RE: DYNO Numbers for Baggers???
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RE: DYNO Numbers for Baggers??? - 3/20/2008 10:05:48 PM
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SeadogCVA43
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07 SG
Screaming Eagle Racing Slip ons
SE RaceTuner
SE Hi Flow breather kit
Dyno'ed at 86HP
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RE: DYNO Numbers for Baggers??? - 3/21/2008 8:33:20 AM
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HDADDING
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Just had my '07 StreetGlide Dyno tuned last weekend and, from the looks of it, my HP is coming in a little lower than average, but I couldn't be happier with the torque for nothing but stage one upgrades. In fact, based on the posts in this thread, I'm still wondering how my spread between the two is so large??? Coming from someone who's just getting up to speed with how to read and interpret these results it seems like most of the other posts in this thread have their torque and HP numbers coming in a little closer to one another.
72.8HP and 100ft/lbs at 2,565RPM
2007 StreetGlide
Stage 1 air filter upgrade
V&H True Duals w Turndown Tips
SERT
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RE: DYNO Numbers for Baggers??? - 3/27/2008 11:09:46 AM
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rochkes
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Just had mine dynoed and tuned yesterday. A little low on hp, but great tq.
Dennis
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2008 black Street Glide
103ci, SERT,SE 255 cams
vance & hines true duals with ovals
82 hp
102 tq
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RE: DYNO Numbers for Baggers??? - 3/27/2008 5:55:01 PM
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rochkes
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this is the first "non stock" anything I have ever had. Way beyond stock in the seat, but I can see it is not much compared to some others posted on here. I am not disappointed. Everyone has to start somewhere. I will keep studying and be much more informed if I ever decide to do anything different.
Dennis
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2008 black Street Glide
103ci, SERT,SE 255 cams
vance & hines true duals with ovals
82 hp
102 tq
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RE: DYNO Numbers for Baggers??? - 3/27/2008 7:47:05 PM
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empireking13
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getting my engine done now .... 03 electra glide std. 103 stroker flywheel ( trued welded and pluged ) gerolomy wa3 heads je flat top pistons woods 9fg cams s/e oil pump power commander and freedom cycle true duals expecting 120 hp and 115 torque
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RE: DYNO Numbers for Baggers??? - 3/27/2008 8:14:45 PM
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Ozoneman
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Just did SERT and Dyno tune.
HP 71.2
Torque 73.72
Air/Fuel at 13.5 through run, with 14 max and 13 min.
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RE: DYNO Numbers for Baggers??? - 3/30/2008 7:44:21 PM
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GScotty
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08 POSE Ultra Classic
Big Sucker Air Cleaner
Vance & Hines Basic Slip-ons
PC III
Max Power = 74.25
Max Torque = 86.18
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RE: DYNO Numbers for Baggers??? - 4/1/2008 8:45:48 PM
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Ultra007
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New here but I think I may have some relavent info.. When I get my charts "digitized" i"ll post them.
First thing is concerning 2007 and I think 2008 are the same. Proven fact that due to primary drive changes, these bikes will lose approx. 8 - 10hp at the rear wheel. Next, the relationship of torque to horsepower is a constant - hp = torque x rpm / 5250. You will notice that ALL charts cross at 5250, it's a formula.
Peak numbers mean little as they are at different rpm's. AFR is nearly as irrelevant as it is at Wide Open Throttle, 10% at most of your motors life is run there. AFR at idle and partial throttle positions is more important so make sure to quiz your dyno man.
I have had 2 bikes built using all SE parts when possible and yes I said ALL SE parts.
2004 Heritage - 95", stock heads reworked locally, forged flattop pistons, 251 cams, power commander, stock pipes with SE II mufflers
91 hp and 95 lbs. - exhaust would jump the numbers but it's my wifes bike and she likes it this way.
2007 Ultra - 103", SE Performance heads (cleaned up castings), 251 cams, forged flattops, adj. pushrods, 10.5 to 1 comp., SE Race Tuner.
Stock pipes with SuperTrapp SE slipons - 90 hp and 103 lbs.
Stock pipes with "Y-pipe" modification and SuperTrapp SE slipons - 95 hp and 107 lbs.
Rinehart True Duals (stepped headers) - 104 hp and 114 lbs.
Very respectable considering the 2007 drive loss issues. Any more power would require bigger throttle body and injectors.
All three combinations were dyno tuned. My guy still uses 4th gear S.A.E.. More shops are using 5th gear STD resulting in slightly higher numbers as well.
Conclusion-
Rineharts woke this big boy up without much of a "Rinehart torque dip".
And my wife will likely still kick my butt.
Ultra007
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RE: DYNO Numbers for Baggers??? - 4/2/2008 5:53:18 PM
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egliderider37
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just doing some work on my 07 and need to know if anyone has done true duals with slip ons and know stage one or download.
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RE: DYNO Numbers for Baggers??? - 4/3/2008 4:18:31 AM
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Ultra007
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OMG Mistral! With a torque band like that, you must have problems getting shirt sleeves long enough!
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RE: DYNO Numbers for Baggers??? - 4/4/2008 6:09:05 AM
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ANVHOG
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I have a 2003 FLHTCU-I with Head-Quarters 98" HPV heads with HG00-39 Gear drive cams, Vance&Hines true duals, SE II slip on mufflers, SE 6 Speed Trany, High Flow AC, S.E.R.T. 117 HP with 114 FT LBS TQ. 47.5 MPG @ 65 MPH. I have over 15 hours of tuning time. If you get your bike back from a dyno tune in 4-5 hours you have a basic map. Most dyno tuners fail to look @ the ignition table and see what it has to offer. A .25 degree in ignition can make a differance. I have written the MAP myself so the cost was very low. Most individuals won't spend that kind of money to have a tech sped 15 + hours dyno time with some dyno rates @ 60-100 dollars per hour. The results in performance and fuel ecconomey are phenominal if done correctly. I have heard complaints about gear drive whine!!! If installed correctly and you boost oil pressure to run 55 psi with 20 psi @idle engine temp and noise will be a noticable differance. The gears that must be used have to have made in USA stamped on them and gear clearance must be checked and set. If you use a gear set that is not stamped USA you will have a very noticable whine. A gear drive set up is not just a bolt in one time and go. Time must be taken to have gear clearance correct. Good luck with riders useing S.E.R.T. It is a great compliment to any engine build if tuned to its potential.
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RE: DYNO Numbers for Baggers??? - 4/8/2008 3:50:20 AM
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Chuck1
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quote:
ORIGINAL: TJB50
Just got my dyno numbers for my 07 EGC. Before mods. - Max. power 73.51, Max. torque 85.83. After SE SuperTrapps, SE air filter & SERT - Max. power 77.23, Max. torque 92.63 and a much smoother graph. I'm pleased with the outcome.
I have the same set up as you TJ but I didn't have mine dynoed. I wonder how close my numbers are to yours?? It runs great, not sure if I'll have it dynoed or not??
It would be interesting to see your numbers before they dynoed it after the mods were done.
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RE: DYNO Numbers for Baggers??? - 4/9/2008 6:13:24 AM
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galtjunk
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1995 Electra Glide
89" Ultima Stroker kit
Crane Hi4e ignition
Crane Cam
Six Speed
PeaceMaker Pipes
Head work
HP 78
Torque 79
I'll try to scan the sheet and get it uploaded.
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RE: DYNO Numbers for Baggers??? - 4/11/2008 5:10:17 AM
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sparky_mo
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My dyno numbers.
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RE: DYNO Numbers for Baggers??? - 4/12/2008 10:37:32 AM
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Hamps
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Numbers in sig. I need to find a scanner for the dyno sheet.
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2008 Crimson Red Street Glide
103 Stage II
SE 255
SE AC
SERT
Bub 7's True Duals w/o crossover
94.42 HP
114.11 TQ
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RE: DYNO Numbers for Baggers??? - 4/13/2008 6:45:46 AM
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SGATL
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2007 Street Glide
113 Cu. inch kit installed by HD
Boarzilla 2 into 1 (considering change to Fat Cats)
264 SE cam
SE hi flo filter
CNC Ported Heads
110 h/p 110 torque
Any ideas how to gain h/p and torque and stay under warranty
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RE: DYNO Numbers for Baggers??? - 4/13/2008 7:33:59 AM
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jcrosby150
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Just installed:
Screaming eagle Heavy Breather
Cobra 4" Slip-on exhaust
Fullsac conversion
PCIII
Used PC Map 802-013
I'm running some what rich in the 2100 to 2400 rpm range and from 3300 up.
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RE: DYNO Numbers for Baggers??? - 4/18/2008 5:05:29 AM
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Tn.Heritage
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Had my bike redynoed after I did some baffle changes which helped by the way.
81 & some change on hp.
94tq.
I will try and take a picture of the dyno sheet and post, the tq curve is great and the bike pulls strong, If I only had the $ for a bigger cam. 
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95"
KB pistons
V&H tru duals
SE 203's
PCIII
Big Boyz Heads
81hp
94tq
Alot of Smiles.
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RE: DYNO Numbers for Baggers??? - 4/18/2008 8:33:13 AM
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rodeking
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My 2007 ulltra put down 73 hp and 88 ft lbs on a dynojet. V & H true duals, oval mufflers, SE 1 air filter, PC III,. The torque came up pretty quick and was flat across the chart untill about 5000 rpms and started dropping off.
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RE: DYNO Numbers for Baggers??? - 4/19/2008 7:51:06 PM
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NC_RIDER
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-my 06 heads decked .050, minor porting and clean-up,stock valves, Manley springs, Jims compression releases
--my cylinders bored to 3 7/8
--Wiseco forged 9:1 flat tops
--SE adjustable pushrods
--stock carb with Zippers HPCV mod (.195main, .48 slow, 1200sporster needle)
--Zippers oil shim
--HQ0034G cam and S&S gear drive
--HQ6104 ignition (Same as TwinTec!)
--D&D Fatcat with standard baffel
--3.37 primary gearing (will probably change back to stock)
--SE breather with K&N filter exposed
--final compression should be close to 10:1
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RE: DYNO Numbers for Baggers??? - 4/19/2008 9:49:30 PM
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nemick
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Hi All,
Noob here,but learning. I'm riding an '07 Road king Classic.
SE stage 1 intake
SERT
Bub7 true duals, no crosspipe
74.06 HP
84.76 ft/lbs torque
Does this sound reasonable?
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RE: DYNO Numbers for Baggers??? - 4/20/2008 4:51:53 AM
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dcfatboy
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Can you post the curves?
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RE: DYNO Numbers for Baggers??? - 4/20/2008 9:50:26 AM
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Tn.Heritage
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Heres my dyno from my build this winter, this is a sae run.
It actually made 94tq but he printed the wrong pg, but I am happy.
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95"
KB pistons
V&H tru duals
SE 203's
PCIII
Big Boyz Heads
81hp
94tq
Alot of Smiles.
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RE: DYNO Numbers for Baggers??? - 4/20/2008 6:36:25 PM
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nemick
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DCfatboy,
I'm out of town until Tuesday, I'll try and post them then.
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RE: DYNO Numbers for Baggers??? - 4/22/2008 8:23:36 AM
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nemick
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HI Again,
Here is the dyno sheet from my '07 RKC. I can't say that I am overly impressed and my sheet is the first one I have seen which shows thehp and tq converging at a point other than 5250rpm. Does this mean anything?
Thanks
'07 RKC
SERT
SE A/c
BUB7 True Duals, no crossover
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RE: DYNO Numbers for Baggers??? - 4/22/2008 8:37:40 AM
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dcfatboy
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Thanks for posting.
Your curves do not meet at 5250 RPM because the HP and TQ scales are different (10-80 and 20-90).
I think the shape of your TQ curve is good. I am not too familiar with 07 stock engine numbers. However, my bike got around those numbers with true duals and an 88" engine (see the 3rd TQ curve in my sig).
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RE: DYNO Numbers for Baggers??? - 4/22/2008 8:56:10 AM
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nemick
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DC Fatboy,
Thanks for the response. I guess the different scales would make a difference, lol. I'm pleased to hear that the torque curve looks okay, now I just need to figure out how to make bigger numbers.
Thanks Again
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