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Old Oct 27, 2015 | 05:42 AM
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So I recently joined a bagger stereo group on Facebook. I see them using some components that are never discussed here, and almost never hear of Biketronics in the group. What's the deal with horns? Does anyone run a set? Here's an example: http://www.ddaudio.com/products/mobi...tweeters/vo-b3
 
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This is why I like to belong to a lot of groups/forums! I've been part of the bagger stereo page for a while now & so far it's resulted in me running Diamond amps & hertz speakers! I've got some mid drivers & horns/tweeters on there way, hoping to install this weekend!
 
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Originally Posted by just plain john
So I recently joined a bagger stereo group on Facebook. I see them using some components that are never discussed here, and almost never hear of Biketronics in the group. What's the deal with horns? Does anyone run a set? Here's an example: http://www.ddaudio.com/products/mobi...tweeters/vo-b3

HAZE is the go to on the horns. I know he's testing out several sets on his new bike as we speak. He's even got my attention. They are basically super tweets. I've always been a fan of silk soft dome tweets because they sound better to my ears. But these SPL guys are using these "Horns" with great success on the competition circuit. I don't compete but I do find the horns interesting. We'll see what Haze ends up with. He's on it like a bulldog on a porkchop!! LOL!
 
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Old Oct 27, 2015 | 09:09 AM
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Cool.....Good info.
 
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Old Oct 27, 2015 | 12:07 PM
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haze how about some input manly thinking mounting location options on batwing bikes, and great just when I thought I was done always did like tweeters when I was much younger
 
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So I recently joined a bagger stereo group on Facebook. I see them using some components that are never discussed here, and almost never hear of Biketronics in the group. What's the deal with horns? Does anyone run a set? Here's an example: http://www.ddaudio.com/products/mobi...tweeters/vo-b3
I too belong to the Harley Bagger Audio page you are referring to. I'm running all Hertz SPL Show series on my SG or the term thats used more often, Pro Audio. I have 2 sets of horns (ST 25 and ST 35) 4-- 8" and 6.5" powered by 2 Diamond Micro 4v2 amps. Put it to you this way, my system overpowers my exhaust and believe me my exhaust is loud.

You won't find a lot of the components you see on that page discussed here for 2 reasons. First and biggest reason is cost. You have to pay to play. Second is functionality. Not everyone is a audio guru and Biketronics allows for those that are not be able to pretty much plug and play. Most of what you see being discussed there will not hold up well in the elements. Great for competitions and will most definitely blow away most everything discussed here. Biketronics is a very good and reputable company so that is why you see it discussed here more so because of functionality and ability to withstand the elements. Plus it will get you what you need from a sound perspective.

Here is the sounds from my bike
https://www.hdforums.com/forum/audio...cro-4v2-s.html
 

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Old Oct 28, 2015 | 11:40 AM
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haze how about some input manly thinking mounting location options on batwing bikes, and great just when I thought I was done always did like tweeters when I was much younger
You have three options when mounting horns

You can use 2 gauge holes. I took out my oil temp gauge and air temp gauge and mounted the ST 35's

On the 14 and later models batwings I've seen them mounted on the ends (outer edge) of the inner fairing

The last place is the inner wall of the saddlebags where I have my ST 25's.
 
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it's a different bike culture that's on those pages. Lots of tricked out baggers.....hell on this forum how many guys have a set of 6X9's or 8's inside their bags? How many have two per bag!? How many folks have a second amp in their bags? Not many.

Here's the thing with Pro Audio and Horns vs. lets say Biketronics, JL Audio, Arc speakers, etc. One gets REALLY loud, the other has better sound quality. In audio competitions allot are judged with an SPL meter not "best sound" as that's subjective. I'd compare the two to being at a concert vs listening to Bose surround sound. Sometimes really loud is cool and can be heard better at hwy speeds. Like my bud said the other day, a 30 inch front wheel and much of this audio stuff is to impress some dude in a parking lot! I've yet to hear a girls say "im gonna blow him because his radio is so damn loud". Funny, but true.

BT I think is great, but lots of folks don't see their speakers and say ooooouuu Hybrid Audio. Most don't have a clue what brand that is. So it gets lumped with Hog Tunes, Hawg Wired and every other crappy bike stuff. They're also not a big outfit that travels to all the main bike shows and puts on displays.

The thing with Horns is that the wrong ones will sound too bright. For the most part they are 100+ db sensitive. So it doesn't take a lots of power to get them going. Now combine with your typical driver that's 95db lets say, the horn is gonna get louder faster and sound bright as hell in your face. So you either have to keep your gains as high as your horns will allow, but this usually means keeping them lower than your drivers could go...or giving horns their own channel. Lots of ways to skin this, but the trick is to get it loud and sound good. Sound good being subjective.
 
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Originally Posted by haze324
it's a different bike culture that's on those pages. Lots of tricked out baggers.....hell on this forum how many guys have a set of 6X9's or 8's inside their bags? How many have two per bag!? How many folks have a second amp in their bags? Not many.

Here's the thing with Pro Audio and Horns vs. lets say Biketronics, JL Audio, Arc speakers, etc. One gets REALLY loud, the other has better sound quality. In audio competitions allot are judged with an SPL meter not "best sound" as that's subjective. I'd compare the two to being at a concert vs listening to Bose surround sound. Sometimes really loud is cool and can be heard better at hwy speeds. Like my bud said the other day, a 30 inch front wheel and much of this audio stuff is to impress some dude in a parking lot! I've yet to hear a girls say "im gonna blow him because his radio is so damn loud". Funny, but true.

BT I think is great, but lots of folks don't see their speakers and say ooooouuu Hybrid Audio. Most don't have a clue what brand that is. So it gets lumped with Hog Tunes, Hawg Wired and every other crappy bike stuff. They're also not a big outfit that travels to all the main bike shows and puts on displays.

The thing with Horns is that the wrong ones will sound too bright. For the most part they are 100+ db sensitive. So it doesn't take a lots of power to get them going. Now combine with your typical driver that's 95db lets say, the horn is gonna get louder faster and sound bright as hell in your face. So you either have to keep your gains as high as your horns will allow, but this usually means keeping them lower than your drivers could go...or giving horns their own channel. Lots of ways to skin this, but the trick is to get it loud and sound good. Sound good being subjective.
Agreed!
You started to move into the tuning arena. If the amp(s) are not tune correctly doesn't make a difference what you running it, it will sound like crap. We've had this conversation before. Tuning is a art form and very few people have it mastered.
 
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