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bdn56 03-04-2008, 10:13 AM Good morning forum members. I have tried the search function for trike kits and can not get the answers I need. I purchased a 2007 Ultra Classic last month. I want to install a trike kit. I can not spend the $10,000 to $15,000 for one. I saw where a few members have the voyager kit. Can anyone give me the up's and down's on that particular kit? I am unable to ride anymore without some type of kit. Thanks.
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grimm 03-04-2008, 10:48 AM there are a few members, here, that can help you with that info. good luck!
if you don't mind me askin, why are you unable to ride 2 wheels, anymore?
bdn56 03-04-2008, 11:23 AM I had a minor spill with the wife a few weeks ago. My knee and tibia were crushed. Now I have some cadaver bone with a plate and several screws throughout my leg. The doctor says my bone density is very low and recommended no more riding. I have 2 harleys sitting in my garage collecting dust. I am selling my superglide and trying to come up with a lower priced trike kit to keep riding. I have been off work for 3 weeks now. I can't stand on it yet but give me a couple more weeks or months and I'll be as good as new.
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sleepneagle 03-04-2008, 11:45 AM I know three people that have the voyager kit. it works for them and is an economical way to go. Except for one area. The rear tire tends to wear out in 5,000 miles. The voyager kit seems to eat the third tire up.
Spudster 03-04-2008, 12:09 PM Hi all....I have a Voyager Conversion Kit on my '06 Electra-Glide Classic. Purchased in April from Baker City, OR dealer. The cost was $4,800 which included whitewall tires, chrome wheels and tombstone lights.
No, it does not 'eat' upyourthe tires on either bike or kit! I don't power through corners or hotrod either. Takes about 5 minutes to get the hang of riding w/kit....steer thru corners..no lean.
If you google Voyager Conversion Kit, you will find their web site (think it's under MTC). They make kits for every motorcycle made. Great Customer Service also. You can click on dealers once you're on the site...to find one in your particular area.
Word of caution....Moco will not honor your 2-yr or Extended Warranty once you attach the Kit to your motorcycle! At least that's what they told me. Might be a bluff, but it's not a HD factory install.
grimm 03-04-2008, 12:24 PM ORIGINAL: bdn56
I had a minor spill with the wife a few weeks ago. My knee and tibia were crushed. Now I have some cadaver bone with a plate and several screws throughout my leg. The doctor says my bone density is very low and recommended no more riding. I have 2 harleys sitting in my garage collecting dust. I am selling my superglide and trying to come up with a lower priced trike kit to keep riding. I have been off work for 3 weeks now. I can't stand on it yet but give me a couple more weeks or months and I'll be as good as new.
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i commend your courage to get back on. good luck and don't let anybody discourage you!
oldmanjob 03-04-2008, 12:42 PM We have the Voyager kit attached to a 2003 883 hugger Sportster. We bought the bike withthe kit already installed. We have been pleased with the kit so far, but have come to the realization that we are going to have to rake the front end 3 degrees to make it easer to steer on winding roads. Also the 883 lacks power on steep hills so we are looking into re-gearing, or going as far as adding a 1200 kit. It is a snap to remove or re-attach the kit. But we found out the hard way with the hugger Sportster that we had to remove the front mounting bracket in order to ride without the kit. My son took the bike to work the first day we removed the kit but left the front mounting bracket on. Making a slow turn off a main road onto a side road he found himself lying scraped up on the ground, as there was not enough ground clearance, and dumped his mom's bike[sm=oopssign.gif]For the money you get the best of both worlds, andI believe they are having a sale on them this month. We also advised MTC that they need to make a note when selling kit to any hugger type models that is is wise to remove bracket.
My wife has a growing interest in the Can-Am Spyder, so only time will tell. The Sporty might be going up onthe auction block.
btefft 03-04-2008, 01:11 PM Welcome to our forum.
Voyager is good. You may also want to take a look at the Insta-trike kit.
http://www.tow-pacinc.com/
Hack
bdn56 03-04-2008, 02:54 PM Thanks for the replys so far. This site is sure to help me get through my transition. I know most of you out there have gone through much more than I am having to do. I commend you all. Thanks again.
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08Fatty 03-04-2008, 08:27 PM I just installed the insta-trike on my moms Virago. Not hard to install and rides pretty good. Can't comment on the Voyager though.
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08Fatty 03-04-2008, 08:32 PM Check out this link. I think Voyager offers more to dress them up than Tow-pac does, but the people I've talked to that have ridden both say Insta-trike has a more stable feel.
http://www.hdforums.com/m_2837032/tm.htm
oldmanjob 03-05-2008, 07:36 AM I do not know about thestable feel of the Insta-trike, but being my other bike is a Triumph BonnevilleI have at times pushed the voyager to its limits and have found it very stable and a hoot to drive[sm=smiley20.gif]
wcking 03-06-2008, 05:35 AM I've had my 06 RKC for 7500 miles with the Voyager kit and no problems so far. I wasnt happy with the fit and finish of the kit so I made a few modifications but funtionally it workes great. As far as tire wear, it will wear the center out of the tire quicker which will inrease the wear rate. I was paralyzed in a MX accident in 1988 so some form of trike is my only option. Removing the Voyager kit gives you more options for winter storage. It allows you the option for a dyno tune also. Hope this helps.
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oldmanjob 03-06-2008, 06:47 AM wcking, what mods did you do for the fit asI always have trouble with the front mounting bolt spacer on the left side.
wcking 03-06-2008, 09:20 AM I never had problems with the belly bracket mounting bolts and spacers. I did cut the u bolts to the proper length so there wasnt all the extra exposed thread hanging down. I didnt like the "hose clamp" that secured the right side swing arm bracket so I fabed up a rectangular u bolt. The bushings for the fork slider were very crude so I had a new set machined. I put 45 degree miters on the rear frame corners and welded caps on them for a cleaner look. I made a new set of spindals that would accept a 4.5" X 5 bolt pattern to allow me more options on wheels. The 15" wheels with the lower profile tires helped the bounce that the kit has.I think the folks at Voyager could take a little time and round all the corners off the plates and brackets to make it look like a more finished product.
valveguide 03-10-2008, 10:18 AM Try a steering stabilzer , it will calm it down quite a bit.
ORIGINAL: oldmanjob
We have the Voyager kit attached to a 2003 883 hugger Sportster. We bought the bike withthe kit already installed. We have been pleased with the kit so far, but have come to the realization that we are going to have to rake the front end 3 degrees to make it easer to steer on winding roads. Also the 883 lacks power on steep hills so we are looking into re-gearing, or going as far as adding a 1200 kit. It is a snap to remove or re-attach the kit. But we found out the hard way with the hugger Sportster that we had to remove the front mounting bracket in order to ride without the kit. My son took the bike to work the first day we removed the kit but left the front mounting bracket on. Making a slow turn off a main road onto a side road he found himself lying scraped up on the ground, as there was not enough ground clearance, and dumped his mom's bike[sm=oopssign.gif]For the money you get the best of both worlds, andI believe they are having a sale on them this month. We also advised MTC that they need to make a note when selling kit to any hugger type models that is is wise to remove bracket.
My wife has a growing interest in the Can-Am Spyder, so only time will tell. The Sporty might be going up onthe auction block.
oldmanjob 03-12-2008, 10:36 AM Wife has about had it with the Voyager kit. Got stuck getting in and out of the driveway. Went for a ride Sunday, and pulled over in a parking area along side the road. When leaving the drive wheel sunk in some soft dirt and gravel on edge of road and the front end blocking traffic.. By the time we got the bike out of the rut and back on the road, the clutch blew going up next incline. Once we get the clutch fixed she is putting the whole rig up for sale and get a real trike. The 883 is not big enough to handle the kit, not enough power.
But wife did not loose her sense of humor. WhileI rode back to get the trailer to tow it back, she went into the Dollar store where we rolled the bike to, looking for something to munch on. The clerk asked what had happened seeing us rolling the bike to the parking lot. She told him the clutch went, and he asked what kind of bike it was. She told him a Harley, and he said that figures and started laughing. My wife looked at him with a smile and said that is why my husband rides a Triumph.[sm=laughingsmilie.gif]
valveguide 03-12-2008, 11:33 AM Well , sorry about wanting to give it up/away/sell.
I also am on an 883 with the voyager.
I have learned to watch for those ? things/issues/obstructions that look like they will cause issues.
It took a couple/few months to learn , ? , the tricks I guess.
I am happy so far.
Do I wish I could have a full blown/built/lehman trike , of course.
If I find a wallet on the ground with about $12k cash in it I may just do that.
Spudster 03-12-2008, 01:19 PM Don't blame the Voyager kit or the 883 on this one....
oldmanjob 03-20-2008, 09:03 AM Up date[sm=type.gif]Seems the clutch was burned up, and has been replaced with a heavy duty aftermarket one (indications that someone was riding the clutch, and to keep peace in the family will not divulge the amenity of the culprit[sm=nono.gif]) Also switched from a 27 tooth sprocket to a 26. Bike seems to have more grunt, but will see when Voyager kit is put back on. Also inthe process of having the carb re-jetted as it is running onthe lean side as a result of installing the Big Suck air intake system andthe cause of the backfiring. We plan on raking the forks 4 degrees. So as you can see we are trying to get it back onthe road, and have not given up on the voyager kit:D
Spudster 03-20-2008, 11:57 AM I have 8,000 miles on EGC and 2,000 miles on Voyager kit. All my tires are like brand new. I don't "power" through corners like some....your chances of breaking the 'stabilizer bars" is expensive!Don't know about your state, but some thinkit's a trike and must be licensed as an auto! Huh? It's still registered as a motorcycle andfor those of us that are not physically able to ride two wheelsan option to keep on riding down the highway.
valveguide 03-24-2008, 11:10 AM I went just the opposite , added a tooth , just for xway speed shake.
I have done that with every bike I have owned.
I am not interested in quick off the line.
ORIGINAL: oldmanjob
Up date[sm=type.gif]Seems the clutch was burned up, and has been replaced with a heavy duty aftermarket one (indications that someone was riding the clutch, and to keep peace in the family will not divulge the amenity of the culprit[sm=nono.gif]) Also switched from a 27 tooth sprocket to a 26. Bike seems to have more grunt, but will see when Voyager kit is put back on. Also inthe process of having the carb re-jetted as it is running onthe lean side as a result of installing the Big Suck air intake system andthe cause of the backfiring. We plan on raking the forks 4 degrees. So as you can see we are trying to get it back onthe road, and have not given up on the voyager kit:D
oldmanjob 03-25-2008, 06:08 AM Went down a tooth for easer pull up the many hills orI should say mountain roads we have around here. When we ride we stay off interstates if at all possible. Around here the average speed on them is 75, and you are likely to get run over by some idiot cager.
oldmanjob 03-27-2008, 07:43 PM The Sporty Voyager is back on the road. New heavy duty clutch, new gearing from 27 to 26 tooth, big suck air intake, re-jetted and fine tuned the carb. It is hard to believe the difference in the bike. It moves along now without straining and can make grades without down shifting to get up them like before. Shifts as smooth as silk. Next month we will rake her (after the tax man gets his share:eek:)
Question,I have taken this kit off and put it on three times, and have had trouble getting the second front bolt spacer in between the front mounting plate and the pull arm and it does not matter which side I put on first. I have tried adjusting everything that can be adjusted and have ended up using a hammer on it to get it in the space soI can put the bolt in. I called the company this afternoon and inquired about why this should be so hard. The guy on the other end of the phone gave me some suggestions as the Tech person was not there. Like rocking the bike, have some one sit on the seat and move the bike side to side. Then finally he said he has seen them use a hammer to get it into place. Hmmmmmm. So has anyone here taken their kit off and put it back on without any hassle. I plan on calling back tomorrow when the tech is there. So much for their 5 minutes off and 5 minutes on[sm=violin.gif]
wcking 03-28-2008, 06:35 AM Thespacers on mineon mine are tight too but not to the point where I need a hammer. I would suggest sanding a few thousands off the spacers with a flat belt sander. Try to keep it as square as you can. The voyager kitis a bit crude (IMO) and some fine tuning is neccesary. Hope this helps
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bdn56 03-28-2008, 06:58 AM William, glad to hear the sporty is running strong. My kit is being painted this week. I hope is will be installed next week. The trike shop had a couple lined up to do before me.
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valveguide 03-28-2008, 09:33 AM Same issue here , hard to get back on. I think 5 mins to get it off but the same things that you mention I have to go thru when putting it back on. I am hoping to just leave it on this year. I will park at the end of the street/parking lot if need be.
oldmanjob 03-28-2008, 04:02 PM Took the voyager on another shake down run and stopped by the shop whereI had the clutch and gear put in. AsI was getting ready to leave a fellow and his son on a regular Harley trike pulled up and asked me howI liked the voyager kit. It seems he had one before he got his present trike. He and his wife were riding along on on a major road when the right front mounting bolt sheared and sent he and his wife crashing into and over the guard rail. I said to him thatI check all bolts for tightness before we take the bike out. He said he did the same thing and it still sheared. They could not figure out why it sheared as the kit was mounted correctly. WellI guess this is something thatI will be keeping an eye on. Thought you guy's needed to know about this for safety sake, even though this might have been a freak occurance.
valveguide 03-30-2008, 12:04 AM Hmmm , I wonder if they were new riders ?
Those ubolts under the bike though. I would think that if they were loose somehow that the pivoting of that arm that attaches to the front might create this fracture. A guess this is ...
sidecar 03-31-2008, 10:29 AM sorry to hear about your injury. I injured my left leg in 2000 and had to find a way to keep ridding. I went with a side car
rather than a trike kit. I think you have to drive either. Good luck we do whatever we can to keep the wind in our face.
Don
dw2169 03-31-2008, 05:16 PM I am just getting ready to put a voyager on my 02 Ultra. I have MD and my legs are getting weaker. I am scared of dumping the wife on the ground when I ome to a stop. Glad to hear some positives about the Voyager. I bought this unit second hand so there isn't any warranty or anyone to ask quetions. From reading the instructions, I was curious as to how one aligns the bike and the Voyager. Do you square the belly bracket to the bike frame or do you string the bikes tires? Thought I would try it first before I repaint it.
valveguide 04-01-2008, 06:15 AM If you goto yahoo groups you will find an MTC Voyager group which should give you some input.
Alignment , when I did mine I found a flat piece of drive , loosened the belly bracket ubolts while the kit was on the bike. I started the bike and popped the clutch a bit and drove forward a bit, then I tightened everything up. I have to assume that this produced the correct alignment. This method for doing the alignment came from my head , as I could not find an answer that explained the procedure better.
ORIGINAL: dw2169
I am just getting ready to put a voyager on my 02 Ultra. I have MD and my legs are getting weaker. I am scared of dumping the wife on the ground when I ome to a stop. Glad to hear some positives about the Voyager. I bought this unit second hand so there isn't any warranty or anyone to ask quetions. From reading the instructions, I was curious as to how one aligns the bike and the Voyager. Do you square the belly bracket to the bike frame or do you string the bikes tires? Thought I would try it first before I repaint it.
bdn56 04-01-2008, 09:16 AM Dwight, I think the voyager web site should have a video on installation. I tried to find a used kit. I couldn't find anyone that would ship it to me. I purchased a new one. I am hoping the kit works out for you. I think I'll need mine for about a year. My leg may be strong enough by then to remove the kit. Good luck.
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bdn56 04-02-2008, 07:40 AM My Voyagerkit has been installed. Will pick it up after work today. Wouldn't you know it, rain in the forecast the next few days. Will post pics soon.
I thank all who helpedfrom this forum and especiallyall the voyager kit owners who took the time to reply. Bryan
dw2169 04-02-2008, 08:59 AM BDN, Good Luck with your new Voyager, I am looking forward to hearing how well you like it.
Spudster 04-02-2008, 11:49 AM BDN...good luck and I know you're going to enjoy riding with the kit. Keep us posted.
bdn56 04-05-2008, 08:28 AM I picked up my bike Wednesday. Adventure Trikes in Dothan did a great job on the painting and installaction. I hope the weather will clear up. I am trying to figure out where to put my crutches when I ride. Anybody have an idea? These pictures were taken with a cell phone. Sorry for the quality. Will take more later. Bryan
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dive328 04-07-2008, 03:50 PM There is quite a bit of space between the fenders and bags is there not ?
Depending on the type of crutches you have, here are a cpl suggestions.
If you have canadian style crutches, why dont you go to west marine and pick up two polished stainless fishing rod holders, knock the bottom plastic out, and mount on inside of fender at a 45 Degree angle and just drop one on each side..
if you use regular crutches, you could us some type of stainless steel hook, and a rubber strap to secure them in the same spot..
just a cpl ideas,
dw2169 04-07-2008, 08:41 PM I think dive328 has some good ideas. On the lower flat guards, I am sure you coud mount one or both crutches and still be able to reach down and retrieve them. How do you like the ride so far?
badinfluence63 04-07-2008, 09:45 PM bdn56,
Looks great. Thats my favorite set up if I was gonna have a trike. Its a trike but it has all the bags of an ultra. Good luck.
bdn56 04-08-2008, 08:08 AM I have ridden about 20 miles in between rain this weekend. dive328 is correct on the spacing between the fender and saddle bag. Don't laugh now. This is what I did. Had my bride of 25 years move my wheel chair to the garage. Looked around the benches and shelves. Then it struck me? I have 2 rubber gun mounts on my 4 wheeler. Very simple after that.I drilled two 1/4 inch holes in the flat sheet metal between the fender and saddle bag about 30 inches apart. Bolted the gun mounts from the bottom and I was done. The crutches fit perfect in the mounts and each has a rubber strap to secure them. I had to test drive it yesterday for a few miles to ensure they hold. The crutches did not move. Are you still laughing?
You can't hardly see the black mounts on the black metal support. I still need to be a little careful riding. I can't use my rear brake yet. I am glad to have duel disc brakes in the front.
I like it so far. I have to get used to the crown in our roads down hear.It's more work to drive but better than sitting at the house. Thanks for the compliments. I was very pleased at the final product. I have to give thanks to Adventure Motor Sports for the fine job they did. Randy and his staff were very helpful.
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grumpa 04-08-2008, 10:01 AM I have been looking into this trike thing for a while now, Getting prices, styles, trunk or no trunk,The voyager does give you room for saddle bags. But the price seems to be just a little high, I looked into Mysterydesigns.com Their kits start at $3200 then add fenders and tires and rims of your chose your up to $4400 (oh plus fright) Your only dealing with three tires not four.And no trunk is a drew back.
For the guy that started this post would a side car be a better bet , now you will have a place for the cane and all.
bdn56 04-08-2008, 10:18 AM Grumpa, I have never thought of buying a trike or side car until my little accident. After years of riding, it is hard for me to acknowledge the fact that I may never ride a 2 wheeler again. I am hoping that someday I can.What do doctors know? That is the main reason I purchased the Voyager kit. If my bones will heal up, I am hoping to remove the kit for most of my riding. I will install it when going on long trips or if the wife is with me.
I am finding out the vast difference with the kit installed. Your brain says to lean, the bike says no. I realize at slow speeds, turning takes some effort. I also realized I should have had a reverse kit installed.
I have not seen very many side cars. The only ones were on the old war movies and the motorcycle races. Those guys rode them like there was no tomorrow. I am happy with my decision so far. I can at least ride again.
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dw2169 04-08-2008, 08:11 PM Congrats on being abe to ride again. You can always add the reverse gear setup. Is it hard to push backwards or is it because you can only use one leg to push with. I have torn both rotator cuffs, had surgery, and have no upper arm strength any more. I am worried aout being able to turn the trike once I get the Voyager mounted. How do you find the stability and do you acheive the 6 to 12 degree of lean for mild turns?
Spudster 04-08-2008, 10:41 PM Bryan,
Sharp lookin' motorcycle with the kit......you will love riding again. Can't help you with the crutches location, but sounds like you got couple good ideas. Happy riding, my friend.
bdn56 04-09-2008, 09:35 AM Dwight, I can only use 1 leg at this time to push back wards. I think it will be easier when I get both legs working. I have not noticed and degree of lean in my kit. I may have to do some fine tuning on the suspension on the bike and the kit to achieve some lean.
I am just happy to be able to ride. I will get used to everything as soon as I ride a few more times.
My wife is much happier spending $5000.00 rather than $15,000 to get me back riding.
Barbara, Thanks for the compliment. After much intensive thought, I installed my gun mounts off my 4 wheeler to the flat metal plate between the saddle bag and the fender. Works perfect. Stop laughing. See ya. Bryan
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bdn56 04-09-2008, 09:48 AM Valveguide, (Mike) I may need to change my gearing a little. I may have to do as Oldmanjob (William) did with the sprocket. Mine seems a little sluggish taking off in first. It feel like I am taking off in second gear. Did the HD dealer do yours? About how much is it to change out the sprocket? Thanks. Bryan
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bdn56 04-10-2008, 03:24 PM I used to ride my bike to work, now I have to drive it to work. 1st day driving the bike to work. Sure felt good. I am getting used to the handling and ride.
I tuck my bad foot in behind the brake pedal. Seems to work for me. I am still taking it slow for now, nothing over 70 yet.
The crown in our roads down hear sure make it fun? The ruts are also enjoyable?
I hope I can get home before the weather moves in. See ya later. Bryan
Also like the addition of the trailer posting.
oldmanjob 04-10-2008, 07:29 PM ORIGINAL: bdn56
Valveguide, (Mike) I may need to change my gearing a little. I may have to do as Oldmanjob (William) did with the sprocket. Mine seems a little sluggish taking off in first. It feel like I am taking off in second gear. Did the HD dealer do yours? About how much is it to change out the sprocket? Thanks. Bryan
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I had the pully changed by a private shop R&P Cycle in Fletcher NC whoI trust and know personally and only work on Harley's. The pully cost me $175. It is a 26 tooth down from a 27, and did not have to change the drive belt as there was plenty of adjusting room.Boy what a difference. It finally can pull up grades now and take off from lights. I do not Know what the labor cost for just putting the pully in asI had it done with the clutch job. The labor for the whole job, clutch and pully was $157.00. Next project is to get it raked 4 degrees so it will steer easer. I do not know if your bike has an oil cooler but would recommend one if it dosn't as the bike is working harder pulling the extra weight. Saw a big difference in temp of the oil before and after.
Bill. (William is to formal [sm=smiley2.gif])
oldmanjob 04-15-2008, 01:19 PM Just got back from ordering the 4 degree rake kit for the forks, should be in by the latest Thursday, and on the bike by the weekend. Took another 30 mile ride and dropping the sprocket one tooth has really turned this bike around and it is a pleasure to drive now, not sluggish at all.
bdn56 04-15-2008, 02:37 PM Glad your happy with the sprocket change. The local HD dealer said the ultra is geared a little different than my super glide. He stated that no problems have been noticed with the "longer" gearing.
I pumped up the shocks to 30lbs, grabbed the wife and road for about 80 miles Saturday. I am getting used to the handling and ride. I changed out the stock windshield for an 8 inch light tint. I love it.
My wife misses the leaning in the corners. I am just thankful to be out and about.
We are riding in a poker run fund raiser this weekend. My first good ride in 2 months.
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badinfluence63 04-15-2008, 03:29 PM bdn56,
Do you have reverse? If you've ever considered it, check this out (I am contemplating this myself):
http://www.eglidegoodies.com/id71.html
If you're gonna have your rig for awhile(which I plan to) this mighten be a bad investment. I like the part with the stick shift. Theres an '08 ultra with ulatra sidecar at the local dealer and it appears tohave this set up. Pretty slick looking too.
bdn56 04-16-2008, 10:32 AM B I, I am sure thinking about that exact reverse kit. If you get it, please let me know the difficulty level as far as installation. Thanks a loadfor the PM.
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madcritter 04-16-2008, 09:17 PM Man this is some good info the wife is wanting a trike and this would save some bucks.
badinfluence63 04-16-2008, 11:08 PM bdn56,
I am sure thinking about that exact reverse kit. If you get it, please let me know the difficulty level as far as installation. Thanks a loadfor the PM.
Its gonna be a while beforeMrs BIagree's w/me. I mentioned the intention to her and she didn't exactly say no. It was more like now is not a good time (taxes, left over fuel bill, residual christmas damage, new grand child on the way etc..) Plus I just finally paid off my metal detector which has been on lay away since October 4th 2007! I got a pretty good one though. Now to get the beer hat!
With regards to the PM....from one old timer to another!
One of our chapter embers has the voyager kits and loves it, done some real mileage too - over here in the UK we he has a unique problem........
Nobody can figure out what the hell it is!
Four wheels but not a car as only one wheel drives and only one steers
Same with buggy
Not a bike - four wheels, nor trike
One wheel drive, one wheel steers - but 4 whells so not a bike!!!
Police and licensing can't figure it out
bdn56 04-17-2008, 03:18 PM Not a problem so far. Price is the same for car or bike tags. As long as they get their money, they are happy. I did have to change insurance companies though. Foremost would not insure my bike? Be safe over there. Bryan
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Spudster 04-17-2008, 06:56 PM It's a motorcycle with TRAINER WHEELS!!!!!!!! :D
grumpa 04-17-2008, 09:50 PM At first I said the same thing, about training wheels. but from what I have seen , you almost have to look under the bike to see what it is.
Jock
I got one for you, What clan is your tartan from that i see your Kilt. I have a kilt but I'm not going to ask you that other dumb question, I will ask, do you wear your kilt on your bike.? I never tried it yet.
My kilt is that of County Donegal Ireland. My wifes family tartan is Irving
omega5m14 04-19-2008, 04:43 PM I have the Voyager kit on my Nomad. Wife wants to learn to
ride so I went that way in case she don't like it I'll still have my
Nomad to ride. Now with my Ultra Classic, that's not an issue.
There are some tricks to riding a MTC kit, you steer like riding a
four wheeler, turn the bars sooner into turns than you would
normally lean, turn the bars completely before letting out the
clutch when stopped to make a turn,make sure your pre-load on
the trikes suspension is correct.I had mine installed and
for some reason, they went with 1/4 inch instead of the 1/2
it called for. Your E-Glide calls for a 1/2 inch. Pre-loading is
easier than the instructions seem to make it.
I really like mine. Here's a couple pics.I went with
the Fiberglass fenders.It comes with the lights installed.
You have to purchase the wiring kit separate.
Ride safe,
Dano
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omega5m14 04-19-2008, 04:53 PM Just went thru the rest of the posts and seen you got nearly the
same set up as I have. My wife still hasn't got brave enough to
try it alone but no matter, I love to ride it too. One thing I have
to keep in mind is when to put my feet down and when to keep
them up. I have visions of me not putting my feet down when
riding my UC and making a total fool out of myself in front of God
and everybody:D
Ride safe,
Dano
badinfluence63 04-20-2008, 01:00 AM The voyager kit is both attractive and cost effective. If the day ever came when someone had to have a stabilizing situation for 2 wheels and wanted to keep riding that seems like a pretty affordable way to go. Beats staying home because you cannot physically handle just 2 wheels any more.
The sidecar bike in my recent experience is a challenge for now. Is this the same when learning to drive a trike? Or a Voyager kit trike?
dw2169 04-20-2008, 01:15 AM Just got the voyager installed, took the bike for a five mile trial rim, wow what a difference,the wife is a lttle freaked out by the crown in the road.
badinfluence63 04-20-2008, 01:34 AM DW,
Congrats on your recent install. Was that on your Ultra I see in your sig? Does the Voyager kit allow for some pitch and crown in the road or will one or the other wheel inevitable come off the road a bit?
oldmanjob 04-20-2008, 08:14 AM It comes off the road:eek:
dw2169 04-20-2008, 11:21 AM Yes the kit is on the Ultra, it sure gives you a strange sensation when corning. I found that the steering takes quite a bit of effort and one had better pay attention to ones speed in the corners. I think I need to reset my preload as I don't seem to be able to do much leaning. I was hoping to put some miles on it today but it is snowing here today. It is nice to know the bike isn't going to fall over. I wonder how much difference a rake kit would make.
belfastdrennan 04-20-2008, 03:37 PM Hi Bryan
See you're a '56 model, same as myself.
Sorry I wasn't here sooner to add my tuppence worth about the 'Voyager', but I've only just joined the forum.
Anyway, glad you got the Voyager with the 'Indian' style fibreglass sweeping mudguards (fenders). The aesthetics are fantastic compared tothe other bolt-ons with the smaller wheels. Your pictures look well. You will enjoy it!
My three Harleys all have Bolt-on Kits. Electra-Glide has Voyager De-Luxe, Sportster has plain Voyager with flat fenders, and Ultra-Glide has my own version(a homebuiltupgraded take on a Voyager Deluxe). They all ride just like a trike. (I've half a dozen 'real' trikes too, including some homebuilt)
Only comment I would make is that the Voyagerdoesn't like low speed tight corners on twisty roads (we've plenty of those in Ireland), but once you open them up they fly, 80mph sweepers are fantastic (sorry Officer, she just clean flew away with me!).And they feel so secure in the wind and rain (we get plenty of that too!) that I've no hesitation about riding in the bad weather.
Keep her between the hedges.
Drennan
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oldmanjob 04-20-2008, 06:13 PM ORIGINAL: dw2169
Yes the kit is on the Ultra, it sure gives you a strange sensation when corning. I found that the steering takes quite a bit of effort and one had better pay attention to ones speed in the corners. I think I need to reset my preload as I don't seem to be able to do much leaning. I was hoping to put some miles on it today but it is snowing here today. It is nice to know the bike isn't going to fall over. I wonder how much difference a rake kit would make.
The rakeing of the front end makes a great difference as most trikes are raked bythe dealer who puts it together.. I just had a 4 degree rake put onthe Sportster and will be picking it up Tues night. The kit cost 427 dollars plus labor. (will find out labor cost when picking up bike). It is my understanding that with this amount of rake the bike will still be able to be ridden without the kit.
bdn56 04-21-2008, 08:23 AM We took our first good rideSaturday. We experienced the same thing some of you have said. Some of our roads are in bad shape. I try to run staggered in formation, but you have to get in the middle when the crown in the road gets to bad. I warned everyone around me to give me a little more room for me to experiment.Had a great time.I know my arms will get stronger the more I ride.
belfast, thanks for your input. I noticed the same while going through curves. Need to work on my upper arm strength.
Bill, I hope the rake kit works for you.
dw2169, we try to lean a little bit in the corners. The bike doesn't lean much but we feel more comfortable. I need to get the installation manual and make sure my preload is correct. A couple people have said how important that could be.
omega, great looking bikes. I tried your advice on turning the handlebars before letting out the clutch at intersections. Much Much easier to take off.
This kind of input has made my riding much more enjoyable. As far as the tires coming off the ground, I really can't feel it.
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grumpa 04-21-2008, 08:55 AM oh well
Spudster 04-21-2008, 11:05 AM One comment here.....you don't want to "power" through the corners w/Voyager kit. Too easy to snap the stabilizers on each side. When riding with a group, usually ride at the tail-end because you have to ride center of lane....enjoy.
bdn56 04-21-2008, 11:30 AM I tried to get in the back of the formation. We had a couple others already claiming that position. They wanted to watch my tires come off the ground. The only time they saw the tires move up at all was on the roads with a high crown. I am finding the ride a little rougher because 2 more tires are hitting the little bumps.I have to go a little slower through the corners. No more scrapping the foot boards I guess. I have not noticed any problems with the kit. I am learning to adjust as needed. Still love it though. Anything is better than the rocking chair on the porch.
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omega5m14 04-21-2008, 05:42 PM You can download the instructions for setting the preload from
the MTC site. Your bike will need a 1/2 inch. Find a good oak 1/2 board to use. Make sure it's and actual 1/2 inch. Most boards cheat you a little bit. It's not that hard. You first make sure all the tires and shocks are air'd up to spec. The tires on the MTC are 20 lb/psi. Take the top shock bolts completely out,
loosen all 8 U-bolts and the two suspension lock nuts. Roll the
back bike tire onto the 1/2 inch board, tighten the 8 U-bolt nuts to 35 ft/lb; tighten the suspension lock nuts; re-install the top shock bolts and you're ready to ride. It's really just that simple.
The hardest part was finding the "Suspension Lock Nuts" Pic in the manual is small and hard to tell what's what. On each of the back corners, you'll find a nut in an oblong slot. That's the
suspension lock nut.
Glad to help.
madcritter 04-22-2008, 11:01 AM ORIGINAL: Spudster
Hi all....I have a Voyager Conversion Kit on my '06 Electra-Glide Classic. Purchased in April from Baker City, OR dealer. The cost was $4,800 which included whitewall tires, chrome wheels and tombstone lights.
No, it does not 'eat' upyourthe tires on either bike or kit! I don't power through corners or hotrod either. Takes about 5 minutes to get the hang of riding w/kit....steer thru corners..no lean.
If you google Voyager Conversion Kit, you will find their web site (think it's under MTC). They make kits for every motorcycle made. Great Customer Service also. You can click on dealers once you're on the site...to find one in your particular area.
Word of caution....Moco will not honor your 2-yr or Extended Warranty once you attach the Kit to your motorcycle! At least that's what they told me. Might be a bluff, but it's not a HD factory install.
Spudster (http://www.hdforums.com/showProfile.asp?memid=31795)
What type of gas miles difference are you seeing with the Voyager installed ?
thanks
Spudster 04-22-2008, 12:29 PM I really haven't checked gas mileage. I just fill up when gas gauge shows 1/4.;)
madcritter 04-22-2008, 01:01 PM thanks, was just wondering how much the exta weight cut the milage.
Spudster 04-22-2008, 02:02 PM Forget what the weight of kit is.....not that much. I traveled to Northern Idaho last summer. Had both saddlebags and tour box filled to the brim. Had suitcase behind me, plus another pack on luggage rack. Still lots of power in the mountains. I'm thinking because of the design of the kit, it's not adding weight to the bike. I may be wrong, but seems that way to me. I didn't track gas mileage before kit was added.
madcritter 04-22-2008, 02:09 PM thanks, I'm really leaning toward one of these for the wife in the not to distant future
bdn56 04-22-2008, 03:17 PM I had a Stage 1 performed just before installing the voyager kit. I think my mileage dropped a little because I like to hear the pipes more than I should.
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Spudster 04-22-2008, 04:31 PM Hahahah!! Know what you mean about the pipes....had the baffles removed and the pipes are a wee-bit loud. Sound bounces off back plate of kit.
omega5m14 04-22-2008, 06:19 PM I have Roadhouse Dooleys on my trike with the Shark Fin
tips. The heat from the exhaust was messing with my paint
so I bought a couple 2 1/4 inch turn down chrome exhaust
tips, bolted them to the actual exhaust pipe inside my Dooleys,
slipped my Shark Fin tips overthem and screwed them on.
This is the result. It works great.
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Spudster 04-22-2008, 07:23 PM Nice looking setup.........
grumpa 04-22-2008, 07:39 PM To ride in Idaho, I bet Barbara has a heater on that bagger, I rode the tetons and yellow stone years and it was cold, but then i was young.
oldmanjob 04-23-2008, 06:53 AM The rake kit is on and what a difference it actually steers. It was a short ride home but had a short twistie section and it was a different bike. Turning on and off roads is a pleasure. The final cost of the kit was $388.00 plus $88.00 labor then the dreaded tax, as we pay 6.75% here in NC which was $26.19 Total $502.00. Will try to get out today for a longer ride, and will keep everyone posted[sm=biker2.gif]
dw2169 04-23-2008, 09:50 PM some pictures of my kit:
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I want to redo the preload and attempt to get it to pull more even, it seems to pull ever so sligtly to the right. I have found the slow twisties to be a challenge but did take it up to 90 and found it to be pretty stable. Rough roads make for a rougher ride as you have to ride how ever the wheels decide. I had turnout exhaust pipes on my bike and was worried that they would be too long, but they worked out perfect. It seems to use more gas than usual as the gauge went to just over half with only 80 miles ridden but that doesn't mean anything. It is great not having to worry about falling anymore. On decent roads and smooth corners, it is a great ride and I am loving it. Can't wait to get it all painted in the same color.
Spudster 04-23-2008, 10:26 PM dw...nice photos.
Grumpa...have heated vest and gloves. Haven't used them this year, noticed as I get older, can't take the cold weather anymore!
bdn56 04-29-2008, 10:51 AM Sorry I have not responded this past week. My daughter was married this weekend at Panama City Beach, Fl. Wonderful time and now have a great son-in-law. I have been gone since last Wednesday. My wife didn't let me take the bike to the beach this time. Still learning to handle it before getting into all the excitement. Thunder Beach is this weekend. I won't make this one. I will go down to their fall rally.
dw, the kit looks good. Post some more pics when the painting is finished. We are having similar driving experiences. I will check my preload. I just think I'm weak from laying around for a month with my bum leg in the air.
Barbara, you changed your sig? What have I missed? Did you get a new bike?
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Spudster 04-29-2008, 01:48 PM Bryan, the Sportster was my winter project..bought it last September...everyone thinks I'm crazy!! Two bikes and one bu** (lol). Rode Blue this morning before the high wind advisory. Congratulations on the wedding and new SIL.
bdn56 04-29-2008, 02:09 PM Now that is a nice looking sportster. I thought about buying a sportster after my accident. Might be a little easier to handle with the bad leg? Then my doctor says NO riding for 6 to 12 months. He meant no feet on the ground while riding.
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Spudster 04-30-2008, 07:50 PM Keep your feet planted....really have to concentrate when switching bikes! Can you just picture me pulling up to a stop sign and not putting my feet down on the Sportster? Yikes, perish the thought.
dw2169 04-30-2008, 09:36 PM Thanks BDn, I am convinced that I want to go to a full trike now The Voyager makes me a little nervous as too how hard I dare ride into a corner with it. I am considered a hard rider by my friends cuz I usually push a bike to its full performance and I have not found a comfort level with the Voyager. As Barbara said, one had better be doing the speed limit in corners and I totally agree. I find I can push it about 5 miles over but I really have to hang on to the bike. My shoulders have both had torn rotator cuffs so I don't have a lot of arm strength and I get tired easy from the MD. I am sure that raking the front end would make it much easier to handle. I am trying to decide whether to go with a straight axle or independant suspension. I have ridden a Motor Trike (straight axle) on a Honda and it felt very solid other than the bike was very uncomfortable after riding an UC. I am going to the Harley dealer and try a Lehman out. The one I really want to try is a California Sidecar Trike but the closest dealer is in Rapid City, SD and he doesn't have one together at the moment to ride. I am also hoping to get some good input from some of the people on the forum. I have also played with the idea of just getting a whole new trike rather than triking my bike but I just put in gear cams and it is running really good and only has 45000 miles on it. Sheesh I guess I have gone on long enough. I will give the Voyager a few more miles as I don'treally think 300 miles is enough of a tryout. So please forum peoples, give me your opinions.
bdn56 05-01-2008, 07:42 AM Putting your feet down? The first time I rode EG with the floor boards, I almost forgot to put my feet down at a light. I thought they were down. That was in 1983. I think of that every time I slow down now. I sure am getting used to leaving me feet up. I am beginning to like it a lot.
You all know how hot it can get down here in LA (lower Alabama), I don't have to worry about my kick stand sinking in the hot asphalt anymore.
dw, I need to ride some trikes to see how much different they are. I like the independent suspension on my kit. I think going into corners won't be to much different with a trike. I may be wrong. CF will push you in the opposite direction of the turn every time without leaning. My wife and I both started trying to lean into the turn. It's different, but it seems to feel better cornering. I have taken some sharp corners so far. I just need to hang on and go.
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oldmanjob 05-01-2008, 11:39 AM Going into the corners with a trike will be just like a bike with a voyager kit unless the forks are raked. I know a woman with a cool BMW trike which cannot be raked and it is a handful. She is going to sell it and get one which is raked or if not be able to be raked. Like I said in previous posts the Sporty with the rake is like night and day. :)
dw2169 05-01-2008, 07:41 PM I rode a Motor Trike and it felt completely different than the Voyager. It was more stable and you didn't fight the steering nearly as much even though it was not raked. It is really hard to explain but I know you will fill the difference when you ride one. I just want to see the difference between solid and independant. Of course, the price is extremely hard on the budget. We are getting snow tonight so will wait to find out.
Spudster 05-01-2008, 08:14 PM Give the Voyager Kit a chance....you don't need to 'speed' thru corners, leave that to the two-wheel buds..you'll get there! I haven't ridden a trike, but I'm very happy with the voyager kit.
madcritter 05-01-2008, 08:41 PM ORIGINAL: omega5m14
I have Roadhouse Dooleys on my trike with the Shark Fin
tips. The heat from the exhaust was messing with my paint
so I bought a couple 2 1/4 inch turn down chrome exhaust
tips, bolted them to the actual exhaust pipe inside my Dooleys,
slipped my Shark Fin tips overthem and screwed them on.
This is the result. It works great.
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neat trick on the trike. thanks for your service, welcome home.
landed in the middle of tet 68 on the way back from R&R
5th Special Forces Group (ABN) RVN 66-68
whhoooooooora bro
any where near Williamson county Tnn ?
kentuckydave 05-01-2008, 10:20 PM My wife has a DFT kit with independent suspension. She didn't have the upper body strength to ride the Fat Boy before it was converted, she kept dropping it after she stopped the thing. Well, I had it modified in order to keep her on the road. Did it work, heck yes. She loves it. We ride in the mountains and she hasn't had it raked out yet. I believe it needs the rake because it scrubbs going around tight curves. On the open road it rides like a car. I truly believe that independent suspension is the way to go.Smoother ride and only one center brake to worry about--both rear wheels brake the same. Older Lehmans had individual brakes and if they weren't adjusted right then they will pull to one side.
For anyone considering a reverse kit---all I can say is go for it. The Champion geared kit is great. You do have to be careful though because it works off the main engine and it can get away from you. I use ours mostly to back the trike up into our enclosed trailer. You can't get into a place you can't back out of!
Enough of my blubbering on. Its great to have this forum to discuss the ins and outs of trikes. Three wheels are great. I still ride a two wheeler but it won't be long before I convert mine also.
omega5m14 05-02-2008, 05:53 AM Thanks Charles. Welcome home to you too Brother. Been a lot
of water under the bridge since TET. Somedays it feels like it was a past life experience and then others; it feels like it was
yesterday.
Ride safe Bro, not many of us left.
madcritter 05-02-2008, 08:48 AM ORIGINAL: omega5m14
Thanks Charles. Welcome home to you too Brother. Been a lot
of water under the bridge since TET. Somedays it feels like it was a past life experience and then others; it feels like it was
yesterday.
Ride safe Bro, not many of us left.
I know what you mean about being just yesterday. On another note I made 4 trips to Womack Army Hospital at Ft Bragg last month (pre fed job tests). Saw a bunch of hurt kids, but not a one complaining made me proudof them. made me wonder were we ever that young.
madcritter 05-02-2008, 08:49 AM ORIGINAL: kentuckydave
My wife has a DFT kit with independent suspension. She didn't have the upper body strength to ride the Fat Boy before it was converted, she kept dropping it after she stopped the thing. Well, I had it modified in order to keep her on the road. Did it work, heck yes. She loves it. We ride in the mountains and she hasn't had it raked out yet. I believe it needs the rake because it scrubbs going around tight curves. On the open road it rides like a car. I truly believe that independent suspension is the way to go.Smoother ride and only one center brake to worry about--both rear wheels brake the same. Older Lehmans had individual brakes and if they weren't adjusted right then they will pull to one side.
For anyone considering a reverse kit---all I can say is go for it. The Champion geared kit is great. You do have to be careful though because it works off the main engine and it can get away from you. I use ours mostly to back the trike up into our enclosed trailer. You can't get into a place you can't back out of!
Enough of my blubbering on. Its great to have this forum to discuss the ins and outs of trikes. Three wheels are great. I still ride a two wheeler but it won't be long before I convert mine also.
what type of price on the DFT kit ?
thanks
omega5m14 05-02-2008, 04:07 PM Does make you wonder. Here's a pic of me after getting out of the hospital, I'd stepped on a spike during a more exciting exfil.
Got some form of blood infection. Spent 3 weeks with IV antibiotics, feeding tube in one end and a rectal tube in the other; along with a catheter. Lost a few pounds. The pic is
after I'd gained some of it back and all the bandages removed. Anyway, I have the pics to prove I was that young but it's hard to believe.
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madcritter 05-02-2008, 04:27 PM Skinny little rascal back then weren't you.
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omega5m14 05-02-2008, 04:34 PM Looks like I wasn't the only one Bro :-)
madcritter 05-02-2008, 04:48 PM Ain't it amazing what long walks with heavy loads inthe heat, monsoons, jungle rot,old Crat's(1954) and beer in rusty steel canscan do to you.
omega5m14 05-02-2008, 06:01 PM Accounts for my bad feet, enlarged liver, hyperfuctioning spleen
and piss poor attitude when it comes to anything connected with the V.A.. I asked the V.A. for 2 things and they failed
miserably on both. 1. Cure the jungle rot I came home with. Use to get up in the morning with the sheets soaked in blood from
scratching at night. It had taken over every dark moist area of
my body. I stunk like a piece of road kill. Took 3 years and before I found a doctor with the sense to do multiple biopsies. I was eat up with fungus, yeast, and staph. It was so bad that he
had to order the ingredients and get the hospital pharmicist to
compound a medication that would work on all of the different infections. 2. When I went to college my GI bill was denied. Honorable DS Vietnam Vet and my college benifits were denied.[:@]
Took a trip to Nashville to find out why. I'd been out over 10
years. Damn near got arrested when they told me that. Probably still have my pic posted at the entrance. No, I'll die before I ever darken the V.A.'s doors again for anything. When I graduated, I sent that little crippled traitor a copy of my diploma
with a short note telling him where he could put it.
Guess you can tell I this is a real sore topic with me so before
I say to much more, I'll stop. Still have a lot of anger in me.
Anyway, appreciate your service and glad you made it back.
Think I'll go take a ride and calm down ;) Take care Brother.
madcritter 05-02-2008, 06:07 PM Ride safe, at least there is no agent orange on our streets (that we know of). I am about as bad as you on VA. it sucks gave up on it years ago.
Just saw your occupation, close, retired localLEO, going to work next monday as a fed officer, see if I can't double my bank account every month for a few more years.
omega5m14 05-02-2008, 07:30 PM When I came back in 69, I couldn't buy a job, tried. Just about ready tore-up andgo back to what I knew when I saw an add for Metro DC Police Officers. Took the test, passed, went to work for the best Police Department I ever worked for. Been in Law Enforcement of one dimension or another ever since.
Good luck with the Feds. Got a good friend that works for ATF
stationed in Atlanta.
dw2169 05-03-2008, 11:42 PM Well I went to the Harley dealer today and rode an 08 Lehman Trike. I found it was very solid and easy to steer. I was able to corner as fast as the two wheel bikes and could turn around in the middle of a two lane road with no problem. I talked with several trikers and they all liked the Lehman Trikes. I was surprised when the red one ended up following me home. I am really looking forward to riding again without having to worry and enjoy the ride. The 96 inch motor seemed to have plenty of get up and go. Can't wait to break it in tomorrow.
bdn56 05-05-2008, 09:22 AM Mad, Omega, I guess I was lucky. In 1969, I crashed going down a mountain on snow skis. Ruined my right knee. When I was for called for my physical, I was denied enlistment. I felt pretty useless. In 1978, I got laid off from my union machinist job, my wife left me so I figured I try enlisting again. I swam in the hotel pool in Detroit for 2 hours the night before the physical. My knee was good and tight that time and they took me. They were very short of guys at that time do to all the vets getting out. 20 years and 4 months later, I retired as a Senior Aviator.
I should have known the same knee would get me in trouble again. I am healing ok. I should be able to walk without crutches in another month. Thanks for your service for myself and my country.
dw, did you win the lottery? Just kidding, I hope you enjoy the Lehman trike. I am jealous. Send us some pics.
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badinfluence63 05-05-2008, 11:55 AM Omega,
I work in a VAMC. Iwould like to try you help you if I could. PM me if you are interested and I will tell you who I am and what I do.
dw2169 05-05-2008, 10:34 PM Here's some pictures of the new trike:
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It rides fantastic. Put 300 miles on so far and am really enjoying it. Goes around the corners super and you feel completely secure in the corners. I rode with a couple of two wheel bikes and stayed right with them through the corners, it was a blast. I'll be glad when I get it broke in so I can just have fun. Thanks for all the help.
kentuckydave 05-05-2008, 10:48 PM The DFT kit was $14,300 installed on our Fat Boy. That included labor, the paint to match the bike and a Champion Reverse.
omega5m14 05-06-2008, 05:50 AM Thanks, but I'll pass. Through some smart money management,
everything I own is paid in full. Only bills I have are for utilities,
gas and groceries. Of course, theoccasional chrome do-dad for
one bike or the other:). Naw, don't need a thing from the VA or
the Government in general but to be left alone. Government betrayed us in Nam and then betrayed again after we came home; I won't give them a chancefor a third time.
Again, thanks anyway but I'll pass.
1sportytrike 05-06-2008, 08:09 AM GREAT looking trike, dw! Also the best avatar pic on this whole site!!:DORIGINAL: dw2169
Here's some pictures of the new trike:
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It rides fantastic. Put 300 miles on so far and am really enjoying it. Goes around the corners super and you feel completely secure in the corners. I rode with a couple of two wheel bikes and stayed right with them through the corners, it was a blast. I'll be glad when I get it broke in so I can just have fun. Thanks for all the help.
bdn56 05-06-2008, 01:56 PM I guess I'll have to go ride one of those expensive trikes. In my tired old mind, if the bike is not leaning in a curve, how can you not feel as though you are falling the opposite direction? Does that make sense? I understand about rake and trail and making steering easier. The faster I go around a corner, does requireagreater amount of pressureon the handle bars. The only thing that limits me on the curves is my ability to hold on. I am not concerned with the kit failing. I am a big believer in fate. If it is meant to happen, it will, not much I can do about it.
I am done rambling now.
dw, what did you do with your voyager kit? Did you sell your Ultra?
You have a very good looking trike. Hope you enjoy your ride.
I agree with 1sporttrike on the avitar.
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dw2169 05-06-2008, 04:40 PM I have the Voyager kit for sale and I traded my old bike for the new one. I really loved that old bike. The new bike corners alot like the Voyager but does it alot easier. You still have to pull it through the corners but it is a whole lot easier and your but tells you that you are in control (no more pucker power) and the feet stay off the ground. I am not knocking the Voyager, it worked well for what it is, but with both of us on the bike, my wife was always going oooooohhhh deeaaarr in the corners and trying to hold me up, like that was gonna do anything to save us and she said she had to use her legs much more to stay in the seat. Now she says it feels just like riding on two wheels did, nice and solid. Go try a trike that as been mounted on a Harley, as I found the Goldwing I tried was not very comfortable as far a feet configuration. A trike builder told me that Goldwingers didn't know what comfort was when I complained about it. I think it is because of the way the engine sits on a Goldwing, no place for your feet in a good forward position but they can stand up on theirs a lot easier.
bdn56 05-07-2008, 08:06 AM dw, my wife says the same thing about the corners. I am getting used to it. I am thinking about putting on those arm rests to make her feel more secure. If my leg doesn't get much stronger in the next few months, I may have to fertilize the old money tree in the back yard and check out the new Harley trikes at the dealer.
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Spudster 05-07-2008, 10:12 AM Found out there's a Motor Trike dealer right here in my backyard!!! May have to check it out after the Rally in Shasta end of the month.Heard tell that one needs to ride a trike to see what the diff would be.
dw2169 05-07-2008, 05:19 PM Barbara, you will be ale to tell right away the differences. In corners, you wil feel a whole lot more comfortable and not have to worry so much about getting slowed down in time for the corners.
bdn56 05-08-2008, 07:38 AM I wanted to askeveryone about tire pressure on your voyager kit. Mine seems to bounce some on real bumpy roads. If I lower the pressure a little, seems as though it will help?
Where did you go belfast?
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Spudster 05-08-2008, 12:53 PM Bryan....Are you rear shocks on the kit on the 3rd hole from the rear? I had mine on the 2nd hole and it was bouncing around also.
Also, air up shocks on your bike as far as you can go.
bdn56 05-08-2008, 02:55 PM I'll check tonight Barbara. Thanks.
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omega5m14 05-08-2008, 02:56 PM I run 40 in the rear tire of my bike and 20 in the Voyager
Kit tires. I run my air shocks at about 3/4 max which is around
36psi on the Nomad and it has 4 dampening settings and I'm
runnin it on #3.
Make sure your pre-load is right. You'd need a 1/2 inch.
bdn56 05-08-2008, 03:08 PM Dano, my rear tire is 40lbs, my air shocks max at 30lbs. I'll check the kit tires. I wanted to check the preload first, but will have to wait a few more weeks. I am "temporarily physically challenged" as my wife calls it.
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omega5m14 05-08-2008, 04:27 PM Sorry to hear you're under the weather. Having the right
Pre-Load makes a big difference. The dealer that set
installed mine set it at a 1/4 inch when it should have been
1/2. Putting it right helped the handling and the bounce
for me.
bdn56 05-09-2008, 08:30 AM Barbara, I don't have holes on each side for my shocks. Mine has a 3 inch slotted rail for adjustment. It is in the most rearward position. I need to get the installation manual from the dealer.
bdn56 05-09-2008, 08:35 AM I almost forgot, I checked all my tire pressures again. I must have missed the kit tires last weekend before I rode. The front tire was 38lbs, the rear was 40lbs, the shocks 30lbs but the kit tires were 42 and 40? Max pressure for mounting is 40lbs. I lowered them to 30lbs. Made a huge difference on the bounce. Thanks.
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omega5m14 05-09-2008, 02:40 PM Max for the Kit tires is 20lb psi. That could have a lot to do with
your bounce problem. Email me at deredmon@highland.net and I'll
send you the Pre-Load instructions that has the max tire pressure in RED plus the pre-load data you need.
File's to big to upload on this site.
Put MTC Voyager in the Subject so I don't delete it as spam.;)
Spudster 05-09-2008, 06:09 PM What's 'pre-load' guys? Myabe I'm missing something here.
omega5m14 05-09-2008, 06:16 PM Pre-Load sets the amount of lean you are suppose to get
depending on the weight of the bike. Mine was set wrong
when installed and when I set it right, it made one hell of
a difference in the handling of my bike. It's easy to do
really. Send me an email and I'll send you the instructions
if you need them.
Ride safe,
Dano
Spudster 05-09-2008, 10:35 PM Dano,
E-mail sent. Thanks.
dw2169 05-09-2008, 11:26 PM You can go on the Voyager site and get some really good preload instructions, I preloaded my Utra at a half inch to start and increased it o 3/4 of inch at the end. It made a big difference in the way the bike handled.
omega5m14 05-10-2008, 06:41 AM I got 2 emails last night and answered them. Don't know if
you were one of them or not. If not try again. This new spam
service my provider has catches a lot of emails from people
I regularly email with and I and my provider can't seem to
figure out a fix without allowing everything thru.
Spudster 05-12-2008, 06:35 PM Bryan, I meant the rails to the shocks....there's four holes (I think). I had my shocks on the 2nd hole and then moved to the 3rd hole. Made a big different in ride.
Dano, Didn't receive anything on Pre-Load???
omega5m14 05-12-2008, 07:40 PM Barbara, email me at deredmon@highland.net I sent them to Bryan
and someone else. I'll be more than glad to send them to you.
Ride safe,
Dano
bdn56 05-13-2008, 03:18 PM dw, each time I scroll through here I see a beautiful red trike. I sure get the urge? When you changed your preload to 3/4 inch, didn't it take away some of your lean ability?
The more you preload, would seem to me it would tighten up the suspension even more?
Dano's instructions forpreloadingwere great. Much easier with a picture or two. Thanks Dano.
I am going to lower my tire pressure to 20 lbs like Dano and the instructions say. Mine is riding better every day. I hope 20 lbs air pressure will make it Even better.
Barbara, you have mentioned the possibility of sheering the front mounting bolt? Mine is a 1" grade 8 bolt. I can't imagine breaking it. Have other people done it? I may need to slow down in the corners.
I have started physical therapy. I am not a happy camper when I leave their office. If I mis-spell a word or ramble on, blame it on the Lortab pills I am swallowing.
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Spudster 05-13-2008, 06:07 PM 20# air in kit tires...thought mine said 40#? Haven't had a problem with air pressure, but will check 'em before heading to Shasta on the 29th.
omega5m14 05-13-2008, 06:28 PM Email rcvd and instructions sent;)
dw2169 05-13-2008, 06:41 PM The 3/4 inch preload was intentional to take out the outward lean in the corners that makes you feel like you are going to be thrown off. I was hoping to get a more secure feel to it. I also was trying to find out how hard you could go in corners without breaking something. I am sure you would break the u-bolts before you broke the one inch bolts. I had also talked to someone who had seen a Voyager let go on a bike and said it wasn't pretty. Of course, I don't know if bolts were kept tight and checked regularly either. I would think that would definately be part of a preride inspection. My books also said 20 lbs. of air pressure in the Voyager tires. I put more in the right tire (22 lbs.) and 20 in the left to try and compensate for the crown in the road. Not sure it helped or not. My shocks were in the hole that made them as straight up and down as possible. I also made sure the springs were set an equal distance from the the bike . I can not say enough about the way the new Trike rides. I corner as good as my friends on two wheels. Put 500 miles on last weekend and enjoyed every minute. I can turn it around in the midle of a two lane highway with room to spare. I haven't needed reverse yet but am careful where I park. I really like having a six gallon tank. The wife says shefeels so much more secure and is able to relax and enjoy the ride again. Ii averaged 39 mpg on the last run as the motor is starting to break in. I'll be glad when I don't have to keep varying the speed and can ride and use the cruise control. I sure look forward to making the first run over the Beartooth Mountain Pass. We've had so much snow that they are hoping they can get theroad open by Memorial Weekend. You go from 5000 feet to 11,000 feet in about 20 miles. Lots of twists and turns. Hope to meet you all out on the road.
DW
bdn56 05-15-2008, 09:13 AM I had to search through the posts to find the answer. WCking (Paul) said he changed the hose clamp to a fabricated U-bolt. After looking under the frame of the kit, that part is the only one I could see that could fail?
Paul, do you have any dimensions or pictures of this u-bolt? I am starting to get braver on cornering and need to be secure going through them. I don't want to slow down too much.
Thanks.
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bdn56 06-06-2008, 08:04 AM Good morning everyone, \\; just passed 1000 miles with the kit. \\; \\;All the adjustments \\;have been \\;completed and fine tuned. \\; Now I just ride and hang on. \\; Everybody was correct on getting used to it. \\; \\; After my arms and butt got in shape, \\; my mind soon followed. \\;
My best investment was a drivers backrest. \\; Takes a lot of the pressure off my back and arms going through the big turns. \\; \\; Ride safe.
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I have only one complaint. \\; Why do I hit every pothole in the state? \\; \\; Those extra two tires?
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omega5m14 06-06-2008, 04:43 PM We love ours. \\; I ride my Ultra all week but come the weekend
and the wife wants the trike. ;)
Spudster 06-07-2008, 09:48 PM Got home Monday the 2nd from the Pacific Rally in Mt. Shasta....1,392 miles. Rode down by myself. Five of us left Shasta Sunday morning, up Hwy 97 to Bend. Took a side trip to Crater Lake. Rode from Bend to home solo. Sure glad local voyager dealer fixed my kit.
omega5m14 06-08-2008, 10:59 AM "Sure glad local voyager dealer fixed my kit."
What'd the dealer do?????[sm=smiley25.gif]
Thanks \\;
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Spudster 06-08-2008, 04:01 PM Shocks were installed in the inside instead of the outside of the rails. U-clamp was barely hanging and worn to a frog's hair! Very dangerous. All fixed before trekking to Shasta.
omega5m14 06-08-2008, 04:11 PM I bet that did make a difference. \\; Inside the rail is for scooters,
not bikes. \\; How close to vertical are your shocks? \\; Mine were
set at about the middle of the slot, probably about 15 to 20 degree angle. \\; I moved them to about 10 degrees and found
that it rides a lot better.
Dano
bdn56 06-09-2008, 10:48 AM Glad you made it back safely. \\; That would have been a long trip for me. \\; Got any pics of the trip?
I guess I'm a peabrain, \\; what are the rails your talking about? \\; My last computer crash took out my ability to play DVDs. \\; My installation DVD won't work.
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All I can see is the frame, leaf springs and shock mounts?
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I hope this will finally post.
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valveguide 06-09-2008, 08:56 PM Just sharing a pic of my bearings from above with no weight on the bike.
Probably this was the best alteration I have done.
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bdn56 06-25-2008, 02:21 PM Hello everyone. \\; I guess I'll get my first chance to ride in a thunder storm today with my voyager kit. \\; Looks like the clouds just set in. \\; I'll put on the rain suit and head out. \\; Wish me luck.
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Spudster 06-25-2008, 02:47 PM Holy moly, thunder storm? Riding? Be careful. If you see lightning, count 1001,1002, etc. until you hear the thunder...that will tell you how far away the lightning really is.
bdn56 06-25-2008, 03:13 PM I get off from work in 20 minutes. \\; We have only had a 10 to 20% chance of rain? \\; I need to wash the bugs off my bike. \\; \\;
badinfluence63 06-25-2008, 08:13 PM BDN,
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This won't be the first time you've looked death in the face and scoffed.....of course as you get older it gets a little scarier!
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Hope it went well.
dw2169 06-25-2008, 09:10 PM BDN, Ride it like you stole it. Have a great ride, what's a little moisture and you aren't going to fall over if the bike slips a little.
msgtdoc 06-28-2008, 07:54 PM I HOPE THIS IS THE RIGHT PLACE TO PUT THIS. I HAVE An A KIT FOR SALE.CAME OFF MY 05 SOFTTAIL FXST. ANYONE INTERESTED CONTACT ME OFF LINE AT
msgtdoc@zoominternet.net
Spudster 06-28-2008, 08:00 PM Prolly isn't the right place for selling your kit.....but, my EGC/kit is for sale:D
bdn56 06-30-2008, 10:07 AM  \\; \\; \\; I wish I could have found a used kit. \\; I couldn't find one anyplace that would ship it. \\;
 \\; \\; \\;
 \\; \\; \\; The Motorcycle parts for sale section would work. \\;
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 \\; \\; \\; Barbara, have you decided to get a trike kit? \\; I think I may have to get one eventually. \\; I don't know if I can ever hold up \\;1000lbs anymore?
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roleggs 08-12-2008, 10:27 AM I do not own a Harley but I do read this forum about the Voyager trike kits,as I am concedering having one put on my bike. I did fine this video may be helpful.
http://www.thetrikemanusa.com/VideoInstall.html
bdn56 08-13-2008, 08:09 AM After seeing the video, I purchased a voyager kit. Not bad for the money. Thanks for the link.
roleggs 08-13-2008, 01:18 PM Here is the link to The Trike Man , this guy very easy to deal with,very helpful.
http://www.thetrikemanusa.com/
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