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RE: IDS Bearing Failure - 5/14/2008 6:11:39 PM   
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this bearing does not replace any bearing but is an added  bearing in the isolated sprocket...

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RE: IDS Bearing Failure - 5/14/2008 6:15:00 PM   
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the sprocket is deflecting under torque causing a side load to the sprocket bearing and early failures

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RE: IDS Bearing Failure - 5/14/2008 7:03:43 PM   
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I purchased the IDS from my dealer and had him intall it 2500 miles ago.  $361 wasted as I can't tell any difference with it.  Now I'm worring all the time about bearing failure.  Also I didn't get my original sprocket back from the dealer.  Just never thought about it till later.  If I had got'en the old sprocket back I would put it back on and not worry about the IDS failing.

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RE: IDS Bearing Failure - 5/14/2008 7:26:29 PM   
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RE: IDS Bearing Failure - 5/14/2008 8:10:27 PM   
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I wonder how many posters on this thread have actually worked on one of these.  I have, IMHO, the torque update on the cone nut will correct the problem.

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RE: IDS Bearing Failure - 5/15/2008 2:17:23 AM   
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Hey sparky_mo,

Yeah, I know he was - I was just givin' him a little of it back!

Thanks and ride safe,

John

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RE: IDS Bearing Failure - 5/15/2008 2:21:55 AM   
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Hey crash1292,

That's what I was trying to say in my post too! 

You said it better.

Thanks,

John

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RE: IDS Bearing Failure - 5/15/2008 2:35:46 AM   
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quote:

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Lemme git this straight....

You brought yer own eggs to the restaurant an' had 'em cook 'em 'cuz it wuz cheaper....

Now, you want the cook to help you get a refund 'cuz the eggs were rotten......

You wanted cheaper, ya got cheaper.

If ya want someone willin' to go to bat fer ya, ya might try buyin' stuff from THEM instead of elsewhere.
i agree. been in automotive repair most my life and people STILL dont undersatnd why they cant supply thier own parts. amazing. that being said , im amazed at the bike shops that WILL install your parts. i certainly wouldnt expect them to warranty anything they didnt sell me regardless of the brand. BTW 20K miles on my IDS from Zanotti's (knock on wood) trouble free but i installed myself

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RE: IDS Bearing Failure - 5/15/2008 12:24:57 PM   
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After reading this thread last night I got to thinking about my IDS that the dealer installed about 5K ago.  Call it paranoia but I want them to check it out so I called the shop.  Service manager didn't know anything about it but he said he'd call around.  A couple of hours later he called me back and asked me to bring the bike in on Saturday so they can inspect the bearing, replace if needed and install new bolts torqued to the latest specs.

Great guys at my dealership!   

Thanks for posting this update.  I'll feel better Saturday.

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RE: IDS Bearing Failure - 5/15/2008 1:43:36 PM   
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I had the IDS installed back in aug of 07' I'm on my third back tire and have 18,000+ miles and just returned from a 2600 mile trip to the east coast no problems here. still beleive it was a good addition to the bike. jmo

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RE: IDS Bearing Failure - 5/15/2008 1:53:11 PM   
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Sounds like the IDS is a crap shoot!!!!  My feeling is if I wanted silky smooth I would have bought another 'wing'.  I'll take my Ultra the way she is.  Keep the rpm's up and all is well!!

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RE: IDS Bearing Failure - 5/15/2008 2:15:04 PM   
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IDS was a fix for the people who labor there motors in 6 gear.

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RE: IDS Bearing Failure - 5/15/2008 3:02:29 PM   
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I’m approaching 8,000 miles on my scoot and I once considered the IDS but since I didn’t have any problems or complaints and it was still in warranty, I decided against it and I’m glad I did.
 
For every 1,000 mile increments on the speedometer, 5th gear gets quieter (just gears meshing and wearing in I guess).
 
The whole IDS thing is a non-issue for me now.
 
But I do agree that if a dealer installs a genuine HD part that fails within the specified warranty period, then the dealer should repair the bike at HD's expense. It's like a trucker getting his rig repaired at a Cummins dealer in Tulsa with genuine Cummins parts and then having a failure in Seattle. The Seattle Cummins dealer should fix the truck at Cummin's expense - and they would.
 
Just the way I see it.
 


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RE: IDS Bearing Failure - 5/15/2008 3:09:39 PM   
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But I do agree that if a dealer installs a genuine HD part that fails within the specified warranty period, then the dealer should repair the bike at HD's expense. It's like a trucker getting his rig repaired at a Cummins dealer in Tulsa with genuine Cummins parts and then having a failure in Seattle. The Seattle Cummins dealer should fix the truck at Cummin's expense - and they would.
 
Just the way I see it.
 

yeah, BUT i dont think that would wash if u bought the parts at thru an on line Cummins dealer. dont think they would install em to begin with.

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RE: IDS Bearing Failure - 5/15/2008 3:19:40 PM   
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yeah, BUT i dont think that would wash if u bought the parts at thru an on line Cummins dealer. dont think they would install em to begin with.


I agree.
 
However, the OP’s dealer did install the genuine HD accessory so HD should repair it at no cost to the OP - assuming the bearing was installed properly by the dealer.

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RE: IDS Bearing Failure - 5/15/2008 3:25:31 PM   
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I recently had mine apart again,brg was fine,original tq specs still good.The failures some have reported may be due to whoever set the brg and/or if tq wrench was ever used for wheel install.Sounds like the factory got the 08s right using the IDS.So it appears to be the installer that may have caused the issue.

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RE: IDS Bearing Failure - 5/15/2008 5:30:24 PM   
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Since this is an "aftermarket" system, I wonder if the '08s with IDS as a factory set up are constructed the same way. The  only thing that really would concern me is the fact that you have a solid axle with three bearings(?) and you're bolting on this hub and dampener set. When all is fastened, the clearances from the bolts and bolt holes could never be perfectly aligned and the bearing would be going through stress reversals causing early fatigue...kinda like taking a paper clip and bending it back and forth until it breaks. My old Honda dirt bikes had rubber dampeners in the hubs for the same reason that this set is for but it was configured with two bearings. Two bearings can handle the load properly...three bearings on one shaft and there's potential for trouble!
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RE: IDS Bearing Failure - 5/15/2008 5:54:37 PM   
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Got a 08, Pulled the back wheel off and replaced it. I've drove a few thousand miles  and haven't had a problem. I only tightened it with a 3/4" ratchet. Didn't have a socket big enought for my 1/2 " torque wrench..

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RE: IDS Bearing Failure - 5/15/2008 6:17:17 PM   
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Do we know what the failure rate is?  Is it only a few out of thousands which would be normal?

I just saw the IDS Poll addressing this.  I'll check it out.  Sorry.

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