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hard ass rigid - 3/7/2008 2:07:12 PM   
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thought you would enjoy the pic.  it is the most uncomfortable ride ever!!!  i thought it would look cool to do a rigid with a solid mount seat and will never recomend it to anyone..ever!  i went for all look and no comfort, so my kidneys are paying for it.  the bike im building now is a soft tail...learned my lesson







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RE: hard ass rigid - 3/7/2008 2:12:33 PM   
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Slap some air springs under that seat and ease the pain!

Bad ass scoot!

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RE: hard ass rigid - 3/7/2008 2:16:59 PM   
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here is the latest version with new wheels





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RE: hard ass rigid - 3/7/2008 2:19:58 PM   
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Is the oil bag under the tranny, Dyna style?

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RE: hard ass rigid - 3/7/2008 2:22:47 PM   
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thought you would enjoy the pic.  it is the most uncomfortable ride ever!!!  i thought it would look cool to do a rigid with a solid mount seat and will never recomend it to anyone..ever!  i went for all look and no comfort, so my kidneys are paying for it.  the bike im building now is a soft tail...learned my lesson


And your point is?


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RE: hard ass rigid - 3/7/2008 2:28:37 PM   
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Is the oil bag under the tranny, Dyna style?


yeah, i made an under tranny box for the oil bag.  it was a pretty tight squeeze, but managed to get 3 quarts of oil in it. 


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RE: hard ass rigid - 3/7/2008 2:29:50 PM   
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thought you would enjoy the pic.  it is the most uncomfortable ride ever!!!  i thought it would look cool to do a rigid with a solid mount seat and will never recomend it to anyone..ever!  i went for all look and no comfort, so my kidneys are paying for it.  the bike im building now is a soft tail...learned my lesson


And your point is?


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build a softail or a rigid with a sprung seat! 


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RE: hard ass rigid - 3/7/2008 2:57:31 PM   
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Didn't bother me til my ass shrunk, I now have added some foam to the Cobra and it's just fine. At 60 I'm ready for a softer seat, will have mine redone while I'm rebuilding the chop after my accident. The main problem I've had is when you hit a big bump it wants to slam you back into the fender, padding at the ass holds you in the seat. I just never liked the spring seats much. Just a personal thing.

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RE: hard ass rigid - 3/7/2008 3:54:40 PM   
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yeah, that seat ain't what I'd call a keeper. If you do up a real seat, you might like it a little better.
If the fender can support it, a King/queen with back support. you can add some gel and three inches of foam.

Have you ever given any thought to flipping the headlight over? Just curious. But it is one baddd
baddd ride...

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RE: hard ass rigid - 3/8/2008 9:25:41 PM   
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What is the tooth count of your final drive sprockets? How do you like the match?

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RE: hard ass rigid - 3/8/2008 9:30:06 PM   
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Here's one I'm putting together.


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RE: hard ass rigid - 3/8/2008 11:27:37 PM   
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Smart move on the mid-shift.

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RE: hard ass rigid - 3/9/2008 1:57:57 AM   
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Beautiful machine,rode mine for 6 yrs.Roads are just too bad up our way and back is beyond that punishment.

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RE: hard ass rigid - 3/9/2008 9:15:00 PM   
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What is the tooth count of your final drive sprockets? How do you like the match?



i believe the front is a 22 from what i remember.  the rear is a 48t.  i dont mind the match in sprockets and havent even considered changing it.  off the line is ok and highway speed is good enough.  i think i'll stick with it.  are you setting yours up now? 


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RE: hard ass rigid - 3/9/2008 11:07:07 PM   
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Yeah it's in progress now. I'm no bike builder but hopefully it will turn out to be a fair backyard build!
The sprocket is the last part to choose, all the other parts are waiting to go on. I'm weak on gear ratio's so I've been looking for advice everywhere. I got the impression the 22 / 48 was pretty low and gives good low end performance but lowers your highway top speed. I'm looking for good medium ground, I don't want to drag race, but i dont want to sacrifice the torque of takoff for low highway rpm's.
I'll probably go with a 23 tooth unless someone says otherwise.

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RE: hard ass rigid - 3/10/2008 6:33:23 AM   
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For what it's worth, I ran for years with a 20/49 and had terrific acceleration, even ran at the drags for a couple of years. Unfortunately, this ratio also made for a real busy engine at 60-70mph, not real comfortable. Recently switched to a 24/49 and 60-70 is now in a smooth part of the rpm range. Doesn't have the same launch but makes for a better ride all around. Still has a great 50 mph rollon for passing. 23/48 is a similar ration and should work for you. A chop is considerably lighter the most HDs and doesn't need a "granny low" to get it moving.

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RE: hard ass rigid - 4/5/2008 3:07:57 PM   
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So now you know why they are called hardtails.Make your tail hard from abuse.I just finished one.Its just bar hopper though 10 to 12 mile shots most times so after 5 or 6 bars ass already numb.
  But hey its cool bike.Im not much on the high frontends myself.but that the fun of it.Its still looks cool just never liked the handling point.

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RE: hard ass rigid - 4/5/2008 11:00:28 PM   
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I like it......................... . . . ..If I like the bike I can handle the ride................... . . . .............

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RE: hard ass rigid - 4/13/2008 8:13:49 AM   
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I've hard if you let a little air out in the back tire that will help....problem is you have no sidewall, so you're kinda screwed.

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RE: hard ass rigid - 4/13/2008 8:39:03 AM   
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Sweet bikes!!!

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RE: hard ass rigid - 4/13/2008 11:41:37 AM   
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Don't recommend lower than 35 psi, too soft and you're likely to pop the bead if you hit something. Handling will be a lot squirrelier than normal if you hit any kind of sweeper at speed. For you guys smilin' cause you got tubes, the handling is only worse because of the additional weight of the tubes floppin' around. I've been riding hardtails for 45 yrs and found the secret to a smooth ride is in the seat, the type, the fit, cushions or springs.
Also keep in mind that the less air pressure the more that tire will grow, they do, like a drag slick. I learned that when my seat mount bolt cut the center out of a brand new Dunlop. Pump it up, Pad the seat, ride like you want!

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RE: hard ass rigid - 4/13/2008 10:54:52 PM   
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Nice scoot!

I've had my current bike for 30 years. I run about 22 lbs. in the rear, but I have some sidewall. Its a 130/90-16, basically a stock tire. Got a contour seat, so hardly any padding, about 1-1/2 inch foam.

I trimmed down the seat bolt so I didn't slash the tire.

As far as a rough ride, you'll get used to it. I did! I  .  .  .  sorry, gotta pee! (The kidneys aren't what they used to be.)  :)



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RE: hard ass rigid - 4/14/2008 2:32:27 AM   
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that is killer man!  That bike is too hot to just toss aside, put a thicker seat or a spring seat on it.

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RE: hard ass rigid - 4/18/2008 8:43:16 AM   
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ouahhhhhhh excellent ! i like your bike, it's real beautiful chopper.

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RE: hard ass rigid - 4/19/2008 8:57:54 PM   
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sharp ride!!

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RE: hard ass rigid - 5/2/2008 3:16:35 PM   
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My ass hurts just looking at it.

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RE: hard ass rigid - 5/28/2008 8:52:44 PM   
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thanks guys.  i still ride it every chance i get.  now that the weather is nice i'll be taking it out every chance i get.  i'm young so the back can deal with it for now...

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RE: hard ass rigid - 5/29/2008 5:40:30 PM   
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got a plate for mine tuesday and have put on about a hundred miles. The ride is't bad at all till I get up to 65 - 70 then the vibration is severe, more in the feet than the hands. I don't know if some fine tuning will smooth it out or not.

I traveled a few bumpy roads and it does take some of the fun out of it; not just the bumping but also the uncontrolable twisting of throttle causes a bit of lurching... that gets old quick!

I don't recommend going fenderless unless you want a shower every time you pass through water, I mean any water. I went through a few puddles and streams after a rain and was shocked by how much water came up in my face. I quickly learned to look to the side when crossing water!


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RE: hard ass rigid - 5/30/2008 6:19:28 AM   
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Helpful hints from another Hardtail rider:
A) I upped my gear ratio with a larger main drive trans sprocket, smooth up to 80+.
B) Set the drag on your throttle so it will just back off when you let go, will smooth out the action on the bumpies.
C) Get a fricken front fender.

Good Luck, enjoy!



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RE: hard ass rigid - 5/30/2008 6:57:49 AM   
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Thanks DeJavu, I'm allready shopping for the fender.
I have a 23 tooth sprocket on the trany, and a 48 tooth at the back wheel.

I discovered that when I start bumping I can bridge the gap between the throttle and the mount with my thumb and that keeps the throttle from slapping back and forth.

Here is another problem. Last night the backside of my ignition switch poped off.
I have it mounted off of the upper motor mount which gets pretty hot.
Could it be that this location is too hot for the switch or is the switch just a piece of crap!

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RE: hard ass rigid - 5/30/2008 7:36:14 AM   
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The combination of heat and vibs, plus a cheap switch, yea it can't take it. I located a standard old style automotive key switch(on/off/acc) on a small bracket on the frame under the seat. Has lasted 14 yrs.
I run 24/48 but that would not raise the vib range much over 23/48. Mine hits it between 70 and 80, over 80 it smooths out, lets me know if I'm speeding.
If you want to cut some of the hand vibes, experiment with different weights placed inside the handlebars at the grips, it helps if you find something that works. The Kury Iso pegs/pads can help the foot vibes.
Rigid or Sloptail the vibration is a challenge, Good Luck!

PS Damn though, the rigid hooks up so good on the drag strip, what a blast!

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RE: hard ass rigid - 5/30/2008 3:42:44 PM   
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Why not try a king/queen seat? That's what I have on my rigid and it makes for a pretty good ride with lots of lower back support.


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RE: hard ass rigid - 6/1/2008 12:01:54 AM   
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Put the switch back together and pined the back throught the side with bailing wire ('bout 3/32" dia.)

Rode another 100 miles and still holding together! The temp was about 103 degrees.
It's not nearly as comfortable or as quick as my twincam but more satifying!

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RE: hard ass rigid - 6/1/2008 3:28:50 PM   
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Get a better seat. like a corbin.  My hardtail is not bad at all with the corbin.  or a solo spring


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