Well I decided to try a 50-50 mix of Redline MTL(70w80) and Redline MT90(75w90) which should be equal to a 35w motor oil with a GL4 gear oil rating. The clutch hooks up real nice. No drag like the formula +. I think I have found my primary juice for good. Neither one of these oils has any moly and they are GroupV basestocks. The MT90 is just enough to quiet the chain as well. ;)