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RE: DYNO Numbers for Baggers??? - 3/5/2006 6:53:18 PM   
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ROADKING CUSTOM 05
HTCC CNC HEADS
HTCC PISTONS
SE 251 CAMS
RHINEHEART PIPES
DYNO 95 HP 96TQ

NOW HAVE WOODS 6HG GEARDRIVE CAMS AND IT SEEMS TO BE STRONGER,WILL POST AFTER DYNO AND TUNE,LOOKINF FOR 110-115 HP,FEELS LIKE IT WILL DO IT.

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RE: DYNO Numbers for Baggers??? - 3/5/2006 7:33:55 PM   
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Going in wednesday for a dyno
bought screaming race tuner
stage1 air claener
installed rinehart slip ons
do you need any info before and after

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RE: DYNO Numbers for Baggers??? - 3/5/2006 8:19:33 PM   
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ORIGINAL: bountyhunter

Was at the dyno shop yesterday to witness a run. A completely stock appearing '05 black Electra Glide Standard (other than a velocity stack and compression releases). Must have had SOME internal work..... cause it showed.....146 HP.....on the screen. WOW, that was impressive. I thought the dyno chamber was going to explode!


I would bet that's a 124" motor.....I saw one at the dealer in a Lowrider looking nearly stock save the velocity stack and S&S Super D carb making almost 172 HP.....check these out.

http://www.latus-harley-davidson.com/mbbs2/forums/thread-view.asp?tid=123&posts=6

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RE: DYNO Numbers for Baggers??? - 3/5/2006 10:52:09 PM   
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While its great these numbers are being posted, remember they are peak numbers which are great fro bragging. But with baggers its the down low torque that really matters


Bruce - The intent of the thread was to post the dyno numbers to compare exhaust systems. I don't here anybody bragging. That's how pissing matches get started. You could start another thread that asks for people to post their torque numbers from idle to 3500 rpm if that's what
you want to see.

BZ


BZ
Never said anyone was.......after spending mucho $$$ on dyno pulls for the past 5 yrs, all I was doing was pointing out something that maybe people don't know. Afterall, someone asked how to read a graph, so not everybody is up on dyno pulls.
Btw........the best peak hp numbers will come from long open pipes. But your neighbors and local police might not like it

Nothing more.....nothing less



Good point Bruce. Always good to keep these things as informative as possible. That's why I'm here.

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RE: DYNO Numbers for Baggers??? - 3/5/2006 11:49:45 PM   
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I'm a bit disappointed with the lack of entries on this thread. With all the talk about what exhaust is the best I have not seen any dyno numbers.




Ok here you go....

97" Wiseco 10.5:1
Basiley Supper Stock Head Job
S&S 510G Cams
S&S Supper E Carb with Doherty PowerPacc Breather Kit
Dayton twin Tec Ignition
With the RINEHARTS TRUE DUALS 93HP & 103TQ All the TQ & HP was in the Higher RPM Bike was a flat Out Dog until 4000 RPM.

With 2-1 Thunderheader 97HP & 104TQ Power is now in the Lower RPM, Peak Power is at 4800RPM.
My bike is alot more fun to ride now.


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RE: DYNO Numbers for Baggers??? - 3/7/2006 2:30:30 PM   
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New to the forums, but thought I'd add in my numbers

06 Street Glide
95" SE Stage II kit with 203 cam
Stock Heads
K&N Air filter
SERT
Python Slash-cut Slipons
Air Fuel Ratio right above 13

Max HP: 84.9 @ 5400 RPM
Max Torque: 101.2 ft-lbs @ 3500 RPM

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RE: DYNO Numbers for Baggers??? - 3/7/2006 2:53:57 PM   
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CHEYENNE,

Have you installed your V/H bagger duels yet?
Do you have dyno runs for each exhaust change?
Thanks for the info.

magnoliarunner

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RE: DYNO Numbers for Baggers??? - 3/7/2006 3:42:27 PM   
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Those numbers are scary.
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ORIGINAL: bountyhunter

Was at the dyno shop yesterday to witness a run. A completely stock appearing '05 black Electra Glide Standard (other than a velocity stack and compression releases). Must have had SOME internal work..... cause it showed.....146 HP.....on the screen. WOW, that was impressive. I thought the dyno chamber was going to explode!


I would bet that's a 124" motor.....I saw one at the dealer in a Lowrider looking nearly stock save the velocity stack and S&S Super D carb making almost 172 HP.....check these out.

http://www.latus-harley-davidson.com/mbbs2/forums/thread-view.asp?tid=123&posts=6



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RE: DYNO Numbers for Baggers??? - 3/7/2006 8:31:58 PM   
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At over 125 horse you better be thinking about converting to rear chain drive etc. Most rear belt drives won't hold up long to that kind of power.

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RE: DYNO Numbers for Baggers??? - 3/9/2006 5:28:23 PM   
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2005 electraglide classic

stage 1 air cleaner
rinehart slipons
with se race tuner

before
63.48power
70.30 max tourque

after
70.16 max power
77.04 max tourque

Im happy I love the sound of the rineharts

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RE: DYNO Numbers for Baggers??? - 3/10/2006 8:22:49 PM   
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96 h.p.
96 torque
2005 FLHTI
With S.E. Slip on mufflers and 95" flat tops, S.E.air cleaner, 12.9 a/f ratio with S.E.Race Tuner, Andrews 31G cam, .030 Cometic gaskets, S.E. out of the box stock Performance heads. Will be re-dynoing with the new air cleaner and Super Trapps soon.


New dyno numbers in:

I was hoping for more......here's what I got changing from S.E.Slip on exhaust to Super Trapp 2 into 1 system.
Gained 3 horse and lost 9/10's of a foot pound of torque, dissapointed but oh well.....
Bike now has 99 horse and 95 foot pounds of torque. It was not worth the change from my S.E.Slip on's considering the cost with what was the result. It shows me the Super Trapp's weren't a big improvment over the Harley S.E.Slip on Touring Performance mufflers. All though I have a nice flat torque curve starting at 75 foot pounds of torque at 2000 rpm and climbing to 95.1 at 3200 rpm it doesn't start dropping untill 5400 rpm. Cam is still building power at 6300 rpm [rev limiter setting]. Well after studying my dyno chart closer I have picked up 10 foot pounds of torque at 3200 rpm, this should make a big difference in riding....so I am smiling now after looking closer at chart! As a added note to this, these numbers were acomplished using old gas with Stabil in it.

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RE: DYNO Numbers for Baggers??? - 3/10/2006 9:20:23 PM   
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Here's Mine,

2005 Ultra 1450 with these mods only:
Screamin' Eagle Air Cleaner Kit 29440-99C
Screamin' Eagle Pro One-Performance Mufflers 64903-99
Screamin' Eagle Pro EFI Race Tuner 32107-01D

76 HP & 82 TQ

My dyno sheet:

My air fuel chart:


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RE: DYNO Numbers for Baggers??? - 3/10/2006 9:21:48 PM   
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I'll have my RK back in a few days and post the numbers. Bassani slip ons, SERT, 95" with S&S 510g cams.


Got it back tonight. Here's the results.


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RE: DYNO Numbers for Baggers??? - 3/10/2006 10:08:18 PM   
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Stock Road Glide (88cui)
V&H Basic Slash Cuts
K&N air cleaner
stage 1 ECM download

pre dyno: 68.46HP, 68.42 ft-lbs

post dyno: 69.99 HP, 69.7 ft-lbs

Pre dyno the bike ran fine on the stage 1 down load. After addition of the PCIII and dyno run the bike popped, backfired, and ran lean, lean, lean. After I brought it home, I tried several different maps and downloads for the PCIII until I got it running to my satisfaction (seat of the pants dyno) and no pops, no backfires, and the plugs were tan not white. Plus I was getting 43 mpg instead of 37 mpg. The map I finalized on was M807-015 (V&H Classic Taperd Slip-ons, stock ECM, and SE air cleaner). I will never again pay for some block head technition to **** up my ride. I want my ride to feel good to me and not look good on paper.

Since then I have gone to the configuration listed in my sig. This set up gives minor problems as outlined elsewhere on this forum but otherwise runs great on the trial map that Steve (HDWRENCH) loaded at the time of the conversion. I'm actually afraid to dyno it as it runs gud just the way it is.



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RE: DYNO Numbers for Baggers??? - 3/11/2006 1:17:18 PM   
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2006 Road King Classic

SE air kit
SE 95" flat top pistons
SE 203 cams
Stock heads
stock exhaust
HD download

Max hp 67.50
Max Tq 72.50

Added Bassani Road Rage exhaust
Dynotuned w/PowerCommander III

Max hp 84.65
Max Tq 87.09

It has become very apparent that I need some headwork, then maybe some gear-driven cams..........where does it end?

My scanner sucks, I tried to make it more visable. Lost the numbers but you can see the hp/tq lines


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RE: DYNO Numbers for Baggers??? - 3/12/2006 12:26:57 AM   
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Bruce - Not sure who you are thinking about for your heads, but I hear nothing but good things about this shop. www.deweyspegs.com

From what I understand he can set up your heads for specifc cams. Let him know what you are looking for and he can make it happen. I have no idea how much any of it costs though.

I went with BC Gerolamy heads on my 95" build. www.bcheads.com
I have the S&S 510 gear drives. 87hp and 94tq. My builder recommended I switch to Andrews 37G cams and I would be right around 100 on the tq side. I already had the 510s so I stayed with them.

Heads and cams can get tricky. Make sure you talk to a lot of knowlegable people and get what matches your riding style.

Good luck
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RE: DYNO Numbers for Baggers??? - 3/12/2006 3:35:42 AM   
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HI, i am a new member... i have 02 road king 95 ci stage one.. stock cams.. flat tops.. vance and hines slip ons dynoed 75 lb/ft and 64 hp....

i then changed to a vance and hines pro pipe and dynoed again....also i have only a stage 1 download.. no power comm.. or sert or anything...the pro pipe dynoed 81lb/ft and 69 hp.

fuel ratio is leanest at lower rpm and shades lean throughout the powerband running mostly average of 13.5 on the ratio ......the bike is presently in the shop getting the 203 cams and a stage 2 download... then i will have to decide which tuning agent i want to go with....

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RE: DYNO Numbers for Baggers??? - 3/12/2006 1:41:27 PM   
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Bruce - Not sure who you are thinking about for your heads, but I hear nothing but good things about this shop. www.deweyspegs.com

From what I understand he can set up your heads for specifc cams. Let him know what you are looking for and he can make it happen. I have no idea how much any of it costs though.

I went with BC Gerolamy heads on my 95" build. www.bcheads.com
I have the S&S 510 gear drives. 87hp and 94tq. My builder recommended I switch to Andrews 37G cams and I would be right around 100 on the tq side. I already had the 510s so I stayed with them.

Heads and cams can get tricky. Make sure you talk to a lot of knowlegable people and get what matches your riding style.

Good luck
BZ



Thanks for the links Can't have enough to read. But fortunately I have a friend that has broken just about every piece on his Roak King in the quest for more power. He's the one that also owns the turbo 'Busa too. So I favor most things that come out of his mouth, cuz its the old thing..........Been There, Done That thing! LOL

From my Shovelhead days, Jerry Branch was the man to go to. I understand he has since sold his shop to one of the fellas that worked for him. They also have their own grinds cut by, I believe, Andrews. The new website is www.BranchFlowMetrics.com.
This is who my buddy ended up with, so Iam planning to pull the motor apart and send my heads to him and go the gear driven route. But since spring time has started here in Jersey, 70 yesterday...rain today, Iam going to ride this bit*h and wait till late fall to do something. Unless I get impatient

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RE: DYNO Numbers for Baggers??? - 3/12/2006 3:32:58 PM   
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Right on Bruce. I defintely would put Branch products on the elite list of parts to have. Good luck!

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RE: DYNO Numbers for Baggers??? - 3/12/2006 3:54:54 PM   
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Thanks man, appreaicate it

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RE: DYNO Numbers for Baggers??? - 3/13/2006 12:48:16 AM   
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ORIGINAL: Bruce00

Thanks man, appreaicate it


Hey Bruce - Just found this. It would appear to be a pretty good comparo to what you have now, and what you should expect with a cam change and a good set of heads.

http://www.msnusers.com/harleytechtalk/dynoruns.msnw?action=get_message&mview=0&ID_Message=863999&LastModified=4675563880579407060

Take care -
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RE: DYNO Numbers for Baggers??? - 3/13/2006 12:11:59 PM   
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Yes thats exactly where I want to get, from where Iam at right now. Once I get there I don't know if I'll be happy, but probably not

Here's a cleaned up verision of my dyno pull overlapped with my baseline run. A big Thank You to our very own Terry1955 for making it visable. Thanks man
The is a mistake on the sheet as it still lists my exhaust as stock, but it was in fact the Bassani



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RE: DYNO Numbers for Baggers??? - 3/14/2006 5:38:02 PM   
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well got the bike back from the dealer 4 days ago . had it in for a cam change. went ebay shopping and got a set of SE204's, new lifters and pushrods for about 200 bucks. anyway, the bike gained 9hp and 8ft lbs of torque. very happy with the mod till this morning when a jerk pulled out in front of me this am and trashed my bike I'm alive and well and buzzing on vicodin see my other post for details

03 Roadglide 88ci
ok here's the list of mods SEAC, SERT, SE204's, S&S SPO Touring slip ons. oh total #s 77hp@5800rpm, 82ftlbs@4600rpm

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RE: DYNO Numbers for Baggers??? - 3/15/2006 10:17:24 PM   
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High comp pistons, 260 cams, Rhineharts and PCIII just had it dynoed in Daytona last wek, 109.5 TQ and 107.2 HP it pulls like a raped ape and sure makes me smile which is all that matters isnt it? :)~




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RE: DYNO Numbers for Baggers??? - 3/15/2006 11:24:27 PM   
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04 Ultra... H-D Stage 1 air cleaner ( Non K&N) and Kerker Slip ons with Race Tuner 78 HP to rear wheel.

05 Busa... K&N Filter HMF High Rise Exhaust and Power Commander 171 HP to rear wheel

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RE: DYNO Numbers for Baggers??? - 3/16/2006 9:14:38 PM   
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SE257 cams
10.5 -1 SE high Comp pistons
Zippers 50mm TB
Zippers A/C
HeadQuarter Heads
Power Comander
100hp
100ft tq
V/H True Duals
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RE: DYNO Numbers for Baggers??? - 3/16/2006 10:46:35 PM   
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RE: DYNO Numbers for Baggers??? - 3/16/2006 11:21:19 PM   
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GREAT DYNO LINK

This is the best source for dyno information i have found. Some of you may have heard for Mike Stegman, he is an amazing engine builder and has spent hundreds of hours getting these numbers. Hope you guys find these as useful as I have.

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RE: DYNO Numbers for Baggers??? - 3/17/2006 12:38:21 PM   
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Took my bike the other day for a Baseline run to see where I start at.

With the CVO Injectors and everything else stock i hit 61 Hp and 69 Tq


Now to install my exhaust and dyno tuning in the next couple weeks. I'll post up the numbers then.

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RE: DYNO Numbers for Baggers??? - 3/18/2006 10:45:28 AM   
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RE: DYNO Numbers for Baggers??? - 3/21/2006 4:23:24 PM   
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RE: DYNO Numbers for Baggers??? - 3/21/2006 9:46:46 PM