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Old Feb 10, 2016 | 07:28 AM
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I guess some people don't know the difference from a dead battery,no juice at all,and a low battery.Dead means dead.
 
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Old Feb 10, 2016 | 07:34 AM
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Originally Posted by GTK
I guess some people don't know the difference from a dead battery,no juice at all,and a low battery.Dead means dead.
So...since you gave three options, is a Dead battery = no juice at all?

For me...
Dead battery typically just means, "won't turn over motor" to me...
"Dead as a Door Nail" means there is no charge at all.

Kinda like the difference between "Crazy", and "Crazy as a **** house rat".
Not really worth arguing about in either case as both are bad always.
 
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Old Feb 10, 2016 | 09:25 AM
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Not sure about all bikes.....if the battery has enough to run the fuel pump and ECM, when you do try to push start it, as said use second or even third gear. If you use first....you usually leave a nice long black mark from the tire. Don't ask me how I know.
 
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Old Feb 10, 2016 | 08:32 PM
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Originally Posted by Beak
Not sure about all bikes.....if the battery has enough to run the fuel pump and ECM, when you do try to push start it, as said use second or even third gear. If you use first....you usually leave a nice long black mark from the tire. Don't ask me how I know.
That's some funny stuff right there. By the way...did the same thing w/ my Sporty! LMAO!
 
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Old Feb 10, 2016 | 10:14 PM
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Just remember that an alternator is not designed to charge a weak or dead battery. Put the battery on a charger as soon as possible to avoid damage to the charging system.
 
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Old Feb 11, 2016 | 05:05 AM
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Originally Posted by lp
Dead battery typically just means, "won't turn over motor" to me...
"Dead as a Kinda like the difference between "Crazy", and "Crazy as a **** house rat".
Not really worth arguing about in either case as both are bad always.
I get two lousy cups of coffee a day. You made spit half of one on my computer

As a side note, I've always said; "Harley's new FOB security system has been putting owners afoot since 2007"
 
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Old Feb 11, 2016 | 12:37 PM
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Originally Posted by Nomadmax
As a side note, I've always said; "Harley's new FOB security system has been putting owners afoot since 2007"
I've had the FOB since 2007... never an issue.

While I find humor in your sentiment, I think it is the owners themselves that do it... not the bike.

Of course... I keep mine on a tender, and keep a spare fob battery on the bike, it's 2 dollar insurance.

 
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Old Feb 11, 2016 | 01:50 PM
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So if I hear the fuel pump fire up, it will have enough juice to push start?
I didn't want my buddy pushing the bike only to find out its a no go, and then have to push back up driveway. And no way I can push and jump on myself. Can barely move the damn thing around the way it is sitting on on it. I'd leave black marks, followed by paint and metal scrapes on the pavement. Going to grab one of those small jump packs. Hit up every WM in the area with no luck for those clearanced models.

Thanks for the responses
 
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Old Feb 11, 2016 | 06:49 PM
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Originally Posted by SafetyMan
I've had the FOB since 2007... never an issue.

While I find humor in your sentiment, I think it is the owners themselves that do it... not the bike.

Of course... I keep mine on a tender, and keep a spare fob battery on the bike, it's 2 dollar insurance.

You are absolutely right about the human element
 
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Old Feb 12, 2016 | 03:52 AM
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Originally Posted by us1fountain
So if I hear the fuel pump fire up, it will have enough juice to push start?
Yes but it may not continue to run without blipping the throttle. The increased RPM creates more voltage from the stator. Depending on the the state of the battery, when the voltage produced by the stator drops the bike won't run.

A few posts up somebody hit the nail on the head. Use a mutlimeter and find out what the battery voltage is during your attempt to start the bike, ie when you hit the starter button. If the battery fails, that test I'd replace it. Riding with a low battery can burn a stator up. Stators are more expensive and more difficult to get to than batteries.

As an aside, I would jump the bike and check the output of the stator to make sure it was healthy was well.
 
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