Power Commander vs. Download for Stage 1

KumaRide · #1 07-15-2008, 06:52 PM

I have an 06 Fatboy with V&amp\\;H Big Shot Staggered and K&amp\\;N Air filter with dealership Stage 1 download. If I install a Power Commander to the bike, will I notice a performance improvement as compared to the dealership download? Will it be an obvious improvement or subtle?

If a PC is added, do I need to reset the mapping to the factory default? And, can I do this myself or do I have to pay the dealership to do it?

tk353 · #2 07-15-2008, 11:04 PM

you can have them load the default map if you are going with a canned map on the PCIII. I would pay for a dyno-tune and them you dont need to have the old map on the ECM. if you have the money get a&nbsp\\;Thundermax with autotune and add the 02 sensors that come with the kit and you never have to pay for dyno and the bike is always tuned.

Aces N Eights · #3 07-16-2008, 12:10 AM

Got Stage 1, SE A/C, V&amp\\;H Big Radius,&nbsp\\;PCIII and a specially designed "Wizard" map just for my riding style. Bottom line, Yes, you will notice a definite improvement but, you have to have it tuned via Dyno. Canned maps suck. Many options for getting "special" maps out there: SERT, Daytona Twin Scan, ect.

silvrbill · #4 07-16-2008, 02:35 AM

Power Commander with auto tune?

tk353 · #5 07-16-2008, 02:57 AM

oops my bad. Thundermax with autotune

silvrbill · #6 07-16-2008, 03:20 AM

Just thought I missed something about the pcs.

WV Rocker · #7 07-16-2008, 07:23 AM

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ORIGINAL: Aces N Eights
Canned maps suck.

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Not necessarily. Just put V&amp\\;H big radius and PCIII on my Rocker this past weekend, and loaded the canned map for softails with this setup off of powercommander.com
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The bike is actually tuned better than my friends from the harley shop, and hasn't backfired yet.

KumaRide · #8 07-18-2008, 09:05 PM

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ORIGINAL: Aces N Eights

Got Stage 1, SE A/C, V&amp\\;\\\\\\;H Big Radius,&nbsp\\;\\\\\\;PCIII and a specially designed "Wizard" map just for my riding style. Bottom line, Yes, you will notice a definite improvement but, you have to have it tuned via Dyno. Canned maps suck. Many options for getting "special" maps out there: SERT, Daytona Twin Scan, ect.

I will not notice better performance with just adding a PC? I have to have it Dyno'd also?

Spoke with the folks at PC and they have maps for my pipes, AC and the dealership download.&nbsp\\; From what you said though, Im wasting money just add ing the PC?

blkfalc4 · #9 07-18-2008, 09:16 PM

No you don't need to reset dealer map,,, dynojet should have a map for HD dl along with your stage 1. But IMO your wasting your dough unless you want to finetune the system or plan on changing your setup

Spike_96 · #10 07-18-2008, 09:16 PM

Whichever system U choose to go with, a dyno tune is the best way to dial it in. No canned map can outperform a proper tune.&nbsp\\;I can't overstate "proper tune"&nbsp\\;