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Old 04-15-2008, 08:22 PM
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I for one will no longer be going to Pizza Hut, anywhere any place.
Outrage Of The Week: "Safest for everybody?" Pizza Hut punishes employee for defending himself



Friday, April 04, 2008




“The incident wasn’t something quick and simple. ... It was a long ordeal…my life was, without a doubt, in danger.”
On the night of March 27, 2008, Pizza Hut deliveryman James Spiers of Des Moines, Iowa was delivering pizzas--just as he had many times before over the past 10 years. He walked into an apartment complex thinking he was making another routine delivery, but found himself in a battle for his life: he had been set up by a “customer” who had lured him into the complex by pretending to order the pizza over the phone, but who had an armed accomplice waiting in ambush.
Spiers soon found himself trapped in a hallway with a gun to his head, his assailant demanding money. “Without a doubt,” he said, “my life was in extreme danger.”
The thug (who, not surprisingly, has a long list of prior arrests) thought he had the upper hand. Fortunately, Mr. Spiers has a valid concealed carry permit, and was carrying a pistol for personal protection at the time of the attack. He struggled with his attacker and managed to draw his own firearm. He shot the assailant, who fled the scene but was later arrested after he sought medical treatment.
Unfortunately, that’s not the end of the story. As a result of his actions, Mr. Spiers, a single father trying to make an honest living, was suspended from his job by his employer, Pizza Hut. That’s right. A man who, as a result of doing his job, was forced into a life-threatening situation, defended himself, and whose actions helped take a career criminal off the street, was deprived of his livelihood. Pizza Hut suspended James Spiers for defending his life.
Vonnie Walbert, vice president of human resources at Pizza Hut, said, “We have a policy against carrying weapons. We prohibit employees from carrying guns because we believe that that is the safest for everybody.”
“Safest for everybody?” This inane policy certainly makes things safer for criminals, like the one who attacked Spiers. But it does nothing to aid the safety of Pizza Hut’s employees. Every night, hardworking deliverymen and women must do their job in potentially dangerous areas. In fact, their jobs are statistically among the most dangerous in the nation. Yet Pizza Hut would deprive them of self-protection.
Thankfully, people are taking notice. Spiers has said that he has been “overwhelmed by support from people who cheered what happened,” including Iowa state senator Brad Zaun (R-32), who noted, “If I was in a situation to protect my family, protect myself, to continue being a father, I would’ve done the same thing. What I want everybody to know…is that there [are] people out there supporting this man and his right to defend himself. I’m going to be watching Pizza Hut.”
To voice your outrage over Pizza Hut’s disciplinary decision, please contact the Corporate Offices by phone at (800) 948-8488, or by e-mail at this webpage: http://www.pizzahut.com/contactus/ContactUsForm.aspx?l1=2024.This corporate policy is outrageous.
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Old 04-15-2008, 08:58 PM
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Thanks for the post!! I wrote them a nastygram and invited them to call me..and I WILL be telling my friends. Hopefully we can keep this dumbass policy in the news!!
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This is not the first time this has happened with Pizza Hut.
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Old 04-15-2008, 09:25 PM
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my email has been sent letting them know I am no longer a customer of theirs.

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Old 04-15-2008, 09:28 PM
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In ohio we cant carry if the establishment has a class D liquor license. Its a debate weather or not beer is considered liquor- but anywaythat makes me not want to eat there anyway.

This is sad that one cannot protect him self with out worrying about your job.- of course I cant carry at work, no gun signs all over the place.

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Old 04-15-2008, 09:30 PM
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I hate to say this, but if the guy went looking for a job, I suspect he was made aware of their stupid no-gun policy, so, why in the world did he choose to work for Pizza Hut.

I certainly understand the need to defend oneself and the rights afforded to a CCW, but he put himself in harm's way. He saved his life, but he lost his job, that's bad, but when he took the job, I'd think he knew of the policy, Pizza Hut surely can't hide the policy - they've had too much bad PR.

I, too, I am a CCW carrier, but I would have choosen not to work for a company that will not allow me to exercise my right to protect myself.

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Old 04-15-2008, 10:59 PM
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Without knowing all the guys personal details, working for Pizza Hut might have been the best job he could get. It may have been a second job. Should he be deprived his 2nd amendment rights because of his income. Walk a mile in his shoes before leaping to conclusions. How many people with CCWs leave their gun in their car while at work? I'll bet most know what their company policy is for having a gun on company property. How can you say he put himself in harms way- He was just delivering a pizza!
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Old 04-16-2008, 08:37 AM
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Thanks for the Post. I contacted them, and let them know what I thought of their policy and invited any response. Can't wait to hear something, if anything.
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Old 04-16-2008, 12:35 PM
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Without knowing all the guys personal details, working for Pizza Hut might have been the best job he could get. It may have been a second job. Should he be deprived his 2nd amendment rights because of his income. Walk a mile in his shoes before leaping to conclusions. How many people with CCWs leave their gun in their car while at work? I'll bet most know what their company policy is for having a gun on company property. How can you say he put himself in harms way- He was just delivering a pizza!
The very nature of the job, toting pizza and MONEY around, makes you an easy mark for a low-life criminal. By doing that he did put himself in harm's way. I can certainly see why he wants to carry - it's the nature to the job, where he has to go. But if he applied, discovered the Pizza hut had a no-gun policy and was not going to abide by it, then he should not have accepted the job.

I'm glad he shot the criminal SOB, probably saved his life, but Pizza Hut has the right to lay the ground rules for its delivery people. If you don't like the ground rules - don't take the job. You do not have the right to accept the job and then force Pizza Hut to conform to your ground rules.

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Old 04-16-2008, 12:51 PM
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I see your point and agree that it is certainly valid. I just think that Pizza Huts' policy may be a little unrealistic depending on the neighborhood. I would hate to see them change that policy after some employee loses his life over a $10 crappy pizza.
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