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new Super Tuner- no CD?   Printable Version Harley Davidson >> General Harley Davidson Tech Forums >> Electrical/Ignition/Tuner/ECM/Fuel Injection >> new Super Tuner- no CD? Page: [1] Login Message << Older Topic   Newer Topic >> new Super Tuner- no CD? - 5/9/2008 6:26:34 PM    dleeds Posts: 195 Joined: 4/14/2008 Status: offline Just a quick question for those of you that purchased the new Super Tuner. Does it come with the software cd, or do you have to buy it seperately? I ask because I just had the dealer install a set of BR 2 into 1 pipes and the Super Tuner on my Fat Bob. Picked up the bike today and he hands me a small box with the cable in it but no CD with software. I asked him where the disk was and he told me the new tuners don't come with a cd, you have to bring it back to the dealer to interface and change the map. I wasn't sure so I came home and started reading some of these threads and it seems like it comes with the disk, and also states that in the product description online. I wanted to double check with some of you before I called the dealer back to say WTF! _____________________________ Dan... 2008 Fat Bob Vivid Black Big Radius 2 into 1 SERT Post #: 1 RE: new Super Tuner- no CD? - 5/9/2008 7:04:33 PM    RA51   Posts: 150 Joined: 7/29/2007 Status: offline Ordered one of the new super pro tuners from Chicago Harley an it came with cd. The cables were extra. (in reply to dleeds) Post #: 2 RE: new Super Tuner- no CD? - 5/9/2008 9:08:14 PM    dleeds Posts: 195 Joined: 4/14/2008 Status: offline Thanks, I thought that was how it was. Guess I owe the dealer a call now to try to get my disk. If it goes anything like it has just trying to get the thing installed at all I'll be up for a fight with them. Thanks again for the reply RA51... _____________________________ Dan... 2008 Fat Bob Vivid Black Big Radius 2 into 1 SERT (in reply to RA51) Post #: 3 RE: new Super Tuner- no CD? - 5/9/2008 9:39:44 PM    Doc 1 Posts: 1844 Joined: 5/9/2007 From: Florida Status: offline If your interface doesn't have a red button on it you didn't get the new tuner and the SERT doesn't have a disc _____________________________ HDMD Tuning Center EFI Training 352.242.9616 hdmd88@yahoo.com (in reply to dleeds) Post #: 4 RE: new Super Tuner- no CD? - 5/11/2008 12:38:28 PM    dleeds Posts: 195 Joined: 4/14/2008 Status: offline Crap, it doesn't have a red button on it. You mean the dongle, right? I guess that's really all there is besides the cables. I guess they got me. Should be interesting to see them explain that one to me. Thanks doc, I never would have known the difference- I guess they were counting on that. _____________________________ Dan... 2008 Fat Bob Vivid Black Big Radius 2 into 1 SERT (in reply to Doc 1) Post #: 5 RE: new Super Tuner- no CD? - 5/11/2008 1:27:44 PM    Bertk Posts: 526 Joined: 3/3/2008 From: SW Florida Status: offline As far as I know, it should look like the photo below. Thumbnail Image Attachment (1) _____________________________ Ride Safe, Bert 2008 FLHX SG - Black Pearl 96ci / V&H Ture Duals / V&H Oval Slip-on's SE A-C Kit / SERT / Latus HD Dyno Map Chrome ThunderStar Wheels (in reply to dleeds) Post #: 6 RE: new Super Tuner- no CD? - 5/11/2008 1:44:18 PM    dleeds Posts: 195 Joined: 4/14/2008 Status: offline This is what they gave me... Sorry for the blurry pic, I can't find my camera and used my phone instead. _____________________________ Dan... 2008 Fat Bob Vivid Black Big Radius 2 into 1 SERT (in reply to Bertk) Post #: 7 RE: new Super Tuner- no CD? - 5/11/2008 2:17:03 PM    Bertk Posts: 526 Joined: 3/3/2008 From: SW Florida Status: offline That look just like my EFI RACE TUNER KIT PN: 32107-01L. Not the PRO. Does the dongle and/or box it came in have a part number on it? _____________________________ Ride Safe, Bert 2008 FLHX SG - Black Pearl 96ci / V&H Ture Duals / V&H Oval Slip-on's SE A-C Kit / SERT / Latus HD Dyno Map Chrome ThunderStar Wheels (in reply to dleeds) Post #: 8 RE: new Super Tuner- no CD? - 5/11/2008 2:30:45 PM    Steve Cole   Posts: 110 Joined: 1/26/2008 Status: offline That is the SERT Interface, I know as we made them. It's not a new Super Pro Tuner. (in reply to Bertk) Post #: 9 RE: new Super Tuner- no CD? - 5/11/2008 2:39:00 PM    dleeds Posts: 195 Joined: 4/14/2008 Status: offline Figures, that'll teach me to do more research upfront and get all the info. I was in such a hurry to pick up my bike I grabbed the box he had and took his word that the new tuners didn't come with software. He started it up with those Big Radius 2 into 1's on it and I just wanted to get it out on the road. Thanks for all the help, I'll see what the dealer has to say about this Monday... Does anyone know if there is a big difference between the 2 tuners? I was told the main difference is that the new is just for all models and the old SERT was model specific, if so should I just ask for a refund of the difference in price or should I go through the hassle with these guys to replace it with the right tuner? It took a month to get them to put this one in with the pipes. Thanks again... _____________________________ Dan... 2008 Fat Bob Vivid Black Big Radius 2 into 1 SERT (in reply to Steve Cole) Post #: 10 RE: new Super Tuner- no CD? - 5/11/2008 2:41:35 PM    Steve Cole   Posts: 110 Joined: 1/26/2008 Status: offline Both units do the same thing. The magic if you call it that is how well the tuner does his/her job when tuning the bike. (in reply to dleeds) Post #: 11 RE: new Super Tuner- no CD? - 5/11/2008 2:50:09 PM    dleeds Posts: 195 Joined: 4/14/2008 Status: offline If that's the case I'll just get a refund for the difference, I think they said it was like $100.00 difference between the 2. About the tune, I got the bike back and it's harder to start and I get alot of popping during decel, is that normal? _____________________________ Dan... 2008 Fat Bob Vivid Black Big Radius 2 into 1 SERT (in reply to Steve Cole) Post #: 12 RE: new Super Tuner- no CD? - 5/11/2008 3:16:06 PM    Bertk Posts: 526 Joined: 3/3/2008 From: SW Florida Status: offline There's a good chance the person that handed you the part didn't even know the difference between the two. Look at the invoice and see what you paid for. The Pro Tuner PN is 32109-08. _____________________________ Ride Safe, Bert 2008 FLHX SG - Black Pearl 96ci / V&H Ture Duals / V&H Oval Slip-on's SE A-C Kit / SERT / Latus HD Dyno Map Chrome ThunderStar Wheels (in reply to dleeds) Post #: 13 RE: new Super Tuner- no CD? - 5/11/2008 3:39:24 PM    Doc 1 Posts: 1844 Joined: 5/9/2007 From: Florida Status: offline No, decel popping is only normal with a dealer tune...lol, only kidding.  Here's the deal, this is a Delphi system, when tuned properly it should be as smooth as the cage you drive.....does your car have decel popping, does it ping.....I doubt if it does so why would it be normal for a Harley to do all those things UNLESS you have some ungodly 3'' exhaust system.  It grieves me to hear the excuses tuners make fore there incompetence. If you have the SERT keep it....I personally think it is a much better program than the Fisher Price version Harley came out with. < Message edited by Doc 1 -- 5/11/2008 5:11:21 PM > _____________________________ HDMD Tuning Center EFI Training 352.242.9616 hdmd88@yahoo.com (in reply to dleeds) Post #: 14 RE: new Super Tuner- no CD? - 5/11/2008 4:32:25 PM    Airborne350G Posts: 1229 Joined: 6/6/2007 Status: offline DOC 1 Right now I am using the SERT but since my old computer crashed I now have no way of using it. Is it worth it to upgrade to the new tuner since that one will work with VISTA (junk) and has the capability of recording? _____________________________ Greg My Toys 2007 Wideglide & 2000 Intruder (MIA) (in reply to Doc 1) Post #: 15 RE: new Super Tuner- no CD? - 5/11/2008 5:19:37 PM    Doc 1 Posts: 1844 Joined: 5/9/2007 From: Florida Status: offline If you can wait for a while the TTS's V-Tuner will be on the market and it is Vista compatible plus it can be ordered with a usb connection. Honestly the V-Tuner will be the better buy with more bang for the buck.  If you can't wait the Super Tuner will work but figure on paying $560.00 for it.  I'm NOT recommending this but some people have used Vista and a Bilikin USB adapter with the SERT and had success doing so......but again I don't recommend it. _____________________________ HDMD Tuning Center EFI Training 352.242.9616 hdmd88@yahoo.com (in reply to Airborne350G) Post #: 16 Login OR Register now to post a reply to this forum topic. 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