08 Throttle Response
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08 Throttle Response - 5/15/2008 8:55:45 AM
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Ninekiller
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I'm picking up my new Ultra in a few days and am curious as to whether or not anyone has experienced the rumoured slow throttle response. I figure a lot of you have had your new FBW equipped bikes for a while now so how about some feedback. The mechanic at my dealership says "it's definitely different". Exactly what he meant by that I'm not sure. I'm coming off an 07 SG and wonder how much of a difference there will be in this area.
Human beings, who are almost unique in having the ability to learn from the experience of others, are also remarkable for their apparent disinclination to do so.
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RE: 08 Throttle Response - 5/15/2008 8:59:16 AM
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rochkes
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I can't tell any difference of any kind in my throttle response from any other bike I have ever owned or rode.
It is "different" mechanically, but I see no difference in how it feels or responds.
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RE: 08 Throttle Response - 5/15/2008 9:04:50 AM
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I can tell you the fly by wire definitely has a slight delay to the response.
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RE: 08 Throttle Response - 5/15/2008 9:08:12 AM
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I can't tell any difference over any other bike I have owned either there is no delay on my 08 SG. Only difference from my SG and last years VROD is the SG front wheel stays on the ground!
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RE: 08 Throttle Response - 5/15/2008 9:09:46 AM
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nothing to be concerned about
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RE: 08 Throttle Response - 5/15/2008 9:10:13 AM
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BigC
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OK, I'm a convert. After owning nearly a dozen bikes, I picked up my first HD this year. And I too experienced slow throttle response. A month later, I put on Rineharts, X Tuner and SE Intake. What a difference! Its worth every penny. I now get 90 lbs of Torque at 77 HP and excellent throttle response.
Enjoy the summer!
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RE: 08 Throttle Response - 5/15/2008 9:12:12 AM
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For normal riding and getting out and going I don't feel any difference, but when down shifting and coming to a stoplight I always used to blip my throttle before letting out the clutch with each gear going down....I notice the blip is just a hair slower to come on my 08 Ultra.
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RE: 08 Throttle Response - 5/15/2008 9:33:01 AM
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Slightly noticable when motor was stock, with mild build(100/107), completely non existant!
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RE: 08 Throttle Response - 5/15/2008 9:35:37 AM
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drfeelgood
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If anything very slight.
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RE: 08 Throttle Response - 5/15/2008 9:36:12 AM
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Maybe I'm just "slow" like my throttle, but I don't notice any delay. 
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RE: 08 Throttle Response - 5/15/2008 9:38:54 AM
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quote:
ORIGINAL: Ninekiller
...whether or not anyone has experienced the rumoured slow throttle response....
No.
Most rumors started by those who dont have an 08.
Go figure.
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RE: 08 Throttle Response - 5/15/2008 10:22:56 AM
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For normal riding and getting out and going I don't feel any difference, but when down shifting and coming to a stoplight I always used to blip my throttle before letting out the clutch with each gear going down....I notice the blip is just a hair slower to come on my 08 Ultra.
Definately! Most noticeable when down shifting & running sustained rev gear changing. It's a weird feeling & one that's really alien to those of us used to riding for many years.
I get the opinion that freer breathing motors & 'tweaked' EFI's don't suffer it, so it may simply be a tuning issue, but I'm getting cheesed off doing Harley's frickin' R&D and paying extra for the 'privelidge'..
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RE: 08 Throttle Response - 5/15/2008 10:31:29 AM
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When I was last in with Jamie at fuel moto, we got to talking about FBW throttle response and he stated that the system is programmed to not go to 100% throttle below 3250 rpm. he didn't elaborate further on what the ramp up was, but I'll bet that is what most feel as a sluggish throttle. -- Tom
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RE: 08 Throttle Response - 5/15/2008 10:45:13 AM
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RE: 08 Throttle Response - 5/15/2008 10:46:20 AM
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quote:
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When I was last in with Jamie at fuel moto, we got to talking about FBW throttle response and he stated that the system is programmed to not go to 100% throttle below 3250 rpm. he didn't elaborate further on what the ramp up was, but I'll bet that is what most feel as a sluggish throttle. -- Tom
It was designed to limit full throttle below 2000 rpm to stop the lugging in the higher gears which produced scissoring of flywheels and such.
calibration 32935-08D for 96" engines will clean it up abit
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RE: 08 Throttle Response - 5/15/2008 10:52:02 AM
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cant tell on mine throttle response is pretty responsive
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RE: 08 Throttle Response - 5/15/2008 10:55:21 AM
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'08 RK, I heard about it when I bought it, but seriously, I didn't really notice it. I thought it responded as quick, maybe even quicker than some of my past rides. Now, comin' off a non-HD bike from some street rocket might make a lot of difference, but it probably would be the same no matter what for them, after all it's a Harley, not a street screamer. I can tell you this, the response is the best I've ever had on any bike now that it's Stage I. The strangest part for me is being able to roll the grip forward at idle, now that's kinda weird. That said, it took me a while to get over that, about 10 miles, it's all good now and there is no looking back.
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RE: 08 Throttle Response - 5/15/2008 10:59:39 AM
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I went from an '07 to an '08 this year and I don't notice any difference in throttle response. If some of these complaints are real and not imaginary, I think they're isolated to those individual bikes. It's not a universal problem.
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RE: 08 Throttle Response - 5/15/2008 11:17:41 AM
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confused
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I thought NO throttle was "normal", but I guess I have a problem with my 08 with 1500 miles
Besides the check engine light coming on some days and
cruise control not working on some days
Just yesterday, I down shifted to go around a turn then rolled the throttle on:
nothing happened, no matter what I tried, I downshifted again and finally got a throttle respone
Another time we were going along and came into traffic so I slowed down, downshifted, and when I rolled the throttle on nothing happened.
I have gotten pretty good with it when it happens by just shifting again
I have had the bike a month and been back to the dealer EVERY weekend
This is my first Harley, so I thought this is part of the "normal" stuff.
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RE: 08 Throttle Response - 5/15/2008 11:21:17 AM
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hoosierhog88
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No, it's not normal and keep after the dealer to figure it out and fix it.
It seems like a dangerous scenario to me.
For what it's worth, my '08 has been flawless to this point.
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RE: 08 Throttle Response - 5/15/2008 11:22:40 AM
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I can't tell any difference.
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RE: 08 Throttle Response - 5/15/2008 11:36:59 AM
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I can't tell the difference .
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RE: 08 Throttle Response - 5/15/2008 11:39:25 AM
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quote:
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No, it's not normal and keep after the dealer to figure it out and fix it.
It seems like a dangerous scenario to me.
For what it's worth, my '08 has been flawless to this point.
Absofukinlutely!!!!! Confused, since this is your first Harley, let me apologize for the MOCO. This should be a better experience for you. Maybe in the AMF days ....... well, another story. My '08 RK has given me nothing but a great big smile to this point. Sounds like you have some strange stuff and no, it's not normal.
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RE: 08 Throttle Response - 5/15/2008 11:40:01 AM
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RE: 08 Throttle Response - 5/15/2008 12:03:14 PM
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You will be comfortable with it before you ride it into your driveway.
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RE: 08 Throttle Response - 5/15/2008 12:36:05 PM
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Chrizzby
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just be carefull on the slow roll - if you hit a dip in the road and the throttle moves the bike will jump - no slack in the cable, oh there is no cable -= fly by wire ......
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RE: 08 Throttle Response - 5/15/2008 12:47:08 PM
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wildrider
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my 08 rk has excellent throttle response. however, i test road an 08 rg a few weeks ago at H-D demo days, and i did notice a slower response than my rk.
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RE: 08 Throttle Response - 5/15/2008 12:51:35 PM
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08 SG with 3,800 miles so far and no problems. If anything, with the fuel injection the response has been very smooth and predictable. Big improvement over my 06 Triumph.
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RE: 08 Throttle Response - 5/15/2008 1:15:49 PM
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I have a slight delay at start - the bike definitely wants some rpm's. And you will not get 100% of the throttle until 3,000 - that is just the way it is setup by Harley.
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RE: 08 Throttle Response - 5/15/2008 1:32:52 PM
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maxum96
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08 Ultra with 2600 miles. No problems with FBW. I do notice a difference. IT'S MUCH BETTER WITHOUT CABLES!
< Message edited by maxum96 -- 5/15/2008 1:45:19 PM >
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RE: 08 Throttle Response - 5/15/2008 1:40:52 PM
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I have not noticed any delay......works great..
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