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Stock seat mod - 9/10/2006 3:03:16 PM   
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I've been upolstering for 20 years now and over the past two years have been modding stock seats to ride as good if not better than most after market seats out there. The big misconception is more foam is better or gel pads are better...That is BS. It's not how much foam or if you have a gel pad but its the shape of the seat itself. I've done Street Glides, Road Kings, Sportsters, Dyna's and countless metrics. By far the HD seats are the best seats stock and better made than the others. The only thing is they take a little more time to mod so the mod cost is a little more but still well below buying a after market seat. I can lower you, move you back or a combination of both. Here is a picture of my modded stock SG seat that I lowered my riding height 3 1/2"s and moved me back 1". You can PM me for more details and specific seat mod your interested in.  Please visit my website http://www.meancitycycles.com and you can always email me at allen@meancitycycles.com 



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RE: Stock seat mod - 9/21/2006 1:20:01 PM   
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Sounds perfect...what are your prices for mod that you describe?

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RE: Stock seat mod - 9/21/2006 2:04:02 PM   
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If you go to his website he lists the prices. For a custom mod it is $40 plus shipping which he estimates to be between $15-25. I just got a PM from him and am going to get this done when I get a weekend where I know the bike isn't going anywhere.
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RE: Stock seat mod - 9/21/2006 2:32:24 PM   
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What's the address for the website?

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RE: Stock seat mod - 9/21/2006 4:25:30 PM   
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What's the address for the website?

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RE: Stock seat mod - 9/21/2006 8:53:37 PM   
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I don't have many pictures of the HD seats modded on the website right now. If you guys have any questions please feel free to ask away.

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RE: Stock seat mod - 9/21/2006 9:02:35 PM   
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I sent you a pm, and by the way great looking bikes.

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RE: Stock seat mod - 9/21/2006 9:30:39 PM   
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I sent you a pm, and by the way great looking bikes.



Thanks, I need to get some pics of them together. The Heritage is the wifeys bike but I ride it when I can also

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RE: Stock seat mod - 9/21/2006 11:49:29 PM   
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oK I have a new 07 electraglide standard I am 6'5'' I want to sit back and sit pretty low but i'd like to retain as much for the passenger also , that would be the wifey
but if it means giving up some space to move back an sit low..so be it !!!

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RE: Stock seat mod - 9/22/2006 9:49:34 PM   
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I had my 05 dyna seat done by bad x it really made my seat feel better it really helps on those long rides



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RE: Stock seat mod - 9/22/2006 11:16:38 PM   
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what can you do for comfort on a FLHTCUI seat? the foam feels to "soft" for me at least thats what I think. currently have the stock seat off and a FLHX seat on, the foam on it feels much firmer and makes me think the problem with my stock seat was I was sinking all the way down and after 100 miles or so the seat pan was what was causing discomfert... sound right to you? Plan on leaving the FLHX seat on unless I put the tourpack back on for out of town travel then I will be wanting he originall seat cause girlfriend things the FLHX seat would be to narrow for long trips. Would replacing the stock foam in my stock FLHTCUI seat with firmer foam make it more comfy for long rides without spending as much money as a aftermarket seat costs? I dont have any issue with "where" the seat puts me, dont need moved back... if anything moved forward a little maybe, which seams wierd to me cause I'm 6'1" but it feels like I am always having to reach to far for the bars... so much so I have considered putting some bars with a couple more inches pull back on.

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RE: Stock seat mod - 9/24/2006 12:05:50 AM   
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what can you do for comfort on a FLHTCUI seat? the foam feels to "soft" for me at least thats what I think. currently have the stock seat off and a FLHX seat on, the foam on it feels much firmer and makes me think the problem with my stock seat was I was sinking all the way down and after 100 miles or so the seat pan was what was causing discomfert... sound right to you? Plan on leaving the FLHX seat on unless I put the tourpack back on for out of town travel then I will be wanting he originall seat cause girlfriend things the FLHX seat would be to narrow for long trips. Would replacing the stock foam in my stock FLHTCUI seat with firmer foam make it more comfy for long rides without spending as much money as a aftermarket seat costs? I dont have any issue with "where" the seat puts me, dont need moved back... if anything moved forward a little maybe, which seams wierd to me cause I'm 6'1" but it feels like I am always having to reach to far for the bars... so much so I have considered putting some bars with a couple more inches pull back on.



I can move you forward a little, as far as the foam being too soft isn't the problem its the actual shape of the sitting area that is causing the pain. Fix the sitting area and you will be a happy camper. I've been preaching this for a long time, its not the amount of foam but the shape of it that makes a good seat.

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RE: Stock seat mod - 9/25/2006 8:31:02 AM   
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Hey BadX.....I got a 06 Heritage Softail like the one your wife has. I am 6' tall and about 285...a big boy. Every since I broke my tailbone in a fall, the stock seat kills my azz and back. My question, if you are familiar with the stock seat on those, would you keep it and rework it, or I can get a hold of a seat set off a 2002 Heritage Classic which seems wider and a little bigger, and have you rework it? Which seat would be better? I like the looks of the Badlander on yours, but dont know if that would work for me..
Lastly, what did you do about the bolts sticking up through the rear fender when you put the badlander on her bike???
Thanks for the help and insight....

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RE: Stock seat mod - 9/25/2006 4:29:33 PM   
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Hey BadX.....I got a 06 Heritage Softail like the one your wife has. I am 6' tall and about 285...a big boy. Every since I broke my tailbone in a fall, the stock seat kills my azz and back. My question, if you are familiar with the stock seat on those, would you keep it and rework it, or I can get a hold of a seat set off a 2002 Heritage Classic which seems wider and a little bigger, and have you rework it? Which seat would be better? I like the looks of the Badlander on yours, but dont know if that would work for me..
Lastly, what did you do about the bolts sticking up through the rear fender when you put the badlander on her bike???
Thanks for the help and insight....



PM me jrudicel, I've still got the stock seat off the Heritage and could possibly mod it to your specs and send it so you wouldn't have any down time then when you get it send me yours.

The bolts are still there on her bike, the badlander covers them I thought they should have came off but they didn't.

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RE: Stock seat mod - 10/3/2006 2:49:48 PM   
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Hello Badx

Got the solo stock seat on my 06 SG replaced with a two-up reach seat, would like to go down another 2-3 inches on the solo stock seat without going back this possible? I'm 5'2 148 lbs, with about a 27 inch inseam I would like to be able to bring in my knees a little tighter in, which is not possible with the stock seat. Anyway to shave off a 1/2' - 1' on either side? Thanks for any info. Ray

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RE: Stock seat mod - 10/3/2006 3:59:07 PM   
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Hello Badx

Got the solo stock seat on my 06 SG replaced with a two-up reach seat, would like to go down another 2-3 inches on the solo stock seat without going back this possible? I'm 5'2 148 lbs, with about a 27 inch inseam I would like to be able to bring in my knees a little tighter in, which is not possible with the stock seat. Anyway to shave off a 1/2' - 1' on either side? Thanks for any info. Ray



Very possible and I know the area well where your talking about bringing your knees in. For some reason all the touring seats are wide where you legs go down but its not a problem for me to fix it. I have never measured what I take off right there but guessing it's probably about a 1/2" total, the foam right there is about 1 1/2"s wide so I could go down a 1/2 easy on each side.

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RE: Stock seat mod - 10/7/2006 6:37:08 PM   
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Got my seat back from you on Thursday.....rocket fast and great job. The seat is very comfortable and you did a first class job!
It actually is more comfortable now with out using the backrest more so than with it!!!



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RE: Stock seat mod - 10/8/2006 4:57:48 PM   
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RK seat that I just modded also.





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RE: Stock seat mod - 10/8/2006 5:02:58 PM   
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Got my seat back from you on Thursday.....rocket fast and great job. The seat is very comfortable and you did a first class job!
It actually is more comfortable now with out using the backrest more so than with it!!!



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Thanks man, I am glad you like it. That second picture of the seat really looks good, when I was doing the mod and sat in the seat it reminded me of a big comfy chair feel to it. Enjoy and be safe.


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RE: Stock seat mod - 10/13/2006 12:15:51 PM   
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BadX I am curious what you did to Jrudicel's 06' Heritage Classic stock seat. I have a 06' Heritage Classic, I am 6'4 245# with a bad back and looking for more comfort. I don't think I want to be any lower but a little further back might help. I need a wide seat to support my legs to reduce the strain on my lower back. Right now my ride to work ranges from 45min to 75min depending on stop and go traffic. Not too bad but my seat feels too hard. Do you have any suggestions on what I should do?


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RE: Stock seat mod - 10/13/2006 12:33:16 PM   
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BadX I am curious what you did to Jrudicel's 06' Heritage Classic stock seat. I have a 06' Heritage Classic, I am 6'4 245# with a bad back and looking for more comfort. I don't think I want to be any lower but a little further back might help. I need a wide seat to support my legs to reduce the strain on my lower back. Right now my ride to work ranges from 45min to 75min depending on stop and go traffic. Not too bad but my seat feels too hard. Do you have any suggestions on what I should do?


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Actually going about a 1/2-1" lower will make the seat wider and doing this will also move you back about the same. I never heard anything from jrudicel so to answer you question...nothing.

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RE: Stock seat mod - 10/13/2006 12:46:18 PM   
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I've been upolstering for 20 years now and over the past two years have been modding stock seats to ride as good if not better than most after market seats out there. The big misconception is more foam is better or gel pads are better...That is BS. It's not how much foam or if you have a gel pad but its the shape of the seat itself. I've done Street Glides, Road Kings, Sportsters, Dyna's and countless metrics. By far the HD seats are the best seats stock and better made than the others. The only thing is they take a little more time to mod so the mod cost is a little more but still well below buying a after market seat. I can lower you, move you back or a combination of both. Here is a picture of my modded stock SG seat that I lowered my riding height 3 1/2"s and moved me back 1". You can PM me for more details and specific seat mod your interested in.



There are a lot of riders on this forum that will probably dis-agree with you about gel pads not being better than a stock Harley seat. My stock Fatboy seat was like sitting on a board until I had a "Pro Pad" (gel) installed and it made a huge improvement. It still gets a little un-comfortable on big rides but sitting in one spot for a long time will do that to you. When the seat was re-done, my upholsterer told me that the worst thing about my stock seat was the design. He said the combination of real leather and the man-made material were working against each other during expansion and contraction. His suggestion was to go to all man-made material because it was softer than leather in all temperatures. If you push your fingers into both materials on a cold day, you can see that he makes sense.

Since I've added new handlebars I'm now sitting a little too far forward and would like to make a change. If it's possible to move me back and re-style the seat to look good with a passenger pillion, I'm interested in talking to you about it. In the mean time, I'll check out your website.

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RE: Stock seat mod - 10/13/2006 8:36:39 PM   
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There are a lot of riders on this forum that will probably dis-agree with you about gel pads not being better than a stock Harley seat. My stock Fatboy seat was like sitting on a board until I had a "Pro Pad" (gel) installed and it made a huge improvement. It still gets a little un-comfortable on big rides but sitting in one spot for a long time will do that to you. When the seat was re-done, my upholsterer told me that the worst thing about my stock seat was the design. He said the combination of real leather and the man-made material were working against each other during expansion and contraction. His suggestion was to go to all man-made material because it was softer than leather in all temperatures. If you push your fingers into both materials on a cold day, you can see that he makes sense.

Since I've added new handlebars I'm now sitting a little too far forward and would like to make a change. If it's possible to move me back and re-style the seat to look good with a passenger pillion, I'm interested in talking to you about it. In the mean time, I'll check out your website.




I am not going to debate the gel pad deal. I agree with your upholsterer, the worst thing about the stock seats are the design. Harley seats aren't as bad as Metric seats but they all have a similar sitting area shape that hurts most people after not riding for too long. But I disagree about the using real leather. The only seats I've seen with real leather from Harley is older police bikes, everything else is all man made from the plastic seat pan all the way to the vinyl cover.

To answer you question, it is very possible to move you back.

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RE: Stock seat mod - 10/14/2006 3:39:09 AM   
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Up through the middle of the Fatboy seat (and others), there's a strip of material that's a lot stiffer than the outer edges. My upholstry guy said it was leather before the seat was taken apart so maybe he was wrong ? I looked at a street Glide the other day and its seat has an even bigger area of "leather" down the middle. I'm just trying to make people aware of what I've learned - that the fancy part of the seat is probably doing more harm than good.

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RE: Stock seat mod - 10/14/2006 6:36:03 AM   
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Up through the middle of the Fatboy seat (and others), there's a strip of material that's a lot stiffer than the outer edges. My upholstry guy said it was leather before the seat was taken apart so maybe he was wrong ? I looked at a street Glide the other day and its seat has an even bigger area of "leather" down the middle. I'm just trying to make people aware of what I've learned - that the fancy part of the seat is probably doing more harm than good.



Thats just perferated vinyl that is thicker than the rest of it is all, its not leather. I've done several of these seats and own a SG so I am sure of what the cover is made of.

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RE: Stock seat mod - 10/14/2006 8:47:29 PM   
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BadX I am curious what you did to Jrudicel's 06' Heritage Classic stock seat. I have a 06' Heritage Classic, I am 6'4 245# with a bad back and looking for more comfort. I don't think I want to be any lower but a little further back might help. I need a wide seat to support my legs to reduce the strain on my lower back. Right now my ride to work ranges from 45min to 75min depending on stop and go traffic. Not too bad but my seat feels too hard. Do you have any suggestions on what I should do?


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Guys...and BadX... I had to stock Heritage 2006... I had inquired about modding the seat, then started thinking about a completely different bike and honestly, forgot all about PMing BadX!! Sorry dude. As far as the Heritages seat, mine was a base model 2006 Heritage, and not the classic. the seats are totally different with the classics being alot wider than mine was.
Now, on a different note, I was able to dump the 06 Heritage and took it in the a$$...lol...but now have a new 06 StreetGlide. Havent got to ride it but a time or two yet, so dont know how it will be on the long haul compared to the Heritage I had, but it seems so far a difference between night and day towards the good side. I absolutely love this SG and it seems to fit me so much better being the 300 lb big guy I am.
So, while we are at it, BadX, and since you have both bikes I have and had, any suggestions on the SG's seats? What improvements do you think the stock SG seats need? Like I said, I cant say now, but in a week or two after a few good rides, i can make a better accessment...just thinking ahead to some winter mods and you are still on my list!


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RE: Stock seat mod - 10/14/2006 10:04:29 PM   
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Is there any way to fix the passenger part on the streetglide stock seat ? my gal can't hardly walk after a few hours on the bike.

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RE: Stock seat mod - 10/15/2006 2:05:25 PM   
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Is there any way to fix the passenger part on the streetglide stock seat ? my gal can't hardly walk after a few hours on the bike.


I am in the final stages of a passenger seat mod that will rivel any after market seat out there. I don't want to go into much detail right now but it should be available in two weeks. I'll post pictures of the process once and final product once I have it all worked out.

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Guys...and BadX... I had to stock Heritage 2006... I had inquired about modding the seat, then started thinking about a completely different bike and honestly, forgot all about PMing BadX!! Sorry dude. As far as the Heritages seat, mine was a base model 2006 Heritage, and not the classic. the seats are totally different with the classics being alot wider than mine was.
Now, on a different note, I was able to dump the 06 Heritage and took it in the a$$...lol...but now have a new 06 StreetGlide. Havent got to ride it but a time or two yet, so dont know how it will be on the long haul compared to the Heritage I had, but it seems so far a difference between night and day towards the good side. I absolutely love this SG and it seems to fit me so much better being the 300 lb big guy I am.
So, while we are at it, BadX, and since you have both bikes I have and had, any suggestions on the SG's seats? What improvements do you think the stock SG seats need? Like I said, I cant say now, but in a week or two after a few good rides, i can make a better accessment...just thinking ahead to some winter mods and you are still on my list!



I personally thought the SG seat sat very well stock but I hated the fact that my head was sticking so high up above the windshield and got terrible buffeting. So the first think I did was lower me on my and reshaped it to give better lower support. I am also working on another mod for the stock SG seat that will super slam you on the bike. I am 5'11" and with this mod I am looking about an inch over the windshield and it sits great.

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RE: Stock seat mod - 10/15/2006 2:23:44 PM   
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Is there any way to fix the passenger part on the streetglide stock seat ? my gal can't hardly walk after a few hours on the bike.


I am in the final stages of a passenger seat mod that will rivel any after market seat out there. I don't want to go into much detail right now but it should be available in two weeks. I'll post pictures of the process once and final product once I have it all worked out.

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Guys...and BadX... I had to stock Heritage 2006... I had inquired about modding the seat, then started thinking about a completely different bike and honestly, forgot all about PMing BadX!! Sorry dude. As far as the Heritages seat, mine was a base model 2006 Heritage, and not the classic. the seats are totally different with the classics being alot wider than mine was.
Now, on a different note, I was able to dump the 06 Heritage and took it in the a$$...lol...but now have a new 06 StreetGlide. Havent got to ride it but a time or two yet, so dont know how it will be on the long