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Primary Cover! - 5/4/2008 7:48:14 PM
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sutphen30
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Just picked up a 75 Ironhead! Never owned a Harley! Where the clutch cable screws into the case its just free floating and leaking oil around it! Is it supposed to be threaded into the case? If so it must be stripped? Any fix to this? Also the top plug leaks oil even after replacing the o-ring!! I'm sure these won't be the only questions I have with this classic?
Thanks Johnny
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RE: Primary Cover! - 5/4/2008 9:33:23 PM
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I've had that prob before.You will have to take it to a shop that is capable of filling the hole and re tapping it.5/16 I believe.Make sure that you clean it up real good before taking it."Top plug leaks oil"What top plug?
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RE: Primary Cover! - 5/5/2008 3:51:03 AM
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Common fail in IH, someone has changed clutchcable with wrong threat... so threat is busted...
I'm not sure about correct threat I THINK it MIGHT be 5/16 UNF or 3/8 UNF...
Check that you don't have too much oil in primary.
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RE: Primary Cover! - 5/5/2008 7:42:20 PM
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sutphen30
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The filler plug!! Once I drop the cover will I have to change all gaskets?
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RE: Primary Cover! - 5/5/2008 8:02:46 PM
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sutphen30
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That sucks !! So I will have to take the primary cover off and have someone fill that hole in and retap?? As far as too much oil in the case?? Bike has not been used for a while according to the guy I bought it from! Should I drain all oil? Drop the Primary case cover have it fixed add oil & see what happens or may I have an issue with oil circulating??
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RE: Primary Cover! - 5/5/2008 8:28:39 PM
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Removing the primary cover is no big deal.Takes 15 minutes.Do you have a manuel.Get one.It will be a blessing.jpcycles has them.The filler plug should have a round neoprene gasket around it that creates the seal.Yours is probably missing.Yes,you will probably have to change the primary gasket.Just refill with 24 oz I think or until it runs out of the level check hole once you put it back together.I use Castrol 20w50 in my primary year round.The same in my engine until it gets above 80 deg. then I run Valvoline VR1 SAE 60 racing oil which is rare as hens teeth.I get it at napa.http://www.jpcycles.com/index.aspx
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RE: Primary Cover! - 5/5/2008 10:09:30 PM
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No, you just think that sucks! You will find out what really sucks later. Heh-Heh, welcome to the ironhead owners group.
As the others say, remove the primary cover.
Get the hole fixed. I recommend a Heli-coil fix or another type of insert be installed.
Put a brand new gasket on the primary cover.
There is a procedure that you must do to adjust the clutch release cam. Follow it before you try to adjust the cable slack. If you do not know how, get a manual. If that is not possible now, then ask us and we can fill you in on what you need to do.
Add 26 ozs of oil and you should be good for a week before you have to fix another problem (Smile, I'm just kidding)
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RE: Primary Cover! - 5/6/2008 10:26:29 AM
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Add 26 ozs of oil and you should be good for a week before you have to fix another problem (Smile, I'm just kidding)
pg
Actually your not far off! Maybe not a week it could be 3 days or 3 weeks but another problem will creep up. A bolt will come free or this or that. Nothing bad and I'm not complaining because I like to get in there and try to improve what I can. But these bikes need extra TLC.
Congrats on your purchase sutphen30
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RE: Primary Cover! - 5/6/2008 3:06:24 PM
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piniongear
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Like the head of Men's Warehouse likes to say........I Guarantee you!
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RE: Primary Cover! - 5/6/2008 8:02:09 PM
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sutphen30
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When I remove the cover is it easy to disconnect the clutch cable?? I just ordered a manual from J&P along with the gasket set!! Gonna go the heli-coil route!! So now what is great about these bikes?? Please do tell! Am i gonna enjoy riding it?? Will I have to worry about breaking down all the time?? LOL....
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RE: Primary Cover! - 5/6/2008 8:55:54 PM
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piniongear
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Pretty easy to do. The clutch cable will sit in a clip on the end of the ramp lever. The instruction manual will tell you what you need to do, and any questions you have can be answered by someone here on the forum.
An ironhead is a machine that you will find yourself working on more than you might find yourself working on a modern Sportster. Anybody with the money can buy a modern Sporty though. There are many thousands out there at this minute.
There are many fewer Ironheags out there, and the riders are their own wrenches, because the dealers will not touch them with a 10 ft pole.
Most 'shop mechanics' don't know a thing about an ironhead either, so that's a good thing all the way around.........pg
Relating to the pic:
Items 1 through 10 will come off attached to the primary cover. Item 11 is the end of your clutch cable and it fits into item 10 (the clip)
The adjustment I speak of is done for the items 1 through 10 and is directed to the proper seating of those 3 ball bearings. Do this adjustment before you try to set the proper slack in the clutch cable.
Do not take any of the 1 through 10 items apart until you have the manual in hand and have read and understand the exercise described.
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RE: Primary Cover! - 5/7/2008 10:20:49 AM
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So now what is great about these bikes?? Please do tell! Am i gonna enjoy riding it?? Will I have to worry about breaking down all the time?? LOL....
You won't have to worry about it breaking down all the time. PG and I were just joking around. I would suggest that you take the time before a ride and check the oil, chain lube, and any major bolts to make sure they don't need tightening. 5 minutes before you go on a ride checking this stuff will save you a lot of headaches when your out on the road.
Especially pay close attention to the pushrods and rear chain to make sure they are adjusted correctly about every month. Your shop manual you ordered will give you instructions on that and its really quite simple. The other thing to check out is primary chain when you take the cover off. That will probably need to be adjusted as well. Again not that hard to do. But good thing to keep an eye on.
The good things about these bikes is that there are so many after market parts that you can buy, if you have the money, to make your machine look unique. It might require more keep up than newer bikes, but the ironhead is a great bike. You will end up really loving it and really like getting in there working on it.
Keep us posted on how things go and upload some pictures of it, we would love to see it
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RE: Primary Cover! - 5/7/2008 10:42:02 AM
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If you go the heli coil route instead of filling the hole and retapping make sure that you lock the insert in place with something.Don't know what to suggest you lock it with because I tried everything available to lock one in place when I went that route and it failed.If it wasn't moving into the primary when I screwed the cable in it was backing up as I went to make the free play adjustment.The insert always moved when I went to install and adjust the cable.I tried everything from thread locks to spikeing it in place.Matter of fact it was actually much cheaper to have the hole filled and re tap in the end than the other way and I never had any more probs with it.I had them make the fill about a half inch thicker on the inside of the cover so it has about 3/4 in. threads.The only difficulty was finding someone capable of doing the aluminum filling work in an appealing way which I made short work of with the yellow pages.Good luck whichever way you go..If all else fails I have the 75 primary cover that I had fixed that I will let you get.
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