(On the fence) Stage 2 Torque kit for 2018 slim
#11
Good information here! I've been trying to decide between the Torque Cam and the HP cam. From looking at the charts in the catalog, which are labeled incorrectly, the HP cam still provides a bit more torque after about 3500 RPM over the stock cam and keeps pulling on through the higher RPM's. I hate the fact that my bike starts off super strong and then dies off at around 3500 RPM.
Hearing the real world experiences with the torque cam helps give a better Idea of what to expect. Still leaning towards the HP cam but want to hear from others that have experience with that cam before I make up my mind.
* Edit: After reviewing the updated charts online, the overall HP difference between the two cams seems pretty minimal but the difference in Torque seems pretty significant. May just have to go with the Torque Cam after all considering I would hardly ever take it over 5500 RPM. Wouldn't have much reason to when it would get up to speed so quickly with that low end grunt with the Torque cam. Now to decide and take the plunge....
Hearing the real world experiences with the torque cam helps give a better Idea of what to expect. Still leaning towards the HP cam but want to hear from others that have experience with that cam before I make up my mind.
* Edit: After reviewing the updated charts online, the overall HP difference between the two cams seems pretty minimal but the difference in Torque seems pretty significant. May just have to go with the Torque Cam after all considering I would hardly ever take it over 5500 RPM. Wouldn't have much reason to when it would get up to speed so quickly with that low end grunt with the Torque cam. Now to decide and take the plunge....
Last edited by Bowhunter8607; 11-05-2018 at 01:31 PM.
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LIMike (11-05-2018)
#14
Thank you guys for all the info and help on this. I really do appreciate it! I’m definitely sold on the cam, I just need to decide if I’m going to do stage 3 or not. I’m going to talk to my local HD dealer tomorrow to get some numbers. I’ll be sure to keep you guys posted. I do want to stay with Screamin eagle for warranty purposes. A friend of mine told me that since I went with V&H pipes that it voided my warranty? I have never heard that! Is there any truth to that? I had mine installed from the dealer before I took delivery on the bike. I’m guessing that wouldn’t be true?
Thanks again guys!!
Thanks again guys!!
#16
You’re going to get a lot of answers regarding the warranty. The fine print of the warranty is not friendly to your pipes. In reality though I’ve heard that the tuner is a much bigger sticking issue. Since you have an SE tuner you are in better shape. Considering your dealer did the pipe, they “should” stand by you if a warranty issue comes up. If you trust your dealer that’s pretty good. This answer seems to be different for everyone. Others will point out “what about warranty work on the road? Just cause you trust your dealer doesn’t mean they’ll be servicing.” It’s a shame there aren’t perfect answers besides “stick with SE parts” but many have ventured to 3rd party pipes and not had their warranty voided according to posts here. Using SE cam, Tuner and AC I think you’re in decent shape. No way your less restrictive pipes will genuinely cause harm to the motor, so if it breaks there will likely be a reason that can be pointed to. HD has full authority to void us for any reason they want, especially for crossing EPA rules, but mostly I’ve heard reasonable responses to warranty claims. Best of luck.
Last edited by Thingfish; 11-05-2018 at 09:40 PM.
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LIMike (11-06-2018)
#17
Thank you guys for all the info and help on this. I really do appreciate it! I’m definitely sold on the cam, I just need to decide if I’m going to do stage 3 or not. I’m going to talk to my local HD dealer tomorrow to get some numbers. I’ll be sure to keep you guys posted. I do want to stay with Screamin eagle for warranty purposes. A friend of mine told me that since I went with V&H pipes that it voided my warranty? I have never heard that! Is there any truth to that? I had mine installed from the dealer before I took delivery on the bike. I’m guessing that wouldn’t be true?
Thanks again guys!!
Thanks again guys!!
Last edited by Bowhunter8607; 11-05-2018 at 10:50 PM.
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LIMike (11-06-2018)
#18
As Thingfish stated you'll get many answers on the warranty and aftermarket parts. The dealer here has never voided my warranty for non-HD Tuners or Pipes on my bikes. I ran a ThunderMax tuner on my 48, and a Power Vision on my Roadster and it will be used on my Fat Bob once I buy another tuning license for it. Also had aftermarket pipes and had warranty work done with no hesitation or mention of warranty being voided due to these parts, all installed myself. The dealer recommended the Power Vision tuner. So I guess it depends on the dealer and if they like to stick it to their customers or stand by them and do what's right. My dealer has been super trustworthy with this for me and many other customers I've spoke to so they will continue to get my business. They've earned it many times over.
#19
You’re going to get a lot of answers regarding the warranty. The fine print of the warranty is not friendly to your pipes. In reality though I’ve heard that the tuner is a much bigger sticking issue. Since you have an SE tuner you are in better shape. Considering your dealer did the pipe, they “should” stand by you if a warranty issue comes up. If you trust your dealer that’s pretty good. This answer seems to be different for everyone. Others will point out “what about warranty work on the road? Just cause you trust your dealer doesn’t mean they’ll be servicing.” It’s a shame there aren’t perfect answers besides “stick with SE parts” but many have ventured to 3rd party pipes and not had their warranty voided according to posts here. Using SE cam, Tuner and AC I think you’re in decent shape. No way your less restrictive pipes will genuinely cause harm to the motor, so if it breaks there will likely be a reason that can be pointed to. HD has full authority to void us for any reason they want, especially for crossing EPA rules, but mostly I’ve heard reasonable responses to warranty claims. Best of luck.
Thanks again Tingfish!!
Last edited by LIMike; 11-06-2018 at 05:56 AM.
#20
Nice to hear about dealers that take care of their customers. They are definitely out there. Mine hasn’t let me down in 16 years. I remember years back I went in looking at bikes. My sales guy asked “didn’t your first kid just start college? Go home and sleep on it for a week...if you stil want the bike come back.” I did, and I did...all good. Good people are around.
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