shocks max at 30lbs.  I'll check the kit tires.  I wanted to check the preload first, but will have to wait a few more weeks.  I am "temporarily physically challenged"  as my wife calls it.


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RE: Voyager Trike Kit ? - 5/8/2008 2:27:24 PM   
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Sorry to hear you're under the weather.  Having the right
Pre-Load makes a big difference.  The dealer that set
installed mine set it at a 1/4 inch when it should have been
1/2. Putting it right helped the handling and the bounce
for me.


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RE: Voyager Trike Kit ? - 5/9/2008 6:30:10 AM   
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Barbara,  I don't have holes on each side for my shocks.  Mine has a 3 inch slotted rail for adjustment.  It is in the most rearward position.   I need to get the installation manual from the dealer.

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RE: Voyager Trike Kit ? - 5/9/2008 6:35:10 AM   
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I almost forgot,  I checked all my tire pressures again.  I must have missed the kit tires last weekend before I rode.  The front tire was 38lbs, the rear was 40lbs, the shocks 30lbs but the kit tires were 42 and 40?   Max pressure for mounting is 40lbs.   I lowered them to 30lbs.  Made a huge difference on the bounce.  Thanks. 


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RE: Voyager Trike Kit ? - 5/9/2008 12:40:01 PM   
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Max for the Kit tires is 20lb psi.  That could have a lot to do with
your bounce problem.  Email me at deredmon@highland.net and I'll
send you the Pre-Load instructions that has the max tire pressure in RED plus the pre-load data you need.
File's to big to upload on this site.
Put MTC Voyager in the Subject so I don't delete it as spam.

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RE: Voyager Trike Kit ? - 5/9/2008 4:09:17 PM   
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What's 'pre-load' guys? Myabe I'm missing something here.

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RE: Voyager Trike Kit ? - 5/9/2008 4:16:21 PM   
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Pre-Load sets the amount of lean you are suppose to get
depending on the weight of the bike. Mine was set wrong
when installed and when I set it right, it made one hell of
a difference in the handling of my bike.  It's easy to do
really.  Send me an email and I'll send you the instructions
if you need them.
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RE: Voyager Trike Kit ? - 5/9/2008 8:35:40 PM   
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Dano,

E-mail sent. Thanks.

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RE: Voyager Trike Kit ? - 5/9/2008 9:26:51 PM   
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You can go on the Voyager site and get some really good preload instructions, I preloaded my Utra at a half inch to start and increased it o 3/4 of inch at the end.  It made a big difference in the way the bike handled.                                 

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RE: Voyager Trike Kit ? - 5/10/2008 4:41:31 AM   
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I got 2 emails last night and answered them.  Don't know if
you were one of them or not.  If not try again.  This new spam
service my provider has catches a lot of emails from people
I regularly email with and I and my provider can't seem to
figure out a fix without allowing everything thru.

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RE: Voyager Trike Kit ? - 5/12/2008 4:35:06 PM   
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Bryan, I meant the rails to the shocks....there's four holes (I think). I had my shocks on the 2nd hole and then moved to the 3rd hole. Made a big different in ride.

Dano, Didn't receive anything on Pre-Load???

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RE: Voyager Trike Kit ? - 5/12/2008 5:40:34 PM   
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Barbara, email me at deredmon@highland.net  I sent them to Bryan
and someone else.  I'll be more than glad to send them to you.
Ride safe,
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RE: Voyager Trike Kit ? - 5/13/2008 1:18:59 PM   
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dw,  each time I scroll through here I see a beautiful red trike.  I sure get the urge?    When you changed your preload to 3/4 inch, didn't it take away some of your lean ability? 

The more you preload, would seem to me it would tighten up the suspension even more? 

Dano's instructions for preloading were great.  Much easier with a picture or two.  Thanks Dano.

I am going to lower my tire pressure to 20 lbs like Dano and the instructions say.  Mine is riding better every day.  I hope 20 lbs air pressure will make it Even better.

Barbara,  you have mentioned the possibility of sheering the front mounting bolt?  Mine is a 1" grade 8 bolt.  I can't imagine  breaking it.  Have other people done it?  I may need to slow down in the corners.

I have started physical therapy.  I am not a happy camper when I leave their office.  If I mis-spell a word or ramble on,  blame it on the Lortab pills I am swallowing.


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RE: Voyager Trike Kit ? - 5/13/2008 4:07:48 PM   
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20# air in kit tires...thought mine said 40#? Haven't had a problem with air pressure, but will check 'em before heading to Shasta on the 29th.



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RE: Voyager Trike Kit ? - 5/13/2008 4:28:16 PM   
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Email rcvd and instructions sent

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RE: Voyager Trike Kit ? - 5/13/2008 4:41:38 PM   
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The 3/4 inch preload was intentional to take out the outward lean in the corners that makes you feel like you are going to be thrown off. I was hoping to get a more secure feel to it. I also was trying to find out how hard you could go in corners without breaking something. I am sure you would break the u-bolts before you broke the one inch bolts. I had also talked to someone who had seen a Voyager let go on a bike  and said it wasn't pretty.  Of course, I don't know if bolts were kept tight and checked regularly either. I would think that would definately be part of a preride inspection. My books also said 20 lbs. of air pressure in the Voyager tires. I put more in the right tire (22 lbs.)  and 20 in the left to try and compensate for the crown in the road. Not sure it helped or not. My shocks were in the hole that made them as straight up and down as possible. I also made sure the springs were set an equal distance from the the bike . I can not say enough about the way  the new Trike rides. I corner as good as my friends on two wheels. Put 500 miles on last weekend and enjoyed every minute. I can turn it around in the midle of a two lane highway with room to spare. I haven't needed reverse yet but am careful where I park. I really like having a six gallon tank. The wife says shefeels so much more secure and is able to relax and enjoy the ride again. Ii averaged 39 mpg on the last run as the motor is starting to break in. I'll be glad when I don't have to keep varying the speed and can ride and use the cruise control. I sure look forward to making the first run over the Beartooth Mountain Pass. We've had so much snow that they are hoping they can get theroad open by Memorial Weekend. You go from 5000 feet to 11,000 feet in about 20 miles. Lots of twists and turns. Hope to meet you all out on the road.
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RE: Voyager Trike Kit - 5/15/2008 7:13:00 AM   
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I had to search through the posts to find the answer.  WCking (Paul) said he changed the hose clamp to a fabricated U-bolt.  After looking under the frame of the kit, that part is the only one I could see that could fail?  
Paul, do you have any dimensions or pictures of this u-bolt?  I am starting to get braver on cornering and need to be secure going through them.   I don't want to slow down too much.
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RE: Voyager Trike Kit - 6/6/2008 6:04:34 AM   
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Good morning everyone, \\; just passed 1000 miles with the kit. \\; \\;All the adjustments \\;have been \\;completed and fine tuned. \\; Now I just ride and hang on. \\; Everybody was correct on getting used to it. \\; \\; After my arms and butt got in shape, \\; my mind soon followed. \\;
My best investment was a drivers backrest. \\; Takes a lot of the pressure off my back and arms going through the big turns. \\; \\; Ride safe.
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I have only one complaint. \\; Why do I hit every pothole in the state? \\; \\; Those extra two tires?
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RE: Voyager Trike Kit - 6/6/2008 2:43:00 PM   
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We love ours. \\; I ride my Ultra all week but come the weekend
and the wife wants the trike.


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RE: Voyager Trike Kit - 6/7/2008 7:48:38 PM   
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Got home Monday the 2nd from the Pacific Rally in Mt. Shasta....1,392 miles. Rode down by myself. Five of us left Shasta Sunday morning, up Hwy 97 to Bend. Took a side trip to Crater Lake. Rode from Bend to home solo. Sure glad local voyager dealer fixed my kit.

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RE: Voyager Trike Kit - 6/8/2008 8:59:35 AM   
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"Sure glad local voyager dealer fixed my kit."
What''d the dealer do?????
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RE: Voyager Trike Kit - 6/8/2008 2:01:50 PM   
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Shocks were installed in the inside instead of the outside of the rails. U-clamp was barely hanging and worn to a frog''s hair! Very dangerous. All fixed before trekking to Shasta.

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RE: Voyager Trike Kit - 6/8/2008 2:11:52 PM   
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I bet that did make a difference. \\; Inside the rail is for scooters,
not bikes. \\; How close to vertical are your shocks? \\; Mine were
set at about the middle of the slot, probably about 15 to 20 degree angle. \\; I moved them to about 10 degrees and found
that it rides a lot better.
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RE: Voyager Trike Kit - 6/9/2008 8:48:30 AM   
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Glad you made it back safely. \\; That would have been a long trip for me. \\; Got any pics of the trip?
I guess I''m a peabrain, \\; what are the rails your talking about? \\; My last computer crash took out my ability to play DVDs. \\; My installation DVD won''t work.
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All I can see is the frame, leaf springs and shock mounts?
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I hope this will finally post.


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RE: Voyager Trike Kit ? - 6/9/2008 6:56:02 PM   
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Just sharing a pic of my bearings from above with no weight on the bike.

Probably this was the best alteration I have done.





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RE: Voyager Trike Kit ? - 6/25/2008 12:21:06 PM   
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Hello everyone. \\; I guess I''ll get my first chance to ride in a thunder storm today with my voyager kit. \\; Looks like the clouds just set in. \\; I''ll put on the rain suit and head out. \\; Wish me luck.


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RE: Voyager Trike Kit ? - 6/25/2008 12:47:46 PM   
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Holy moly, thunder storm? Riding? Be careful. If you see lightning, count 1001,1002, etc. until you hear the thunder...that will tell you how far away the lightning really is.

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RE: Voyager Trike Kit ? - 6/25/2008 1:13:07 PM   
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I get off from work in 20 minutes. \\; We have only had a 10 to 20% chance of rain? \\; I need to wash the bugs off my bike. \\; \\;

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