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Steering Head Bearing Adjustment Help FIXED - 5/15/2008 1:45:26 PM   
waterboyjack


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   Ok, need a little help with adjusting this bearing. Bike is a 2008 road glide with 1500 miles. My dealer is worthless! He has had the bike twice to address the loose steering head and after takeing the bike apart today, its obvious he never adjusted it. I removed everthing per service manual instructions and made an adjuster tool. I just cant seem to get the darn thing under the upper tree and on the adjuster nut (which I can only see because I removed the upper tree nut and lock plate). Can this procedure really be done with the faring on???? Any tips on the direction I should be coming at the adjuster from??????

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RE: Steering Head Bearing Adjustment Help - 5/15/2008 1:56:53 PM   
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When you tourqe the 1 1/2 nut that will give you ajustment you shouldn't   need to touch  the bearing.Thats why they say in the manual 60 - 80 ftlbs give that a try first.

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RE: Steering Head Bearing Adjustment Help - 5/15/2008 2:25:37 PM   
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OK, I can do that (because I just dont see me getting to the steering head bearing adjuster nut with out removing the upper tree) Hopefully that will be enough. I'll let you know.  TOO HOT to do anymore work for a couple of hours here though (105F).

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RE: Steering Head Bearing Adjustment Help - 5/15/2008 2:40:58 PM   
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105 deg WOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!m  where are you at?    73 in Maryland

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RE: Steering Head Bearing Adjustment Help - 5/15/2008 2:41:30 PM   
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The 1 1/2 nut on my bike was finger tight plenty of movement in the bearing.I tried adjusting  the bearing but could not get the 1/4  inch rod in there also.When I torqued the nut i got 2 swings from the steering and folded the tabs back. The bike handles great 

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RE: Steering Head Bearing Adjustment Help - 5/15/2008 4:18:03 PM   
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During a recent handlebar install I mentioned to my buddy, he owns a shop here in so cal, an issue I had with the front end clunking when hitting sharp bumps or moving over railroad tracks.

After removing the stock handlebars we found the top triple clamp nut to be very loose, we uncovered what seemed to be a mistake made during assembly at the factory...here's what we found.

The fork tubes were so high in the triple clamps not allowing the top triple clamp to seat all the way down on the stem, once the front end was raised off the ground and the triple clamps were loosened to allow the fork tubes to move down the steering head bearing nut went at least 2 1/2 turns allowing the top triple to seat. My buddies 08 Street Glide had the same problem and this fixed it. You could actually see daylight through the side of the stem with the top triple clamp nut removed.

If you tighten the top nut without lowering the forks allowing the triple to seat the nut backs right off, we found this out having adjusted my friends SG nut only, it backed right off creating a severe and extremely frequent clunk.



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RE: Steering Head Bearing Adjustment Help - 5/15/2008 4:18:20 PM   
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During a recent handlebar install I mentioned to my buddy, he owns a shop here in so cal, an issue I had with the front end clunking when hitting sharp bumps or moving over railroad tracks.

After removing the stock handlebars we found the top triple clamp nut to be very loose, we uncovered what seemed to be a mistake made during assembly at the factory...here's what we found.

The fork tubes were so high in the triple clamps not allowing the top triple clamp to seat all the way down on the stem, once the front end was raised off the ground and the triple clamps were loosened to allow the fork tubes to move down the steering head bearing nut went at least 2 1/2 turns allowing the top triple to seat. My buddies 08 Street Glide had the same problem and this fixed it. You could actually see daylight through the side of the stem with the top triple clamp nut removed.

If you tighten the top nut without lowering the forks allowing the triple to seat the nut backs right off, we found this out having adjusted my friends SG nut only, it backed right off creating a severe and extremely frequent clunk.



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RE: Steering Head Bearing Adjustment Help - 5/15/2008 4:24:22 PM   
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My fork tubes where rusted on the top clamp and needed to be driven out with a brass drift.I cleaned the rust from them adding some grease so next time I should be a easy job.Truman is corect with seating the forks as well 

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RE: Steering Head Bearing Adjustment Help - 5/15/2008 5:33:55 PM   
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This is exactly my problem also. You can add a feeling of the handlebars moving so badly that for a split second you aren't sure if the bike is going to go where its being pointed. When I removed the upper nut earlier today the upper tree did "rise" up, even though I had the lower pinch bolts loosened. Another hour or so and I can get back out there and try to get the forks to drop and tourqe the upper nut.

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RE: Steering Head Bearing Adjustment Help - 5/15/2008 5:36:30 PM   
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Just updated my profile. I just moved from Anchorage, Ak. to Yuma, Az. (otherwise known as the "Armpit of the Desert Southwest").

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RE: Steering Head Bearing Adjustment Help - 5/15/2008 11:01:48 PM   
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  This thread does not smell right .
First why does it need adjusting this soon.
Second I find it hard to beleave a dealer can do it .
It is no big deal they do them all of the time and yes with the tool they can do it with out removing the faring.

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RE: Steering Head Bearing Adjustment Help - 5/15/2008 11:40:19 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: waterboyjack

Just updated my profile. I just moved from Anchorage, Ak. to Yuma, Az. (otherwise known as the "Armpit of the Desert Southwest").

Guess where we are?





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Rode 1400 miles down to yuma from Washington State last December. My parents are snow birds in Yuma.

BTW, I didn't think it was an "armpit." Compared to Washington it pretty bleak though. Still beautiful that time of year when the heat is down. 105 is crazy!

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RE: Steering Head Bearing Adjustment Help - 5/16/2008 12:16:15 AM   
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This thread does not smell right .  Get your sniffer checked (or maybe I need a shower)

First why does it need adjusting this soon. Because when I hit a pot hole the handlebars/speedo/tach/forks shake and clunk horribly. Also 4.5 swings when I checked it.

Second I find it hard to beleave a dealer can do it . I'm sure they could do it, if they actually wanted to, instead they seem to have taken the position that " It's new can't have anything wrong with it." Don't know why, and I ain't happy about it. I would much rather drink some beer at the bar across the street from the dealer than have to do this myself.... it is a new bike, I shouldn't have to work on it (well except for putting more goodies on it). I also told the dealer that the front rotors were rubbing on Wed, they drove it around parking lot said it was fine. I could post a video of the rotors rubbing when I raised the front end today.

It is no big deal they do them all of the time and yes with the tool they can do it with out removing the faring. Thanks, I finally found the correct "angle of attack".

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RE: Steering Head Bearing Adjustment Help - 5/16/2008 12:20:00 AM   
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Yeah, I'm still trying to re-adjust to the heat- I'm still riding, but I fry my legs after about 15 mins.

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RE: Steering Head Bearing Adjustment Help - 5/16/2008 12:14:47 PM   
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Just finished a short test ride and it feels like new again. Hit every pothole and speed bump I could find.... NO CLUNK or SLOPPY STEERING.  I didn't move the adjuster nut very much, not even a flat, its too hard to see and figured I could do it again if needed. I DID Torque the upper tree nut to the max specs. and that seems to have done the trick.  Now, why couldn't the dealer do this???? I dunno

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RE: Steering Head Bearing Adjustment Help - 5/16/2008 1:16:41 PM   
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I don't think the stearing head bearing was seated from the factory on my bike.I must have hit a big pot hole and it seated as the 1 1/2 inch nut on the top tree  was finger tight ?

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RE: Steering Head Bearing Adjustment Help FIXED - 5/16/2008 1:27:01 PM   
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had the same issue with my 07 ultra. Fairing has to come off. Not that difficult. Just remove the bracket screws on the forks, remove the screws holding the inner fairing to the ignition switch piece and lift the inner fairing straight up until the top part of the bracket clears the top part of the forks, then rotate toward you (assuming you are in front of the bike facing the handlebar) and gently pull it toward you. Someone, you if you're really agile and coordinated, will have to unplug the ignition . Be sure to place a thick pad on top of your front fender and you can rest the fairing there. Again I am making the assumption that you already removed the outer fairing. Believe me it looks more problematic than it really is. With two people it should be a doable project.

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RE: Steering Head Bearing Adjustment Help FIXED - 5/17/2008 7:53:36 AM   
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Thanks to this thread I finally got the information I need. I took the new GR in for service 1K. Told them I feel clunking in the front end and that I had already checked the faring and other obvious possibilities. I said I read somewhere that there may be a bearing issue with the bikes. The service writer said they will check it out. I made sure I told them I'm headed out for a 2000 mi ride in a couple weeks.

I get a call that the 1k is done and the "mechanic" test rode the bike and of course did not feel anything. I said the bearing needs to be checked. He said ok.
I get another call says its done.
I go to pick it up. The work ticket for the 1k service has a typed note that reads " We recomend the rider avoids bumpy rodes and pot holes". Well la-te-da. I should have a great time sitting on my scoot in the GARAGE then. I live in Chicago, we just had a severe winter. There are more bumpy rodes and pot holes that retard dealership dicks.

Again, thanks to you all for the information that could very well save a mans life.

FTF........

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