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RE: CCW and Harleys - 4/28/2008 6:32:17 PM
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btefft
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I guess I'd break the Ohio law. My CCW goes with me - everywhere. If I don't need it, no one will know I have it. and if I need it to save my life - so be it.
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RE: CCW and Harleys - 4/28/2008 7:31:06 PM
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Night Crawler
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Well...I would say that I lock it up in my saddlebag...but I don't frequent places that deny my constitutional rights.
I say when the restaurants finally figure out how much money they're missing out on, maybe they'll get out and lobby against the leftists's agenda that impedes Americans of their right to keep and bear arms, as the Founding Fathers and the Framers of the U.S. Constitution invisioned.
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RE: CCW and Harleys - 4/28/2008 11:25:59 PM
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I too avoid places that tell me I am not welcome, either with signs or because they don't want to fight against laws that bar me from entering.
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RE: CCW and Harleys - 4/29/2008 5:01:13 AM
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billnourse
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I have a glued in holster in the high side saddle bag that holds my gun in place and readily available when it is not on my person. The gun is always there, as I never take it out except to pratice or carry on my person.
I have gun in each of my vehicles on a permenant basis so I don't have to worry about forgetting to move one from one car to the other and I don't have to have it on my person at all times.
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RE: CCW and Harleys - 4/29/2008 7:59:44 AM
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Tin Gizel
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I'm not familiar with Ohio law, but in Virginia we have something similar about no CCW in places that serve alcohol. Exception is that we can 'uncover' and go 'open' carry and be legal there.
I will admit that I have 'forgotten' to uncover from time to time....as the saying goes 'concealed means concealed' what is your life worth to you?
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RE: CCW and Harleys - 4/29/2008 4:28:38 PM
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themensh
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Florida allows carry in a place that serves food, but if it is a beer/booze
only place, no can carry.
I also.....though.......sometimes carry where it may be illegal.
If no one knows I have it......no harm done. I once picked up my GF at
the airport and forgot I had my derringer in my coat pocket.....(she nearly sh&t a brick).
If I have to carry on my bike and can't conceal.......It is locked in the tour pack.
(not very locked when you think of it.....)
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RE: CCW and Harleys - 4/30/2008 9:16:55 PM
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ScottyPotty
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I know its not right but its the law........I dont go to places that voluntary puts up a sign and deny my right to carry. But sometimes when your with a group or meeting a group you really dont have much choice.
I have the leather wrapped bags on my RK and wanted to know if anyone has a good way to lock up my gun............
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RE: CCW and Harleys - 5/2/2008 1:43:38 AM
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a911scanner
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I think the laws that say you can't carry into an establishment that serves is idiotic at best.
For someone like myself that hasn't had anything in over 22 1/2 years, I wouldn't consider myself a risk for clouded judgement from too many Cokes.
Hard for me to say this, being as I live in the Land of 10,000 liberal lakes, which is 3rd on the list for the most anti-gun sheeple per capita, our law is much better. Can't be over .04 & be carrying at the same time. Kinda makes more sense...don'tcha think?
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RE: CCW and Harleys - 5/3/2008 4:14:55 PM
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themensh
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sure hate to be .04 and robbed and knifed. Oh well......
the law IS the law. And the law works in most cases...
mostly 'law-abiders' are the reason.
If you have leather bags..it is kind of hard to secure a weapon....
especially if someone knows or thonks you may have some goodies in there.
If you you are unsure about carrying a weapon because some manager at some
resterant decided they didn't want you to carry.....then leave your defensive
weapon at home.
You really have no choice.
(when seconds count, a cop is only minutes away)
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RE: CCW and Harleys - 5/3/2008 8:26:23 PM
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HSMaxim
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The best thing I could come up with is to use a cable lock.
You will probably have to drill a couple of holes in the bag so that you can run the cable around something solid.
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RE: CCW and Harleys - 5/4/2008 9:14:19 PM
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ScottyPotty
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quote:
ORIGINAL: wiseguyups
http://www.aeromach.net/cat_pg1.html I have these locks on my RKC. They work ok. But if some one wants in they will get in.
That was what Ive been looking  ......thanks wiseguy
< Message edited by ScottyPotty -- 5/4/2008 9:33:40 PM >
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RE: CCW and Harleys - 5/7/2008 8:18:13 PM
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Here is the answer to all your problems. http://www.sandssalesco.com/
This is the coolest holster system I've seen. Only wish I could find a way to place it on my Street Bob.
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RE: CCW and Harleys - 5/7/2008 10:26:39 PM
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jnslim007
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all I have to say is the law is FULL OF GREY AREA!!!! You do what you want but pay the consequences if you get caught. I just hope not to get caught.....
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RE: CCW and Harleys - 5/9/2008 9:09:09 AM
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ktm_scott
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I generally carry everywhere. Had to hand my piece off to another rider when I was taken to an emergency room after an accident. Otherwise, I figure it's going to stay concealed unless a dire situation presents itself whereupon I'll go by the old saying that it's better to be judged by 12 than carried by 6.
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RE: CCW and Harleys - 5/9/2008 8:44:33 PM
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gregp
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I carry most days off thje bike and evry time I ride. When I ride I am out of my comfort zone anf feel I should carry.
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RE: CCW and Harleys - 5/16/2008 8:20:15 PM
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airmecher1
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I'll go with your answer KTM Scott! As a CCW in Texas we can go most places you visit everyday, except for bars, schools and such and still be legal. Besides, if they don't know, then it is no big deal. If something happens, in Texas, there is a defense to prosecution clause if you have to use it where you shouldn't be carrying.
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RE: CCW and Harleys - 5/17/2008 11:01:52 AM
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SOCALHD
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I will be blunt.
Leaving your gun in your saddlebags or in your car while you areaway from it. Is just plain DUMB.
The potential for theft is too high, and what have you done? Put your gun in the hands of a crook.
If you are going some place you are nit supposed to carry then leave it locked up at home.
Your better off taking it in with you and the risk is less if you keep it concealed.
Sorry, but as a LEO I will tell you. It is better off with you than in the ride. I would rather scold you for having it with you. Than have you file a report because some crook stole it.
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RE: CCW and Harleys - 5/17/2008 3:26:27 PM
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ktm_scott
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+1 SOCALHD! The right to carry comes with responsibilities.
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RE: CCW and Harleys - 5/19/2008 4:06:16 AM
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ScottyPotty
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quote:
ORIGINAL: ktm_scott
The right to carry comes with responsibilities.
Like becoming a criminal for carrying where your not allowed?
I know what you guys are saying (break the law - become a criminal) and as long as you dont get caught its OK. I agree its better to be judged by 12 than to be carried by 6 - But I will obey the law until I feel the circumstances warrant my illegal actions.
The right to carry certainly does come with responsibilities - like obeying the law. If your not worried about the laws why did you get a CCW in the first place? Why not just carry concealed - if its hidden correctly no one would know, right?
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RE: CCW and Harleys - 5/21/2008 10:23:08 PM
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There is only 4 places that I will not CCW,other then that its with me at all times...I utilize 3 differant holsters,IWB,OWB and Shoulder to how I dress for the day...
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RE: CCW and Harleys - 5/22/2008 4:36:04 AM
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sprayandpray
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quote:
ORIGINAL: SOCALHD
I will be blunt.
Leaving your gun in your saddlebags or in your car while you areaway from it. Is just plain DUMB.
The potential for theft is too high, and what have you done? Put your gun in the hands of a crook.
If you are going some place you are nit supposed to carry then leave it locked up at home.
Your better off taking it in with you and the risk is less if you keep it concealed.
Sorry, but as a LEO I will tell you. It is better off with you than in the ride. I would rather scold you for having it with you. Than have you file a report because some crook stole it.
Unfortunatly not all LEO's are like you. When dumb laws happen, people are sometimes forced to do dumb things. Sorry you Can't arrest me for having a gun stolen, you sure as hell can for carrying where you are not supposed to . Don't like it ? Me neither. Change the system.
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RE: CCW and Harleys - 5/25/2008 2:43:40 PM
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skrewball
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SoCalHD put it best. Under your direct control means at all times. I'm almost sure that here in Mass it's not illegal to leave a firearm in an unattended vehicle(provided it is properly secured.) But, if your vehicle were to get stolen, it could be easily viewed as an irresponsible act and you would most likely kiss your LTC goodbye. My guns reside in two places. On my person or in my safe at home.
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RE: CCW and Harleys - 5/27/2008 11:23:29 AM
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Sublime1
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BTW,
CCW only prevents you from carrying concealed into an establishment that derives more than 49% of their business from alcohol sales. Thus, if it's like Chili's or TGI-Fridays, you're probably good.
However, most biker joints, and band-bars are NOT in compliance.
Also, most state laws require that when a CCW holder is transporting in a vehicle, that the ammunition and firearm must reside seperately, and one or both must be secured by lock and key.
Thus, technically if you have lockable hard bags, and the magazine is in one side, and the pistol in the other, you're okay.
Of course, LE always has the discretion in these matters, and at the very least, you're looking at probably having to get your property out of impound.
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RE: CCW and Harleys - 5/27/2008 12:19:52 PM
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sprayandpray
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quote:
ORIGINAL: Sublime1
BTW,
CCW only prevents you from carrying concealed into an establishment that derives more than 49% of their business from alcohol sales. Thus, if it's like Chili's or TGI-Fridays, you're probably good.
However, most biker joints, and band-bars are NOT in compliance.
BD
This varies by state, Some states you can carry in bars that don't serve food, Others have a 51% rule, I think there are even some that have an " Any establishment that servies alcohol" clause.
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