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RE: Cracked Case - 5/7/2008 7:21:19 PM
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megawatt
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Bummer. I would not feel comfortable reassembling my bike with that. Hope ya got enough dough to put it back together because in my opinion, it needs to come apart and be repaired.
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RE: Cracked Case - 5/8/2008 6:18:37 AM
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miacycles
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By the time you get the case welded and remachined by a competent shop that has experience doing that type of work, you end up with a patched case that costs you almost as much as a new after market stock bore case. You make the decision, I know what way we go!!
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RE: Cracked Case - 5/8/2008 6:51:39 AM
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Dr.Hess
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If it was me, I'd just get it welded up by someone good. Where's the crack? I've seen many things like this welded to good-as-new and you'd never be able to tell.
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RE: Cracked Case - 5/8/2008 11:48:28 AM
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hotrod351
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if money was no problem then ofcourse get new cases. but i wouldn't be afraid of having a good welding shop weld it up.
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RE: Cracked Case - 5/9/2008 7:23:26 AM
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Dr.Hess
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I didn't see your attachment before. I would not put that motor back together like that. I don't think you'll need much machining, though. The inside just needs to be sort-of round and not interfere with the jug. The gasket surface needs to be "mostly flat" but if it is not perfect at that weld, that isn't the end of the world. That's why we use a gasket there. A steady hand and a file will be close enough. The trickiest thing would be in locating the hole, but even that isn't too bad: After everything is welded up and filed flat again, mount the jug and head with the 3 good bolts snugged down. Make a giant pointy punch from a piece of allthread or drillstem or whatever, drop it down the last hole, whack with a hammer. Disassemble, drill out, tap. Done. That case is salvageable. It's gonna be a bunch of work, and too bad the PO failed to mention that little JB weld "fix". Or put a new case on it. Not sure on the costs there, and if it is the case with the VIN on it, you'll have more issues to deal with.
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RE: Cracked Case - 5/9/2008 7:40:38 AM
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dougbk
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The cases on my 89 EG cracked behind the lifter blocks, so I replaced them with a set of S&S, no more concerns.
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RE: Cracked Case - 5/9/2008 6:32:16 PM
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miacycles
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Let me reiterate, we've seen a few cases like yours. First the crack runs down the threaded hole that the cylinder stud threads into, secondly if you look close enough you will also see there is a crack following the oil hole, third it extends through the bore for the spigot. Any one of these done properly is a good deal of work. Repairing all of these properly by an experienced, competent machinist will not be cheap. Now if you believe that the spigot bore just needs to be close to round and the deck just needs to be nearly flat, then I guess the oil hole just needs to be sorta open. Remember good undamaged/unrepaired cases leak all the time. Do your self a favor and get a new after market block for around $600.00 you wont regret it.
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RE: Cracked Case - 5/9/2008 11:26:46 PM
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megawatt
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timsflhtc,
What year is your engine?
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RE: Cracked Case - 5/15/2008 12:21:48 PM
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fxdwg_rugby
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Can you order new cases from HD? Get new cases not a remanufactored motor. Cast fly wheel and no timpken bearings...
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RE: Cracked Case - 5/17/2008 8:20:32 PM
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I looked at your pic. With new cases you will have a new motor with all of the other work that you have done....
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RE: Cracked Case - 5/18/2008 10:46:21 AM
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mp
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Delkron, S&S, STD all make much better quality cases than Harley.
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RE: Cracked Case - 5/18/2008 2:45:05 PM
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fxdwg_rugby
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quote:
ORIGINAL: mp
Delkron, S&S, STD all make much better quality cases than Harley.
MP,
Great idea but you cant title it as an HD any more... Special construction. New HD cases that match...Less hassle from tha men in blue. My $.02
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1999 Ultra FI 95" with 6-speed
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RE: Cracked Case - 5/18/2008 6:43:19 PM
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89 FXRS
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quote:
ORIGINAL: fxdwg_rugby
quote:
ORIGINAL: mp
Delkron, S&S, STD all make much better quality cases than Harley.
MP,
Great idea but you cant title it as an HD any more... Special construction. New HD cases that match...Less hassle from tha men in blue. My $.02
MP, are you sure of that? My numbers are on the frame.. My previous Shovel and Pan both had numbers on the cases. But my Evo doesn't that I have seen.
Just curious, I do not know?
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