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ORIGINAL: cosmicHD

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ORIGINAL: LookMaNoHands


I've tried my K-frame revolver there, but the rubber grips make for a very awkward draw. Besides, .44 mag is overkill on the road.

Don't you mean an N frame?

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ORIGINAL: cosmicHD

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ORIGINAL: AK47

Both probably. I just didnt know so many guys are packing while riding. I could understand having a rifle or something in your truck but a handgun on your bike? What are you guys so afraid of? isnt it kinda looking for trouble? Im from Canada by the way so you can probably see why this comes as a bit of a shock to me.

This coming from a guy called AK47? Classic!

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ORIGINAL: Puggy

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I'm sorry, but if you have a gun with you then you are far more likely to use a gun than if you don't have a gun with you. No one has ever been shot by a person that didn't have a gun. Personally, I find people's blind trust the government will come save them from criminals no matter the circumstances to be a bit naive. I've seen too many men get arrested for beating their wife, post bail then go home and beat their wife again. I'm not fond of being beat on and I'll shoot someone before I allow them to beat on me. Those who might like to beat on me, most likely, find that completely unreasonable but I don't much care. Still it is assinine to argue that someone carrying a gun for self-protection is no more likely to use it than someone that isn't carrying one at all. Extreme things do happen. The small chance one of those extreme things happens to you or someone around you makes you far more likely to use a gun you have than a gun you don't have. Infinitely more likely in fact no matter how small the chance.

That has got to be the most rediculous statement I've ever heard. You need to get a copy of a book called "More Guns, Less Crime" by Proffessor Lott. It debunks most, if not all, the retoric spewed by people like you and the liberal media, as well as our own government statistics. Like was stated above, since I've been carrying, I've become more passive and have a cooler head about me. Just knowing the power I have in my hand and what the end result will be if used, is enough to make me stop and think. IF I have to pull my gun, thelast thing you'll see is the muzzle flash. I won't be joking or bluffing at that point.

 

Let me clarify, I understand the literal point your making, but it makes absolutely no sense in the arguement at hand.  

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ORIGINAL: speedneeder

I suppose the bigger question is are you prepared to actually use it.

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ORIGINAL: EricVonZipper

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ORIGINAL: EricVonZipper

You ever wonder why so many Harley riders carry a weapon, when most bikers of other makes don't?

I know a lot of guys that ride Goldwings, BMWs, rice rockets, etc, and I can't think of one that carries.

Could it be more of that famous Harley biker image thing?

And for what it's worth, I've been riding Harleys for 32 years now. 

I have carried a handgun for 40 or so years and during that time I have owned a Triumph Trophy 250, a Honda 305 Dream, a Kawasaki Z1, a Sportster, a Road King and now a Street Glide.  The entire time (including the non Harley years) very few people have known or even suspected that I own a gun let alone carry one.  I don’t talk about it, I don’t flash it, and I don’t show it off.  The first time I ever want someone to learn that I am armed is when they see the muzzle flash. 

I would rather carry a weapon and never need it than rely on 911.

The only “Harley Biker” image that I am aware of these days is a bunch of old men who put Harley Davidson on everything they own or wear.  Running across the HOG members at the local dealership almost caused me to stop riding and buy a sailboat.

That is the very type I speak about sporting that Harley image b.s.  and they're everywhere.  

In this very thread,  one response to me was that "most" Harley riders are outlaws.  I contend that most of that type are pretend outlaws, and if the schit ever truly hit the fan,  a lot of them would have that piece planted far up their anal cavity.

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ORIGINAL: LilBudyWizer

I'm sorry, but if you have a gun with you then you are far more likely to use a gun than if you don't have a gun with you. No one has ever been shot by a person that didn't have a gun. Personally, I find people's blind trust the government will come save them from criminals no matter the circumstances to be a bit naive. I've seen too many men get arrested for beating their wife, post bail then go home and beat their wife again. I'm not fond of being beat on and I'll shoot someone before I allow them to beat on me. Those who might like to beat on me, most likely, find that completely unreasonable but I don't much care. Still it is assinine to argue that someone carrying a gun for self-protection is no more likely to use it than someone that isn't carrying one at all. Extreme things do happen. The small chance one of those extreme things happens to you or someone around you makes you far more likely to use a gun you have than a gun you don't have. Infinitely more likely in fact no matter how small the chance.

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ORIGINAL: Puggy

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I'm sorry, but if you have a gun with you then you are far more likely to use a gun than if you don't have a gun with you. No one has ever been shot by a person that didn't have a gun. Personally, I find people's blind trust the government will come save them from criminals no matter the circumstances to be a bit naive. I've seen too many men get arrested for beating their wife, post bail then go home and beat their wife again. I'm not fond of being beat on and I'll shoot someone before I allow them to beat on me. Those who might like to beat on me, most likely, find that completely unreasonable but I don't much care. Still it is assinine to argue that someone carrying a gun for self-protection is no more likely to use it than someone that isn't carrying one at all. Extreme things do happen. The small chance one of those extreme things happens to you or someone around you makes you far more likely to use a gun you have than a gun you don't have. Infinitely more likely in fact no matter how small the chance.

That has got to be the most rediculous statement I've ever heard. You need to get a copy of a book called "More Guns, Less Crime" by Proffessor Lott. It debunks most, if not all, the retoric spewed by people like you and the liberal media, as well as our own government statistics. Like was stated above, since I've been carrying, I've become more passive and have a cooler head about me. Just knowing the power I have in my hand and what the end result will be if used, is enough to make me stop and think. IF I have to pull my gun, thelast thing you'll see is the muzzle flash. I won't be joking or bluffing at that point.

Let me clarify, I understand the literal point your making, but it makes absolutely no sense in the arguement at hand.

Of course his statement makes sense. It's logical. It's reasonable. It's true.

If you carry a weapon, you are obviously much more likely to use that weapon than if you didn't have it (duhhhh). Sorry, and no offense intended, but anyone would have to be a dummy to argue that point.

Now, having said that, I have apx 14 firearms, including 4 handguns, and on occasion, if I feel I'm going to be in a bad area or situation, I will carry one of them. Not generally, though. One reason being that I have a short temper, and am not going to take a chance. My brother had to wrestle a 357 magnum from a guy's hand one time back about 1974, and wound up putting 3 slugs, from that same gun, into the guys head, in self defense. So don't tell me that he or the other guy would have been just as safe had there not been a weapon available.

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ORIGINAL: TXCOMMISH

S&W 642-2 Airweight. Safariland pocket holster inside right front pocket. Very light and have never been "made."

In answer to AK47, I carry a gun because a cop is too heavy. 

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ORIGINAL: Geoff

I stopped carrying when I left the Marines. I hope I'll never have to use a gun again in my life. I don't even want to see the damn things.