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LIMike 11-04-2018 05:04 AM

(On the fence) Stage 2 Torque kit for 2018 slim
 
Hey guys, I have recently added stage 1 V&H big radius 2 into 2 exhaust and the heavy breather performance air cleaner with the smart tune pro. I did notice a big difference in power and Iím very happy with it!! But with a little money in my pocket and cold weather coming I have been on the fence about adding the stage 2 Torque kit. The stage 4 doesnít seem to be for me. I really donít hang in the higher RPMís and do more local riding rather then open highway. My question is there a big difference with the stage 2 cam? I know more Torque and power is always a good reason. I just figured I would ask you guys on your experience with it.
ĎThank you in advance

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Vrizzo 11-04-2018 06:43 AM

I’m planning on that kit this winter as well. I agree the other stages for my riding type isn’t needed but that kit would be used in the ranges I’m mostly at

splattttttt 11-04-2018 07:00 AM

I don’t know about how the MoCo reconfigured the final drive. But on my 2014 Slim, I replaced both sprockets for a huge increase in my lower end side with out ever going into my cam chest

LIMike 11-04-2018 01:28 PM

Yeah, Iím most likely going to go ahead with the stage 2 kit. Probably wait another month or so when it gets a little colder. I would hate to miss the last of the 60įriding weather!
Beautiful day today!! Got up early and got some riding time in before the family woke up and had other plans for me lol

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Vrizzo 11-04-2018 01:38 PM

I just had mine serviced and should have done it. Had foot surgery so my season is over already

LIMike 11-04-2018 06:01 PM


Originally Posted by Vrizzo (Post 17803934)
I just had mine serviced and should have done it. Had foot surgery so my season is over already

Iím sorry to hear about your foot surgery. I also just had my 1000mile service. If I was going to do the stage 2, I would have had to leave it for a couple more days. With the nice weather I really didnít want to loose anymore riding time. I figured when it gets cold it wonít be so bad lol

Thingfish 11-04-2018 09:22 PM

I did it to my 114 Heritage and I felt a big difference, but I made the jump from stock so it probably seemed more dramatic to me. I'm loving it though and have no regrets. Like you, I'm not a stage 4 guy, but stage 3 might be interesting. That said, I never feel I wish I'd done the stage 3....stage 2 hits my sweet spot. Not an overly expensive mod either.

AKDrifter 11-05-2018 03:38 AM


Originally Posted by Thingfish (Post 17804938)
stage 2 hits my sweet spot. Not an overly expensive mod either.

If you don't mind me asking how much did it cost to get it done? I know the kit is $400 on the Harley website but I don't know how many hours they charge to install. I want to go stage 2 but I have to weigh the expense against what other mods I could do for the same money. Helps when you know what the total cost was.

LIMike 11-05-2018 04:41 AM


Originally Posted by Thingfish (Post 17804938)
I did it to my 114 Heritage and I felt a big difference, but I made the jump from stock so it probably seemed more dramatic to me. I'm loving it though and have no regrets. Like you, I'm not a stage 4 guy, but stage 3 might be interesting. That said, I never feel I wish I'd done the stage 3....stage 2 hits my sweet spot. Not an overly expensive mod either.

Thank you for the feedback, I really appreciate it!! Yes, I was thinking the same thing (Not an overly expensive mod) and probably a good bang for the buck then. The stage 3 does look interesting! My first intentions was to talk to my local HD about a stage 4 with a different cam. The more I thought about it the more I started to pull back. But the 3 might be a good option. Thanks again

Thingfish 11-05-2018 10:22 AM

Stock to stage 2 was about $2,100 including tax. That included SE Street Canons, SE Street Tuner, and the cam plus install. The 114 has a stock high flow ac so I did not need that.

LIMike, since you have everything but the cam Iíd say youíre looking at about 5 hours labor by the shop clock since theyíd have to pull the exhaust off most likely. The kit comes with adjustable push rods which are a huge time saver. All in Iíd guess it would run around $1,000 at a dealer, maybe $800+ at an Indy you trust. In my case the dealer was the way forward.

I hadnít done a cam on a new motor before, only on a rebuild, so I was surprised how much better it got within the first 500 miles. Unlike a stage one that is 100% go from the first start up, the cam needs to wear together more so some break in measures are recommended. Youíll notice a bump, but it really gets stronger by the end of that first week. Initially it felt like it was starting to taper off around 3,800rpms, after 500 miles it was strong to 4,800.


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