It seems every time I'm riding with a group of friends (we're all in our 50's) we get these a#@wipes on crotchrockets coming at us doing a wheelie, or hang in the left lane close to us riding a wheelie. They are making it very dangerous on the roads for us. The next time, we may have to take care of that little problem. I don't need some idiot taking me, my wife and friends down if they lose control and come down among us. It's getting worse; every time we ride lately, someone shows how stupid he is. What do you all think? As we said in the Army, police your own ranks. Ride safe everyone; that means you too; crotchrocket riders! Jr.

In their defense,I was young once and it is next to impossible to control the testosterone.Heck,even now I still feel that rush after a lot of years.Make an extra effort to deal with all bikers as long as they are not threatening you.

Everytime? That's odd.

These guys, off course not all who ride crotch rockets, but quite often like to show off in front of a guy on a Harley. Look at me, look at what I can do. For example, I was by myself cruising between 60-65 on the highway oncewhen low and behold I see from my mirrora rice rocket getting closer and closer to me. Then as he passes me on the left side going 80+ he pops up the front wheel while standing on his pegs and rides the wheelie for about 1/4 mile. What an idiot. Some folks have a death wish.

Its not just crotch rockets.I was getting ride home from car dealership in their shuttle Tuesday and there was a moron on a Dyna alongside.Every stop light he popped a wheelie.3rd stop light the car in front of him had to come to a quick stop,Id quess Mr moron had to go home and change his shorts as their couldnt have been more then an inch between him and the rear bumper.Everyone in the shuttle started talking about the moron and how stupid some motorcyclists are.

If I come across a crotchrocket and I don't know the rider.........he's a punk, I just let them do their thing, give them as much room as I can, because eventually one of those punks are gonna go down or get pulled over by Mr. Copper.

I have a sportbike and ride it often. It makes me feel like a kid again which is a good feeling. Doing wheelies? Not this old guy. Hell, I did a wheelie several weeks ago on a cannondale and ended up in the e.r. I'm still sore from that fall..haha.
A buddy of ours with a V-Rod does wheelies constantly and I agree that it's dangerous. I keep my distance because I don't want him taking me down when he crashes, and it most likely will happen!

Chief X

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I've been on HD's for years and I'm in my lllllaaattteee 30's+:D I sometimes still feel the urge to get a Hyabusa or one of the other common rockets and go carve up some twisty roads. Then I sit on one and have to pull my right leg up onto the footpeg, let it sit there and have my knee be painful for 20 seconds as a reminder, then I go out and get on my RK. It's h#ll getting old.[&o]

Those guys spend countless hours cleaning and polishing the underside of those bikes. It's the best looking part of them.

The least you could do is appreciate it.

I have a neighbor - kid in his mid 20's - with a crotch rocket. He and several of his friends often congregate at his house before and after rides, so I get to see and visit with them. These guys ride hard - doing wheelies and stoppies at every light, but they are really a great bunch of guys when you talk to them. First time the kid stopped at my house on his bike, I noticed the top of his gas tank was all smashed in and asked how the F he did that. He said he bashed it in with a hammer so it was more comfy when he sits on it and wheelies down the street with his feet over the handlebars. I laughed, and he proceeded to show me. Long story short - I was a kid too some years back and can relate to their riding style. It ain't for me now, but I'm old. It's is refreshing to actually visit with some of these guys and find out that they aren't just a bunch of idiots. They do work on their bikes and we often spend hours in my driveway or his working on the bikes and shooting the breeze. I have been startled a few times by a crotch rocket flying past me in my lane doing over 100 MPH, and have felt like beating the crap out of them (if I could catch them - LOL), but most that I have taken the time to visit with are decent people, just crazy like most of us were as kids.

the new law in florida to curtail some of the stuff done by the crotch rockets affects all bikers. all the penalties were drasticly raised for speeding and dangerous driving on motorcycles. including up to a year in jail for some offensives.

ORIGINAL: UncleDon

If I come across a crotchrocket and I don't know the rider.........he's a punk, I just let them do their thing, give them as much room as I can, because eventually one of those punks are gonna go down or get pulled over by Mr. Copper.


What an ignorant comment. It's the rider that makes the bike do stunts and not the bike. Not everyone who rides a crotchrocket is a "punk". I get a chuckle out of wondering what people think about me when I'm not riding my HD. Most the people I've ever come across who think that bike makes the person aren't true riders they just think they are.

"Why is youth wasted on the young"?

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ORIGINAL: UncleDon

If I come across a crotchrocket and I don't know the rider.........he's a punk, I just let them do their thing, give them as much room as I can, because eventually one of those punks are gonna go down or get pulled over by Mr. Copper.


What an ignorant comment. It's the rider that makes the bike do stunts and not the bike. Not everyone who rides a crotchrocket is a "punk". I get a chuckle out of wondering what people think about me when I'm not riding my HD. Most the people I've ever come across who think that bike makes the person aren't true riders they just think they are.
they are all punks, idiots, knuckleheads unless I know them or until I know them

I ride myBMW sport tourerfaster and more aggressively than my Ultra Classic because I can. I always use good judgement and don't hot dog. I suppose this is why I've lived to ride +30 years.

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To 99.999% of Mr. and Mrs. John Q Public, ALL motorcycle ridersare idiots.:eek: Yesthe crotchrockes ridersare a problem, But sadly around my area it kinda takes care of itself. I read of 3 or 4 fatal crashesa month around here, most of which involve crotchrockets.[:@]
Very, very sad!

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"Why is youth wasted on the young"?
Because God, too, has a sense of humor.;)

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ORIGINAL: sleepman54

ORIGINAL: UncleDon

If I come across a crotchrocket and I don't know the rider.........he's a punk, I just let them do their thing, give them as much room as I can, because eventually one of those punks are gonna go down or get pulled over by Mr. Copper.


What an ignorant comment. It's the rider that makes the bike do stunts and not the bike. Not everyone who rides a crotchrocket is a "punk". I get a chuckle out of wondering what people think about me when I'm not riding my HD. Most the people I've ever come across who think that bike makes the person aren't true riders they just think they are.
they are all punks, idiots, knuckleheads unless I know them or until I know them

I try to look at it from the opposite direction. They're only punks, idiots, knuckleheads, what ever explitive you care to use, after they prove to me that that's what they are. I don't like people pre-judging me just because I ride a motorcycle, or a given brand or style of motorcycle, and I try not to do it to others.

Ride Safe,
Steve R.

PS: If a person likes to do wheelies, that's fine with me, but do it in an appropriate setting. That's "not" on public roads and especially NOT in traffic!

ORIGINAL: UncleDon

If I come across a crotchrocket and I don't know the rider.........he's a punk, I just let them do their thing, give them as much room as I can, because eventually one of those punks are gonna go down or get pulled over by Mr. Copper.


WOW I hope we don't cross paths. My wife and I BOTh ride a Katana. First time i was called a punk at 45:)


jim

How about just letting them enjoy the freedoms that we have fought for? They're not mad at you for doing your own thing, why get mad at them?

Motorcycles, regardless of brand, serve many purposes in our society. For most, they provide recreation and a hobby. For some, they provide daily transportation. For a few, they provide a way to weed out the gene pool. As long as you can manage to stay out of their way, let nature take care of itself.

This may sound insensitive, but any time I read about somebody getting killed because they were riding/driving at ridiculous speeds the last thing I feel is pity or sorrow. The way I see it, that's one less idiot on the road that I have to worry about.

As another poster pointed out last week, this forum is full of Harley riders bragging about how fast they go, getting out of tickets, setting off car alarms with their pipes, etc etc,but the bitching is usually about sportbike riders.

We are all in the wind, and if we don't police ourselves, we can expect others to do it for us, as shown bywhat is happening in Florida.

they are all punks, idiots until they prove to me otherwise

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ORIGINAL: UncleDon

If I come across a crotchrocket and I don't know the rider.........he's a punk, I just let them do their thing, give them as much room as I can, because eventually one of those punks are gonna go down or get pulled over by Mr. Copper.


What an ignorant comment. It's the rider that makes the bike do stunts and not the bike. Not everyone who rides a crotchrocket is a "punk". I get a chuckle out of wondering what people think about me when I'm not riding my HD. Most the people I've ever come across who think that bike makes the person aren't true riders they just think they are.
they are all punks, idiots, knuckleheads unless I know them or until I know them




Well lets just hate all over them....better yet lets just shoot 'em they are different then us. Forget the fact they could be one of our kids. Then we can go after the metric Vtwin riders....then European riders. Hey ya know what..those people on scooters suck too.

ORIGINAL: MNPGRider

As another poster pointed out last week, this forum is full of Harley riders bragging about how fast they go, getting out of tickets, setting off car alarms with their pipes, etc etc,but the bitching is usually about sportbike riders.

We are all in the wind, and if we don't police ourselves, we can expect others to do it for us, as shown bywhat is happening in Florida.

Amen, Amen to that!!

Those "John Q. Public" types that Will2002 referred to are exactly the types they have in Florida. What scares me is if they pull it off without any successful legal challenges there, it will only encourage folks in other parts of the country to do the same thing. Once the precident is set, we can be screwed in more ways than we ever thought possible!

Think about it, and Ride Safe,
Steve R.

I'm an old fart, when I was in HS our skateboards had steel or those old hard rubber wheels. No high flying with those things. In the 80s I hade an RD400 cafe' bike and preferred to keep both wheels on the ground at all times(not always successful). The big change has been the equipment, kids do aerobatics on skateboards, snowboards, bicycles and as soon as daddy buys them one, on motorcycles. They see the trick riders doing it and find they can too. Not being of that generation, the thought of rolling the throttle on and pulling a wheelie at 80+mph would never occur to me. Even in my day we pushed the equipment to the max, it's just that the max is at a much higher level now. The consequences are too.
I admit that draggin' a kneein a 80-90 mph corner on the old RD was a real rush, if I were 20 yrs old today riding a 'busa, I have no doubt I would be wheelying with the rest of em'. Just don't have that kind of reactions anymore. Kids, and adults, have been challenging death since the beginning of time. It's not going to change now, deal with it!

ORIGINAL: PowerJunkie

How about just letting them enjoy the freedoms that we have fought for? They're not mad at you for doing your own thing, why get mad at them?


'Cause me doin my thing doesn't put them or their loved ones in harm's way. I'll agree it isn't all of 'em. I know a couple rocket jockeys, and they're respectable guys that don't endanger others on the road...one of 'em actually takes his to a track when he really wants to open it up. I respect the hell outta that guy 'cause he respects the rest of us enuf to keep it where it belongs. But there are way too many others out there that don't follow suit, and don't give a **** who they endanger. Two of 'em 'bout got me and my 10 year-old son killed passin us in a blind curve one time...barely squeezed back in front of us as a van was comin the opposite direction. If they tangled with the van...no way me 'n my son avoid it as close as they were. Saw 'em at a store on down the road...stopped and "educated" 'em both.

I live just a few minutes from the infamous Dragon...and we get idiots from 'round the world...already hauled two dead 'uns off the Dragon this year, and it's EARLY in the season...just dumb luck when they go down if they don't take someone else with 'em. And no, the idiots aren't limited to just sport bikes...but they do make up the vast majority 'round here.

ORIGINAL: RHPAW

Those guys spend countless hours cleaning and polishing the underside of those bikes. It's the best looking part of them.

The least you could do is appreciate it.


Appreciate stuppidity? They can do all the stunts they want but not next to someone else who they can take out with them.

I'm cool with people riding like jackasses... just don't share a lane with me while you're doing it... especially if I don't know you.

ORIGINAL: PowerJunkie

How about just letting them enjoy the freedoms that we have fought for? They're not mad at you for doing your own thing, why get mad at them?


Freedom doesn't include endangering the lives of others or ignoring (breaking) the law.

When I got back from the service I did somereally stupid things on a bike (wheely on my Sportster while standing on the seat comes to mind ), BUT I never did them in poulated areas. If I had gone down at 120 in the desert, well it would have been me and a few cactii. As someone whoserved to protectthe freedoms we have I feel I have the right to state that you are free to do anything you want as long as it does not endanger another innocent.

Damn, what abunch of cantankerous old farts....;)

If you wanna do something stupid on the street (drag race, do wheelies, etc), go out in the middle of nowhere with no one around. That way when you wipe out you kill your bike or yourself you don't hurt anything or anyone else. I'm sick and tired of watching crotch rocket riders doing wheelies and other dumb stunts in populated areas in traffic. And because of this behavior by this group of riders, I now take a dim view of crotch rockets (I've been a motorcyclist for over 30 years). The wife and I were out riding the other day and 3 crotch rocket morons were attempting to do wheelies while riding towards us. I was just waiting for one of them to loose it and take us out. I'm a city cop and it seems like the majority of crotch rocket riders seem to have no mc endorsement, or no insurance, or their driver's license is suspended (big surprise).

I'll get off my soapbox now.

ORIGINAL: MetalSpike
Appreciate stuppidity? They can do all the stunts they want but not next to someone else who they can take out with them.


It's called SARCASM..........Why would I think that someone who can't spell "Stupidity" would understand?

Tough room.......

ORIGINAL: sleepman54

ORIGINAL: UncleDon

If I come across a crotchrocket and I don't know the rider.........he's a punk, I just let them do their thing, give them as much room as I can, because eventually one of those punks are gonna go down or get pulled over by Mr. Copper.


What an ignorant comment. It's the rider that makes the bike do stunts and not the bike. Not everyone who rides a crotchrocket is a "punk". I get a chuckle out of wondering what people think about me when I'm not riding my HD. Most the people I've ever come across who think that bike makes the person aren't true riders they just think they are.


WhileYOU may notride thatway. His comment or presumption was a stereotypical responseto that group of the motorcycling community. And quite frankly, an accurate one in general. Just as "all Harley's are loud" to the othergroupsof our society. If you areoffended by his stereotyping of you/them; then as the above post says "Police the ranks".

For my continued safety I will presume those "punks" to be a hazard and stay clear of them too; until proven otherwise. As for right now the majority rules.

ORIGINAL: smithr

It seems every time I'm riding with a group of friends (we're all in our 50's) we get these a#@wipes on crotchrockets coming at us doing a wheelie, or hang in the left lane close to us riding a wheelie. They are making it very dangerous on the roads for us. The next time, we may have to take care of that little problem. I don't need some idiot taking me, my wife and friends down if they lose control and come down among us. It's getting worse; every time we ride lately, someone shows how stupid he is. What do you all think?

I heard that! I had some crotchrocket ahole jagoff lane split me on a 2 lane road when I was doing about 50mph in a 45 mph zone. He must have been going 80-100mph. Missed my left grip by inches because there was a car in the oncoming lane. He was wearing t-shirt, shorts & hightop basketball shoes. His passenger has shorts, halter, and sandals. No helmets of course.Worst part, I caught up to him at the next traffic light......just asked him WTF is your disfunction? I have 3 daughters and could only think how horrified that girl's Father would be if he knew how this idiot was driving with his daughter on the back. Either one of them couldn't have been 20 years old.

Deathwish for sure. :eek:

ORIGINAL: PowerJunkie

How about just letting them enjoy the freedoms that we have fought for? They're not mad at you for doing your own thing, why get mad at them?


Mostly because John Q Public eventually gets tired of the BS and all of a sudden laws get passed. The downside is that it affects ALL riders, not just the ones who think they have 9 lives.

This holds true for us Harley riders too though. Not necessarily the crazy riding (too hard to pop a wheelie on my Electra Glide! ;)), but other things like loud pipes. A few people go overboard with the loudness or just being an azzhole, and it comes down and affects the rest of us. Same concept.

I guess I really don't have an opinion either way, but I would like to see the insurance studies of the ages of those killed on motorcycles, that might provide some insight into to this tread.

A few years ago, I was riding with two friends-me on my R1, one on a Duc 996 and the other on a Aprillia Mille. As we were riding through a state park, we came up on another Duc 996, rider in full leathers, who procedes to pull the front wheel up and ride it for the next 2 miles, turns and all. We finally get to a roadside picnic area where some other bikes had stopped and we all parked. Imagine my surprise when the wheelymeister on the Duc removed his helmet to reveal a man in his 50's with snow white hair. We chatted a while before he mounted up and took off. We all watched as he rode off in the same manner as he arrived, disappearing around the bend with front wheel lifted skyward. Although I can find it annoying, it is not the fact that the 'kids'are 'stunting', it's that I wasn't paying attention enough to see them coming.

ORIGINAL: UncleDon
they are all punks, idiots until they prove to me otherwise


you're a fool. i'm 23 and will out-ride you any day of the week on either of bikes. That suzuki in my sig would skull**** the rattletrap you ride.

ORIGINAL: phipps66
you're a fool. i'm 23 and will out-ride you any day of the week on either of bikes. That suzuki in my sig would skull**** the rattletrap you ride.


So what's your point? What does that prove? [sm=GrowUp.gif]

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ORIGINAL: phipps66
you're a fool. i'm 23 and will out-ride you any day of the week on either of bikes. That suzuki in my sig would skull**** the rattletrap you ride.

So what's your point? What does that prove? [sm=GrowUp.gif]



Well he DID say he was 23......;)

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ORIGINAL: UncleDon
they are all punks, idiots until they prove to me otherwise


you're a fool. i'm 23 and will out-ride you any day of the week on either of bikes. That suzuki in my sig would skull**** the rattletrap you ride.
outride me all you want,,you just proved nothing, other then how much of a punk, idiot you really are.

i just want to find what makes me an idiot? the bike i ride? cause i ride a harley too.

ok.then you are just a punk

Phipps it is an attitude like that that proves their point. you may outride em but probably won't outive em and you will be the story around the campfire...happy trails...



BOSSMAN

ok. hang yourself.

ORIGINAL: Todd T


WhileYOU may notride thatway. His comment or presumption was a stereotypical responseto that group of the motorcycling community. And quite frankly, an accurate one in general. Just as "all Harley's are loud" to the othergroupsof our society. If you areoffended by his stereotyping of you/them; then as the above post says "Police the ranks".

For my continued safety I will presume those "punks" to be a hazard and stay clear of them too; until proven otherwise. As for right now the majority rules.


So by your method of reasoning "the majority rules" so everytime we see a thread about crackdowns of loud exhaust such as motorcycles being banned from AtlanticStation because people complained about the noise, then that's okay as well and we shouldn't complain because "the majority rules".

Again I say just because someone decides to ride a certain style of bike it doesn't make them any different from anyone else.

bossman, its just ignorance man. i just don't see the light, when i ride my harley i am a cool cat, but when i saddle up the sport bike i'm a punk? there is no explanation

CANT WE ALL JUST GET ALONG!!!!

ORIGINAL: Chief X

A buddy of ours with a V-Rod does wheelies constantly and I agree that it's dangerous.

Really? That takes some skill. It's tough to get a V-rod up. I've been known to give wheelieing sport bikers a cheap shot to the ribs when I pass them. Had one jerk wheelie past me three times in about two miles. The third time he was way too close, so I hit his kill switch. Not sure how he saved it, but he got off the road.

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ORIGINAL: UncleDon
they are all punks, idiots until they prove to me otherwise


you're a fool. i'm 23 and will out-ride you any day of the week on either of bikes. That suzuki in my sig would skull**** the rattletrap you ride.


Do you kiss your mom with that mouth?

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ORIGINAL: UncleDon
they are all punks, idiots until they prove to me otherwise


you're a fool. i'm 23 and will out-ride you any day of the week on either of bikes. That suzuki in my sig would skull**** the rattletrap you ride.


This statement alone classicallyverifies smithr's contention about folks that choose to ride these bikes.
I think sportbikers feel like they are the REAL bikers, while the riders of big cruisers prove by their conservative style that they (we) can't or don't ride well..... And they want to show off their skills to us!!
Phipps,
You probably DO outride me (whatever that means) I'm 51, and didn't get that way by being reckless with my life. I may speak for others here (or just for myself) when I say to you that sportbikes, to me, represent the clearest stereotypical example of a "death wish", and people that choose to ridethem seem to want to fulfill the stereotype. If not, why own one?
Since you ride both, which do you have more fun with, and which peer group better represents real life?
BTW... That's a cool springer you've got!

ORIGINAL: DesertSpeed

The third time he was way too close, so I hit his kill switch. Not sure how he saved it, but he got off the road.



If that is even remotely true, which I find pretty hard to believe, thenyou're worse then any idiot riding a wheelie.

Awwww, don't be too hard on those kids! I was young once too.They will find that gravity eventually catches upwith themand they will be too old and slow to carry on in that manner.....Eventually they will be on an H-D.....I'veNEVER seen a 50+ year-old doing wheelies/stoppies on a sport-bike!!!!!

ORIGINAL: DrSmaggs

I'm cool with people riding like jackasses... just don't share a lane with me while you're doing it... especially if I don't know you.




+1

ORIGINAL: honestbob

the new law in florida to curtail some of the stuff done by the crotch rockets affects all bikers. all the penalties were drasticly raised for speeding and dangerous driving on motorcycles. including up to a year in jail for some offensives.


On busy US 19 in Florida, I seen wheelies being done by guys on rice rockets. It's a 3 lane road that can be very busy on some parts in Pasco and Pinellas. Both occasions happened within a week of each other too on the same road. No Harleys around though. The light turns green, they had to get out front and do their wheelies. The one guy didn't even have a helmet. Too bad the cops were not around to see it. It really isn't a smart thing to do with all the Blue hairs around.

That's why I carry a cane. I find waving it in the air while yelling "you young whippersnappers" much more effective than my fist.

ORIGINAL: MCSarge
It's h#ll getting old.[&o] It sure beats the alternative!

thanks for the compliment don. good question, i can't say i have more fun with either. if i had to choose, the sport bikes are more fun to ride. the harley is more fun. it really depends on my mood, whether i want to go for a ride or for a cruise. but one thing i did realize, when i get off the harley, i ride the suzuki harder because its faster and corners better., which could be bad. i also think its funny to leave a bar or restaurant on my harley, then go back by like 20 minutes later on my sportbike. i always chuckle at the dirty looks i get, if they only knew who was under the helmet. its like leading a double life sometimes

phipps66, where in Connecticut are you?

halfway between waterbury and new haven, "the valley"

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ORIGINAL: UncleDon

If I come across a crotchrocket and I don't know the rider.........he's a punk, I just let them do their thing, give them as much room as I can, because eventually one of those punks are gonna go down or get pulled over by Mr. Copper.


What an ignorant comment. It's the rider that makes the bike do stunts and not the bike. Not everyone who rides a crotchrocket is a "punk". I get a chuckle out of wondering what people think about me when I'm not riding my HD. Most the people I've ever come across who think that bike makes the person aren't true riders they just think they are.
they are all punks, idiots, knuckleheads unless I know them or until I know them


Well to them your just an asshole geezer rider on a Harley so get used to them treating you the same way and don't expect any better. Your one of the reasons young people hate hd riders. Damn

ORIGINAL: phipps66

halfway between waterbury and new haven, "the valley"


I'm from Ansonia. Going back to visit on Thursday.

That house looks familiar.

oo cool, might remind you of the raised ranches and such hilltop way, i am actually from oxford

ORIGINAL: phipps66

oo cool, might remind you of the raised ranches and such hilltop way, i am actually from oxford


I know Oxford well. My cousin lives up on Perry Lane off of 67, and I have friends on Chestnut Tree Hill and Old Mountain Road, over by Falbo's, etc.

I meant that exact house looks familiar...

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ORIGINAL: DesertSpeed

The third time he was way too close, so I hit his kill switch. Not sure how he saved it, but he got off the road.



If that is even remotely true, which I find pretty hard to believe, thenyou're worse then any idiot riding a wheelie.


My wife was on the back of our bike. I made the decision to take the jackass out before he got us. I could have just kicked him over, like my brother does.

ooo wow, my dads name is greg if thats any help

Been there and rode like that from 18-23. There's no stopping the need for speed and riding wheelies. Throw in the fact, that you want to look cool and what do you expect??? I've seen plenty of idiot Harley riders myself so my advice is be careful, and if you see someone hauling ass or doing stupid chit, slow down and get out of their way....then give em the bird! ;)

ORIGINAL: UncleDon

Uncles who live in Ramona and ride white Road Kings are all punks, idiots until they prove to me otherwise


What a Ramoron. Hope I never see you on the road (remember I live down the hill from you). My nephew rides a 'crotch rocket' and has more brains than you and the PHD to prove it.

Go back to polishing your 'ride'

No wonder "different" riders have attitude. We are all our own WORST enemies. Stereo-type all riders that aren't like yourselves. Prejudice is an ugly thing and we don't know our own hearts. Good thread to prove that isn't it.

jim

ORIGINAL: rh8234

I have a neighbor - kid in his mid 20's - with a crotch rocket. He and several of his friends often congregate at his house before and after rides, so I get to see and visit with them. These guys ride hard - doing wheelies and stoppies at every light, but they are really a great bunch of guys when you talk to them. First time the kid stopped at my house on his bike, I noticed the top of his gas tank was all smashed in and asked how the F he did that. He said he bashed it in with a hammer so it was more comfy when he sits on it and wheelies down the street with his feet over the handlebars. I laughed, and he proceeded to show me. Long story short - I was a kid too some years back and can relate to their riding style. It ain't for me now, but I'm old. It's is refreshing to actually visit with some of these guys and find out that they aren't just a bunch of idiots. They do work on their bikes and we often spend hours in my driveway or his working on the bikes and shooting the breeze. I have been startled a few times by a crotch rocket flying past me in my lane doing over 100 MPH, and have felt like beating the crap out of them (if I could catch them - LOL), but most that I have taken the time to visit with are decent people, just crazy like most of us were as kids.


IMO - I'm sure that these guys are great people. I'm sure that they are young and full of energy. I know that I was once young and full of energy as well. I did some stupid things back in the day. Wheelie's, twisties, tittie twisters (haha) all have a time and a place. The time and place is NOT the streets. They can be the nicest folks off the roads but if they do these things on the streets it is simply dangerous for them and everyone around them. I hope that they live to be old someday and they can gripe about the stupid things kids do.

ORIGINAL: LilBudyWizer

That's why I carry a cane. I find waving it in the air while yelling "you young whippersnappers" much more effective than my fist.


LOL - I've been considering a sidecar for the walker. Lately it has been throwing off the balance of the bike ;)

ORIGINAL: DesertSpeed

My wife was on the back of our bike. I made the decision to take the jackass out before he got us. I could have just kicked him over, like my brother does.



Like I said that makes you a bigger idiot then anyone riding a wheelie. At least they're oblivious to the fact that they could hurt or kill someone. At any rate I still find it hard to believe that you could reach out and hit the kill switch on a rocket that was passing you.

I think you've just watched one too many movies.

ORIGINAL: will2002

To 99.999% of Mr. and Mrs. John Q Public, ALL motorcycle ridersare idiots.:eek: Yesthe crotchrockes ridersare a problem, But sadly around my area it kinda takes care of itself. I read of 3 or 4 fatal crashesa month around here, most of which involve crotchrockets.[:@]
Very, very sad!


So are a$$hole Harley biker punks who lane split in heavy traffic revving the snot out of their drag piped bikes.

So are the a$$hole Harley biker punkswho continuously feel the need the shift their bikes right at the rev limiter to impress all the pedestrianpublic.....

So lets knock off all the raggin' on "crotch rocket" bikes.

There is ALL types of a$$holes in the motorcycling world....

I have done wheelies on my Ducati but they haven't been done on purpose. Anyway with all the Harley riders I see drinking at bars I really don't think Harley riders have the right to complain about sport bike riders safety concerns.

So many seem to have missed the point here.
This is not about rider prejudice or stereotyping - who really cares what the hell you're riding; it HOW you ride it to keep others and yourselves SAFE on the roads. Wanna do wheelies? Get off the public roads, away from pedestrians and anybody else and have a good time. Get a dirtbike. The real point here is wheelie riding and excessive speed ON PUBLIC ROADS places everyone else in real danger, which is why cops, lawyers, and judges call it "reckless driving" and "speeding".
Using public roads to prove something to yourself or your friends is ignorant and irresponsible. DO IT SOMEWHERE ELSE. If you crash and burn, at least you didn't take someone's relative with you.

Heading down home up I-95 North we were tooling along at 70mph and these 3 crotch rocket azz wipes in shorts and tennis shoes came whipping by at a screetching 130+ weaving in an out of traffic. If I had needed to go to my right or left lanes, despite putting on my blinkers it would have been to late for them theyt came on that fast. I was laughing my azz off because as they passed me they came up on a local police and there was nothing he even tried to do they went by him so fast.

ORIGINAL: homefront

So many seem to have missed the point here.
This is not about rider prejudice or stereotyping - who really cares what the hell you're riding; it HOW you ride it to keep others and yourselves SAFE on the roads. Wanna do wheelies? Get off the public roads, away from pedestrians and anybody else and have a good time. Get a dirtbike. The real point here is wheelie riding and excessive speed ON PUBLIC ROADS places everyone else in real danger, which is why cops, lawyers, and judges call it "reckless driving" and "speeding".
Using public roads to prove something to yourself or your friends is ignorant and irresponsible. DO IT SOMEWHERE ELSE. If you crash and burn, at least you didn't take someone's relative with you.


Or they should just eliminate speed limits on roads. And me speeding on my bike is a lot less dangerous to those around me than others doing the speed limit while text messaging in their cars. Boy you guys must be all a 100 or something.

courtesy is the glue that holds the fabric of society together. When you drive carelessly and recklessly there by endangering those around you, you are not only a horses ass you are dead wrong.

ORIGINAL: homefront

So many seem to have missed the point here.
This is not about rider prejudice or stereotyping - who really cares what the hell you're riding; it HOW you ride it to keep others and yourselves SAFE on the roads. Wanna do wheelies? Get off the public roads, away from pedestrians and anybody else and have a good time. Get a dirtbike. The real point here is wheelie riding and excessive speed ON PUBLIC ROADS places everyone else in real danger, which is why cops, lawyers, and judges call it "reckless driving" and "speeding".
Using public roads to prove something to yourself or your friends is ignorant and irresponsible. DO IT SOMEWHERE ELSE. If you crash and burn, at least you didn't take someone's relative with you.


Amen brother !!!! THATS the point. Hate the sin not the sinner.........

Atomic,

I wasn't 100 until last summer, when a speeder killed my son. Apparently you haven't lost a loved one to someone speeding.

Yes, texting etc. while driving should be outlawed - when you're driving, that's ALL you should be doing. Not all laws are fair, or even smart, but most exist for good reason - to protect us all, even you. Which is why you shouldn't speed anywhere, except on a racetrack.

ORIGINAL: DesertSpeed

ORIGINAL: sleepman54

ORIGINAL: DesertSpeed

The third time he was way too close, so I hit his kill switch. Not sure how he saved it, but he got off the road.



If that is even remotely true, which I find pretty hard to believe, thenyou're worse then any idiot riding a wheelie.


My wife was on the back of our bike. I made the decision to take the jackass out before he got us. I could have just kicked him over, like my brother does.



That is the most ridiculous thing I have ever heard. There is no way in hellyou leaned over and hit the kill switch on a bike passing you. Seriously, you should think about what you are typing before you post such garbage.

They're not "crotchrockets". They're sportbikes.
Only people who don't know sh!t about motorcycles call them crotchrockets.[sm=escape.gif]

Many if not most cagersthink that it's reckless to ride our highways on two wheels, but we think they'rewrong.What makes so many of youthink that wheelying is so wrong?To many of us it's as simpleas eating pie with the right bike, and fun as hell.Iwheeliemy sportbike, like I wheelied my hotwheels,my skateboard,myBMX.... If I don't do it on crowded streets, what's the freak'n problem?

Anyways, I'm just glad that whenever oneharleytype starts whipping on sportbikers, or sportbiketypesstart with their chest thumping, that there's always some level headed response to offset the stupidity.I've raced orI've cruisedor I've toured with nearly every type of motorcyclistand nearly every brand of motorcycle, and seen the worst of each.

Homefront, I'm sorry for your loss, l can't imagine what it's like to loosea child.

hmmmm...


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PITA,

Thank you, I hope you never know.

PITA,

Its not wheelies its where you chose to do them. If, like you suggest one performs them out of harms wayof others thats a good common sense application. If it is performed while tooling down the hwy or other public thurough fairs thats the issue. When ever what ever you're doing accelerates the potential to harm other innocent by standers you're wrong. I'll defend your right to kill or maim yourself if you want to.

Being on 2 wheels puts one on the losing end of whatever mishap might occur while traversing the highways and by ways.

What happened to common courtesy on the road?

ORIGINAL: Bean Dip

They're not "crotchrockets". They're sportbikes.
Only people who don't know sh!t about motorcycles call them crotchrockets.[sm=escape.gif]

I can only assume you are a "crotchrocketeer". Somehow in my 45+ yrs of riding I feel I have the right and knowledge to call an overpowered racetrack ready bike a "crotchrocket" if I choose. I put in 10 yrs on a hyped up RD400, possibly before you were out of diapers, and appreciate a high performance vehicle that I call a "crotchrocket"!
I understand the sarcasm and your "duck and run" smiley. [sm=shootshoot.gif]

Used tobe fun back in the day when a kid on the JT1 60 mini enduro or the XR75 or MX 125 to do wheelies. On a crotch rocket on the road-NAH.

Just check out www.youtube.com (http://www.youtube.com) and punch in the search "motorcycle crashes" or "motorcycle wheelies" and watch the results. OUCH.

MY FLHS won't even get the front wheel off the ground anyway's-good thing.

Sportbikes passing me doing wheelie's?

I'm usually too busy watching for the next silver haired Buick driver to pull out right in front of me to notice. That Suzuki in the nextlane doesn't even compare to the SUV that's running up my ass, and I'm always going plenty fast.

Yesterday going from Escondido to Ramona on the 78,(very windy two lane road)two HD's were headed my way andan idiot crotchrocket passes them going over the double yellow, forcing me to move over or there wound have been one less crotcrocket on the road. I flipped him off, I know he saw me, not that it did any good. Wonder if the two HD's caught up with him and kicked his ass.

Wonder if the two HD's caught up with him and kicked his ass.

One can only hope.

It is said that violence is the tool of the ignorant...every now and then it needs to be demonstrated what a good tool it is.

Wow, what a load of ignorance on both sides of this thread.

I've owned numerous sportbikes, and now ride a Softail. Most of the guys here have never ridden a sportbike, and have these crazy opinions of everyone on them and what they are.

Sportbikes are wonderful, a ton of fun, and when used correctly, much more exiting than any harley. Try riding one on the track, I bet you love it, everyone of you (and yes I have seen MANY men in their 50's and 60's riding sportbikes at the track.

On top of that, most serious sportbikers are much better technical riders than most cruiser riders could ever hope to be. The bikes handle better, smoother, and way more stable at high speeds.

I'd love to know why you all think wheelies are so dangerous? Because its on one wheel? Sure, noone should be wheelying through your lane, but that said, its not the wheelie thats dangerous, but the rider.

I've met more drunk HD riders than I ever have idiot sportbike riders. When I stop for food, it isnt groups of sportbike riders handing around pitchers, its the HD guys, ALWAYS.

I was riding on Saturday doing about 5 over the speed limit in the left lane, overtaking a car who was putt-putting along in the right lane. There were two guys riding baggers (RK Classics)in front of him. They saw me coming and one of them immediately moved into the left lane and slowed down to the speed of the car. So they blocked me from riding past. And they kept this pace for a while. Ridiculous.

ORIGINAL: 3power

I was riding on Saturday doing about 5 over the speed limit in the left lane, overtaking a car who was putt-putting along in the right lane. There were two guys riding baggers (RK Classics)in front of him. They saw me coming and one of them immediately moved into the left lane and slowed down to the speed of the car. So they blocked me from riding past. And they kept this pace for a while. Ridiculous.


You should have reached over and hit his kill switch!

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you guys are funny, I take it your some are the same guys who rode around in the late 60's or '70s with those "choppers" with 20 inch over front ends with no brake and proclaimed how safe they were, while racing from light to light. now with a few years under your belt you ride a bagger with every doo dad and gismo they sell from drink holders to gps systems. now your "joe responsible" and would never do anything unsafe. funny how you look at things with a few years under your belt. And some are newbys to the sport who will believe anything "hog" tells them .you can tell them , theyre the guys who will go for a long [30 minute] ride after cutting their grass and doin all the weekend chores. and they have to wear their biker costume. they took the weekend safety course and the doo rag 101 class, so they don't put it on backwords. whatever happened to doing your own thing? live and let live if some guy wants to wheelie for 10 miles why let it bother you?.,,,

ORIGINAL: smithr

It seems every time I'm riding with a group of friends (we're all in our 50's) we get these a#@wipes on crotchrockets coming at us doing a wheelie, or hang in the left lane close to us riding a wheelie. They are making it very dangerous on the roads for us. The next time, we may have to take care of that little problem. I don't need some idiot taking me, my wife and friends down if they lose control and come down among us. It's getting worse; every time we ride lately, someone shows how stupid he is. What do you all think? As we said in the Army, police your own ranks. Ride safe everyone; that means you too; crotchrocket riders! Jr.



Those who know themselves walk tranquil and serene in the storm of life.
People with serious self esteem problems try to compensate however they can, usually doing stupid things.
As Dante Alighieri said "let us not talk of them, but look and pass."

good post satansoft and big cahuna, best way it could be said

I roll a rocket as well... i think it is funny when the old harley guys give me crap, then i have a HD that is modded out as well... just makes me laugh at their live to ride derby covers and fringe on the bars... I used to walk wheelies down the HWY as well... not so much on it now with all the work it has into it... but still, not like the people that i piss off can do much, #1 there is no way they can catch me, if they do... ha ha ha well...

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I've seen a few of these "idiots" out on the road. I actually think its pretty sweet what some of them can do. I've also driven a car behind a few so we could get 2 mile wheelies on film. Maybe its just because I'm only 22, but it doesn't bother me what others do. And I sure as hell am not gonna be a fuggin dumb a$$, and purposely try to make them wreck. As far as I'm concerned, these assailants can ride on as many wheels as they want.

ORIGINAL: big cahuna
if some guy wants to wheelie for 10 miles why let it bother you?.,,,


I mind my own business, and that's exactly why I bother: because I could be the poor sod he crashes into, that's why.
You're not alone on the road, and you should remember that freedom means responisbility. Without the latter, you are not entitled to the first.
I believe everybody is free to jeopardize his own health as he likes. But my health is another thing entirely.
Think about being on the receiving end of such an idiot, then imagine how you'd react (provided you're still alive).
I've been there, done that and got the f..ing t-shirt. It's not nice, believe me, even when you were sensible enough to compensate for the dork's own idiocy and nobody gets really hurt.
:eek:

I don't want to preach to anybody. I'm not in a position to do so. Just want to point out that's not just a matter of one's own safety: there's other people's health at stake, too.

I used to ride crotch rockets. I was never into doing wheelies on the freeway and pushing my luck. Thats a machismo thing. Something for the guys

PS: I ride with friends who own a Ducati Desmo2, a Yamaha R1, a Suzuki GSXR 750, and a HD Sportster XL 1200. So have nothing against crotch rockets. I call them crotch rockets, because it's funny and call my bike an agricultural implement for the same reason.
Judge not.
Ride safe. ;)

I love anyone that rides a motorcycle be it a HD or a sportbike and im pretty envious of the tricks those guys do on the sportbikes and i think its great but i also feel racetracks were built for a reason..If im scootin down the road and a group of sportbikers come up on me doin 90 mph on one wheel i say a prayer...

I don't really care how or what anyone else rides........better things to worry about I guess..