Unloaded locked pistol in a gun rug in a locked saddle bag, and the magazine, or cartridgesin a foam box in the other locked saddle bag. How's someone ever going to know what you have in the saddle bags if you don't tell. The reason of the precaution is in case you get in an accident.
I usually print a copy of the Firearms Owners Protection act of 1986 and Keep it with me also...... Just in case you run across some uneducated jack booted thug.
At the very least it would make for a hell of a lawsuit if you showthe copa printed copy of federal law that states what you are doing is legal and he arrested you anyway ( Like they do in New York City)
Unloaded , encased , inaccessable to the driver , no ammo attached to the firearm and you are covered as long as you have " No destination " in the state you are stopped in.
Personally I am not sure I would take a firearm to illannoy if I had a destienation there, Through absolutely , into not so much. They have some pretty screwy gun laws (and No NFA)
FOPA 1986 comes in especially handy with Machine Guns , Silencers and AOW's in non NFA states.
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Carryit legal, whatever you do.
Locked in a case and unloaded ammo seperate from the gun.
Because if the bike is registered to you and you get rolled(pulled over) they will know, most likely,you have a concealed carry permit from the vehicle registration.
Carryit legal, whatever you do.
Locked in a case and unloaded ammo seperate from the gun.
Because if the bike is registered to you and you get rolled(pulled over) they will know, most likely,you have a concealed carry permit from the vehicle registration.
Depends on the state your permit is issued in.... Some states are linked to DMV , others are not.
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Being active duty air force in Georgia, I don't need a permit to concealed carry. That poses a problem when traveling, because other states may not like an unlicensed man (military or not) packing a weapon through their state. If I have to travel with my wife, however, her safety trumps local law technicalities in my book. I will soon be getting a permit to remedy this problem, though I don't legally need one while within Georgia.
Being active duty air force in Georgia, I don't need a permit to concealed carry. That poses a problem when traveling, because other states may not like an unlicensed man (military or not) packing a weapon through their state. If I have to travel with my wife, however, her safety trumps local law technicalities in my book. I will soon be getting a permit to remedy this problem, though I don't legally need one while within Georgia.
No such thing as a permit to carry in every state, unless you are LEO ( all animals are equal , some animals are more equal then others) , be careful sounds like from your post you were under the impression a CCW permit would make you legal everywhere.
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Being active duty air force in Georgia, I don't need a permit to concealed carry. That poses a problem when traveling, because other states may not like an unlicensed man (military or not) packing a weapon through their state. If I have to travel with my wife, however, her safety trumps local law technicalities in my book. I will soon be getting a permit to remedy this problem, though I don't legally need one while within Georgia.
No such thing as a permit to carry in every state, unless you are LEO ( all animals are equal , some animals are more equal then others) , be careful sounds like from your post you were under the impression a CCW permit would make you legal everywhere.
Not "legal" everywhere so to speak... but I thought that every state on my route (Ga to Tx) offered reciprocity to Ga state permit holders while passing through..??..
Contrary to the thread title "Carrying thru non-carry states", when you secure the weapon in one compartment and the ammo in another, youare no longer "carrying", you are then transporting the weapon, and yes. you can have a destination or layover in states where you don't have a CCW. The weapon can be taken into hotels or residences justlike any other baggage.
You are only prohibited from stopping for prolonged periods of time in states that specificly have laws against the transportation of firearms and ammo in their state in interstate commerce..
2. Interstate Transportation of Firearms
In response to reports of hunters being arrested for firearms law violations while passing through a state with tight controls,[488] FOPA's drafters inserted provisions to offer protection for such travel. S. 49 as introduced provided that any provision of state or local law "which prohibits or has the effect of prohibiting the transportation of a firearm or ammunition in interstate commerce through such state, when such firearm is unloaded and not readily accessible, (p.677)shall be null and void."[489] On the Senate floor, an amendment was accepted which changed this in two respects: (1) the protection was extended only to persons not prohibited by the Gun Control Act from transporting, shipping or receiving a firearm; and (2) the provision that an infringing law was to be null and void was dropped in favor of a simpler declaration that the transportation was allowed notwithstanding any such law.[490] The rationale for the former change should be apparent. The rationale for the latter was a concern that, if the provisions that "have the effect" of inhibiting interstate transport were declared "null and void," entire sections of state law might be challenged and voided as to all purposes.[491] In this form the provisions passed the Senate,[492] and an identical provision was inserted in the bill that passed the House.[493]
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Contrary to the thread title "Carrying thru non-carry states", when you secure the weapon in one compartment and the ammo in another, youare no longer "carrying", you are then transporting the weapon, and yes. you can have a destination or layover in states where you don't have a CCW. The weapon can be taken into hotels or residences justlike any other baggage.
Bring a handgun into a residence in New York City or Morton Grove Illannoy , and you are NOT covered under FOPA. Even if you are just passing through , The language of FOPA is pretty clear you can have no destination in the state. A private residence is most definatly a destination, even if you only intend to stay the night. A hotel would certianly be more of a grey area, But I know of no case law on the subject, nor have been able to find any. If you know of some please point me in the right direction.
My rule is no staying non gun freindly states or locales, I dont have 20 grand lying around to give to some lawyer cause I decided to get a hotel in New York City , Only to have to be the preciedent setting case on a Sullivan violation vs FOPA and determining what a "destination" is. No thanks.
<edited as there seems to be some confusion here>
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Carrying thru non-carry states
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