RE: History of the biker,PTSD and Today!
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RE: History of the biker,PTSD and Today! - 5/9/2008 12:30:52 PM
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BadBoyFLSTC
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ORIGINAL: Alias I just wrote a twenty five page response to that piece of SH!T JC Rider. But it went to "Lost my connection" heaven. I'll try to start over and shorten it a little. As a totally disabled US Marine Corps Vietnam Combat Vet, with three purple hearts, (I didn't win any of 'em, I didn't even know I was in a game,) who was diagnosed with "War Neurosis" later changed to PTSD, I would be willing to bet JC never served a day in combat and most likely was never in the service. As far as other branches of the military goes: I would not be a Totally Disabled Service Connected Marine Corps Vietnam Combat Vet if it wasn't for the Navy Sea Bee's (CB's) that used their bulldozers to push out a LZ for the Army, 101st Airborne helicopter to land and take me to the 3rd medical Battalion in Quang Tri. Or the Marine Corps Helicopter that took me to the Navy Hospital ship the USS Repose for an emergency operation on my head wound. Nor if it wasn't for the biggest airplane I have ever seen, an Air Force Galaxy Strato... something or the other that took me to Japan for 8 more operations on my head and legs. Yes, I will rag on any and all the different branches of our military but, I will always remember that if it were not for them, all of them I would a dead Marine Corps Vietnam Combat Vet and another name on the Wall. So screw that piece of crap JC Rider and I thank each and every one of you that served and all of you that supported us, whether or not you served.. Most of the regulars here know I fly a full patch with the Vietnam Vets M/C, most of my brothers are combat Vets. I have never heard even one of them talk the way JC Rider did about another Veteran. Regardless of what branch of service he was in. As Gunny Hightower would say, "I was kickin' ass an taken names when his, JC Rider's mom was deciding whether to spit or swallow!" It's clear she made the wrong decision, she should have spit. It's people like him that give Vets a bad name and make it harder for real Vets to get adequate medical care and compensation. Yes, medical care is vastly improved in the 40 years I have been using the VA system for medical care, but it still inadequate. Disabled Veterans have not received a raise in compensation sense WW2. Yes, every now and then they give a COLA increase but that's not more than 3% at most. It's a sad fact that the very same kids that we send into harms way to protect our way of life, justly or not, are forced to live in squaller after they become to disabled to serve anymore. Paying a service connected totally disabled combat veteran under the poverty level is a shame and should be a crime! I know I got off on a tangent, but people like this piece of SH!T piss me off. It's their fault Veterans are treated like they are. These pieces of crap run their mouths and make people look at real vets with destine. My club is having a party in Sebring, Fl on the 4th of July, I sure hope JC Rider shows up so he can tell my brother Air Force Veterans they suck! I would like to watch that. So JC Rider bring your PTSD ravaged butt on down here and run your mouth. Please! I'm not threating anyone at all, really I'm just inviting a fellow veteran to come on down and get some well needed therapy. Couldn't have said it better myself. I will bust on other branches, especially Marines , but it's between us and all in fun. I will never disrespect another branch in all seriousness because we all depend on each other when it hits the fan. Thanks for your service Alias, and welcome home. That was a great and moving story, thank you.
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RE: History of the biker,PTSD and Today! - 5/9/2008 1:18:23 PM
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CelticCB
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Well now that I got the facts here. Yep JC out of line but as well like I said and Alias put in to perspective. I respect all branches, all services and any one of you guys or gals can call on me if you need to talk AKA write I'm here! I just wanted people to know what PTSD really can do to you and yeah JC come on man...Talk it out do not let this be excuses...Now about me trolling for a thank you ...Badboy... You can hit me in the gut all you want man I will still help you out if you need it. I was just here checking out the place and man I just had to say my peace. There was a little gut shot there for JC to start his tantrum but like all of you said "way out of line." Well I hope that I did not make any enemies here I really like to B.S. with you and hell, maybe just get together and ride for a few days So if anyone is in the California area San Diego or Ventura Give me a Buzz and well hit the road for a spell. Again THANK YOU VETS combat or not..For paving the way!
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RE: History of the biker,PTSD and Today! - 5/9/2008 7:51:12 PM
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BadBoyFLSTC
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ORIGINAL: CelticCB Well now that I got the facts here. Yep JC out of line but as well like I said and Alias put in to perspective. I respect all branches, all services and any one of you guys or gals can call on me if you need to talk AKA write I'm here! I just wanted people to know what PTSD really can do to you and yeah JC come on man...Talk it out do not let this be excuses...Now about me trolling for a thank you ...Badboy... You can hit me in the gut all you want man I will still help you out if you need it. I was just here checking out the place and man I just had to say my peace. There was a little gut shot there for JC to start his tantrum but like all of you said "way out of line." Well I hope that I did not make any enemies here I really like to B.S. with you and hell, maybe just get together and ride for a few days So if anyone is in the California area San Diego or Ventura Give me a Buzz and well hit the road for a spell. Again THANK YOU VETS combat or not..For paving the way! Sorry for the gut shot brother. I'll ride with ya any time. In fact, I'm looking to hook up with KingK9 for a ride some time. Maybe you'd like to get some wind with us.
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RE: History of the biker,PTSD and Today! - 5/9/2008 10:59:58 PM
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lh4x4
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I had a bad dream the other night. I dreamed I was getting up in the morning and there were no black T-shirts in the dresser only white ones.
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RE: History of the biker,PTSD and Today! - 5/10/2008 6:01:59 AM
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DannyZ71
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ORIGINAL: lh4x4 I had a bad dream the other night. I dreamed I was getting up in the morning and there were no black T-shirts in the dresser only white ones. Man, you need help!!!
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RE: History of the biker,PTSD and Today! - 5/10/2008 6:04:59 AM
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Cognizant
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How times have changed!!! So many of today's vet's come home from the "zone", thumping their chest and seeking recognition, not showing one iota of humiliation for what they have seen and experianced. (Look at me, I have PTSD--you better show me some respect because I'm bringing the war back home with me and I'm gonna shove it in your face). It all bodes ill for the future of this Nation. As Alias could tell you, PTSD is a very, very personal problem, which effect's individuals differently, and is best delt with by professionals & peers. The REAL combat veteran hero's are men like Captain Kangaroo (WW11, Iwo Jima) and Mr. Rogers (Nam) who both saw and participated in severe combat experiance, then came home and humbled themselves by trying to teach the next generation how to be compassionate and civilized.
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RE: History of the biker,PTSD and Today! - 5/10/2008 7:03:22 AM
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PigInaBlanket
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Wow Mr .Rogers was in Vietnam? That's pretty cool but it makes me wonder if he sang to the enemy "F-R-I-E-N-D special! You are my friend, you are special to me." Oh God I can't believe I remembered that song. Help me...
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RE: History of the biker,PTSD and Today! - 5/10/2008 7:22:25 AM
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Cognizant
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ORIGINAL: PigInaBlanket Wow Mr .Rogers was in Vietnam? That's pretty cool but it makes me wonder if he sang to the enemy "F-R-I-E-N-D special! You are my friend, you are special to me." Oh God I can't believe I remembered that song. Help me... ("Won't you please, please won't you be, my neighbor") Fred Rogers was Special Forces, specializing in hand to hand combat. He had at least 25 confirmed kills to his credit when he came home. That sweater he wore everyday on his TV show, was specifically to cover his tattoos. Fred Rogers was the epitomy of an American hero!
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RE: History of the biker,PTSD and Today! - 5/10/2008 8:28:42 AM
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OldFenderGuy
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ORIGINAL: Alias I really hate to be the one to bust bubbles here but nether Captain Kangaroo or Mr. Rogers were in any type of action. Mr. Rogers was not in the military at all and The Capt. was never in combat. Here's the link to Snoops. http://www.snopes.com/military/marvin.asp Here is some additional information that deals more specificially with 'Mr. Rogers' and some of the 'unfounded claims' dealing with his military record (or lack of); http://www.snopes.com/radiotv/tv/mrrogers.asp
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RE: History of the biker,PTSD and Today! - 5/10/2008 8:40:12 AM
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faber
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There are tens of thousands of heroes who remain nameless in popular culture but provide the gift of leadership and the benefit of their experience to young people through continued public service. No rumors, no urban myths. http://www.proudtoserveagain.com/ I consider myself fortunate to work with many vets coming through this program.
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RE: History of the biker,PTSD and Today! - 5/10/2008 9:25:36 AM
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SportsterBob
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Celtic, You got my respect hands down. Not anyone can complete the training you did and endure the stress that you have gone through. Don't let ANYONE piss you off who doesn't get it ....They are too selfish and clueless to understand. Thanks again for doing a job that many don't have the guts to carry out!
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RE: History of the biker,PTSD and Today! - 5/10/2008 9:31:22 AM
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PigInaBlanket
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Great, I just admitted Mr Rogers was cool after hearing that story and you even made me sing his song then it is revelaed he wasn't a combat vet after all. I feel like slipping into the land of make believe now... Trolley take me away...
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RE: History of the biker,PTSD and Today! - 5/10/2008 9:42:49 AM
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SportsterBob
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All in a day's post......and free too!
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RE: History of the biker,PTSD and Today! - 5/10/2008 9:56:44 AM
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DannyZ71
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ORIGINAL: PigInaBlanket Great, I just admitted Mr Rogers was cool after hearing that story and you even made me sing his song then it is revelaed he wasn't a combat vet after all. I feel like slipping into the land of make believe now... Trolley take me away... Yeah, it may be awhile before you get your man card back after that one.
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RE: History of the biker,PTSD and Today! - 5/10/2008 10:09:30 AM
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OldFenderGuy
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ORIGINAL: PigInaBlanket Great, I just admitted Mr Rogers was cool after hearing that story and you even made me sing his song then it is revelaed he wasn't a combat vet after all. I feel like slipping into the land of make believe now... Trolley take me away... Don't feel too bad, as it's the kind of song that sticks in your head (for better or worse).... Here ya' go, just in case you need 'fresh fix' of his Theme Song. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qmNQ5VgFAfc&feature=related
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RE: History of the biker,PTSD and Today! - 5/10/2008 10:19:29 AM
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PigInaBlanket
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ORIGINAL: PigInaBlanket Great, I just admitted Mr Rogers was cool after hearing that story and you even made me sing his song then it is revelaed he wasn't a combat vet after all. I feel like slipping into the land of make believe now... Trolley take me away... Yeah, it may be awhile before you get your man card back after that one. Maybe I can get back my man card with this video I found of a banned episode that was only aired once... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iRCcrn9m_wg&NR=1
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RE: History of the biker,PTSD and Today! - 5/10/2008 12:43:56 PM
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check out jc's profile-threads he's written!! FAUX PASFAUX                 
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RE: History of the biker,PTSD and Today! - 5/10/2008 2:03:09 PM
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ORIGINAL: Alias I really hate to be the one to bust bubbles here but nether Captain Kangaroo or Mr. Rogers were in any type of action. Mr. Rogers was not in the military at all and The Capt. was never in combat. Here's the link to Snoops. http://www.snopes.com/military/marvin.asp I stand corrected. It sucks being a sucker. Not the first time and likely not the last.
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RE: History of the biker,PTSD and Today! - 5/10/2008 4:21:44 PM
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CelticCB
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Thats ok Cogman owning up to it is being a man and got my respect!
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RE: History of the biker,PTSD and Today! - 5/10/2008 4:32:12 PM
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CelticCB
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ORIGINAL: BadBoyFLSTC Sorry for the gut shot brother. I'll ride with ya any time. In fact, I'm looking to hook up with KingK9 for a ride some time. Maybe you'd like to get some wind with us. Hey bro no probs had much more than that hit me...just found out my 15 yr old is prego another punch but hey she is dealing with it and I visit the house for the weekends. So I guess I got things under control. My wife will need a medal after this tour though. You guys just let me know where and when if I can do it I will be there! I also have a Kawi Seabee bobber that I made check it out here. Thumbnail Image
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RE: History of the biker,PTSD and Today! - 5/10/2008 7:18:20 PM
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jeffbcn
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Thank you.
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RE: History of the biker,PTSD and Today! - 5/10/2008 9:22:20 PM
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BadBoyFLSTC
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ORIGINAL: BadBoyFLSTC Sorry for the gut shot brother. I'll ride with ya any time. In fact, I'm looking to hook up with KingK9 for a ride some time. Maybe you'd like to get some wind with us. Hey bro no probs had much more than that hit me...just found out my 15 yr old is prego another punch but hey she is dealing with it and I visit the house for the weekends. So I guess I got things under control. My wife will need a medal after this tour though. You guys just let me know where and when if I can do it I will be there! I also have a Kawi Seabee bobber that I made check it out here. Thumbnail Image
Nice bike shipmate. And your new avatar is off the hook, LOL. I love it.
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RE: History of the biker,PTSD and Today! - 5/11/2008 12:41:55 AM
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evilmonkey
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But...but...what about the PTSD?!? You mean that doesn't give you full reign to act like an ass? It does a little, but not anywhere like JC was posting. I call his bluff...I can't believe his is a Vet. Short of posting his DD214 (editted to remove personal info), I will have to call his posts BS. I don't know the person that is referenced in this thread, or his military record, so I don't know if bbbbbbbbbthe information in question is true or false, but your comment does bring up a good point. There are many that "claim" to have certain military experience and citations, but investigation has found their claims to be false. I'm also a member of a Veterans Association (Combat Vet Motorcycle Association), in which 'full members' are required to have been involved in actual combat operations. And to even be considered for full membership the interested veteran is REQUIRED to submit a copy of their DD214 so their claimed combat experience can be verified, and these military record are checked and verified beforehand. +1 Like us in the Warrior Brotherhood have to send your DD214 in and have it verified although we allow all military personnel to Join. 3 Vacations to Southeast Asia, all in the bush. PTSD is what they call in now, Huh. We VN Vets got the term going postal, Jeeze must be getting old. If'n he's talking that way he wasn't there, its 40 years since I was in country and I still won't talk about it unless I am seriously lit and with others who have walked down that path. But seriously, let him rant, no sweat off my back ifn he's dinky dow! For the vets here, Thanks. For those who back the Vets Thanks, I am proud also to be a member of the PGR. My father served in WW2, Korea and VN and has all the been there medals and I never heard him tell one story about it! Peace be to the Warrior Home!
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RE: History of the biker,PTSD and Today! - 5/11/2008 12:53:37 AM
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BadBoyFLSTC
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40 years! Yep, you're old. I'll be there to hold you up though brother .
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RE: History of the biker,PTSD and Today! - 5/11/2008 1:32:37 AM
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evilmonkey
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ORIGINAL: BadBoyFLSTC 40 years! Yep, you're old. I'll be there to hold you up though brother . Thanks Bro, fetch my walker will ya, Heh Heh guess I gotta start thinkin of a trike! Guess I asked for that, Duh
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RE: History of the biker,PTSD and Today! - 5/11/2008 5:26:47 AM
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