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Jim NT 05-11-2016 09:26 PM

Speaker lids
 
Looking to add 6x9's so need advice on a good set of speaker
lids for my 15 SGS.

yank721 05-12-2016 08:32 PM

You looking for 6.5 or 6x9's?

I went with the hogtunes lids with hertz Mille mpx 690's. I should have them Saturday I'll let you know how they sound.

What other audio do you currently have?

Jim NT 05-12-2016 09:09 PM

I'm looking to instal 6x9's. I have a Arc 600.4 and Mille 6.5 upfront now.

09baggerdude 05-12-2016 09:17 PM


Originally Posted by yank721 (Post 15139839)
You looking for 6.5 or 6x9's?

I went with the hogtunes lids with hertz Mille mpx 690's. I should have them Saturday I'll let you know how they sound.

What other audio do you currently have?

Curious to know how much difference there is between the Mille 690's and the hcx 690s...

Bunker 05-13-2016 06:44 AM

I went the opposite route, spent all my money on the lids and cheaped out on the speakers :p

I went with the Bad Dad Competition lids, my only regret is I didn't spring the extra for the LED version :p

I have some used Pioneer 6x9's atm, will probably upgrade later though ;)

09baggerdude 05-13-2016 06:56 AM


Originally Posted by Bunker (Post 15140810)
I went the opposite route, spent all my money on the lids and cheaped out on the speakers :p

I went with the Bad Dad Competition lids, my only regret is I didn't spring the extra for the LED version :p

I have some used Pioneer 6x9's atm, will probably upgrade later though ;)

Mine showed up yesterday...sprung for the leds. Can't wait to get em painted!

Robjr 05-13-2016 11:00 AM

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Baddad lids and J&M Rokkers 5x7's, not the best speakers. I will upgrade sometime soon.
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SunDevil01 05-13-2016 11:47 AM

I went with Hogtunes from factory match. Lids look great, paint was perfect, but the lid seal is a royal pain and makes closing the bags a pain.

If you go the Hogtunes route for a 14+, get the speakers as well, to use the tweeter mounting bridge to close the gap. I tossed the HT speakers afterward...

Jim NT 05-13-2016 11:52 AM


Originally Posted by SunDevil01 (Post 15141895)
I went with Hogtunes from factory match. Lids look great, paint was perfect, but the lid seal is a royal pain and makes closing the bags a pain.

If you go the Hogtunes route for a 14+, get the speakers as well, to use the tweeter mounting bridge to close the gap. I tossed the HT speakers afterward...

I was leaning towards the Hogtunes lids and adding Hertz 6x9's , but
now I'm concerned with the seal being an issue.

Robjr 05-13-2016 01:02 PM

The only problem with the seal is in the beginning when new. Once it's been compressed it's not bad.

Tailwind 05-13-2016 10:33 PM


Originally Posted by Robjr
The only problem with the seal is in the beginning when new. Once it's been compressed it's not bad.

Amen bro! It's been a while since I installed my HT lids and now I'm wishing I had the tight seal I had right after I installed them. Be patient guys, that pain in the arse tight seal u speak of is your friend.

T.

Max-T 05-13-2016 10:43 PM

Hi
what is a good 6x9 speaker that will fit in the 2014 and up HT lids?

yank721 05-24-2016 09:07 PM


Originally Posted by 09baggerdude (Post 15140012)
Curious to know how much difference there is between the Mille 690's and the hcx 690s...

Ok got my hertz all set up in the bags and love them. The pound hard, just gotta figure out how to quite the latches now (they rattle).

How do you like Mille pro 6.5's? Thinking of swapping my bt 7.1 non pros for the Mille pro component set up.

09baggerdude 05-25-2016 12:02 AM


Originally Posted by yank721 (Post 15176995)
Ok got my hertz all set up in the bags and love them. The pound hard, just gotta figure out how to quite the latches now (they rattle).

How do you like Mille pro 6.5's? Thinking of swapping my bt 7.1 non pros for the Mille pro component set up.

I don't know from experience, but have heard, that coaxial speakers are better on the bikes vs. components. Having said that, I'm also running a set of st-25 horns with my hcx 690's. Lol
Slyedog has installed a set of MLKs that are component. Maybe hit him up?

slyedog 05-25-2016 01:33 AM


Originally Posted by yank721 (Post 15176995)
Ok got my hertz all set up in the bags and love them. The pound hard, just gotta figure out how to quite the latches now (they rattle).

How do you like Mille pro 6.5's? Thinking of swapping my bt 7.1 non pros for the Mille pro component set up.

You will get a better midbass and can have much better highs with a component set. There are 2 big factors. Must have the power and I mean clean undistorted power, and a good place for the tweeter. The mille pro is made in 2 versions. A 4 ohm and a 3 ohm. I have not heard them besides a few video's and they do sound good. Can't really quite compare them to my set but know they will sound way better than the coaxial equivalent. Since you have bag speakers, if your not dead set on fairing mounting and amp the hdp4 would be phenomenal with the 3 ohm set up front and those 6x9's. My :icon_twocents:

yank721 05-25-2016 08:18 AM

Yeah I don't wanna lose anymore space then I already have by shoving an amp somewhere other then the fairing. I'm currently running the ss pn4.1000, gann ran a set of the coax off this amp. The tweeters can go in the lower gauge holes, I already have a set of Polk tweeters in there that aren't hooked up cause I don't have the cross over from the set up anymore.

slyedog 05-25-2016 08:39 AM


Originally Posted by yank721 (Post 15178119)
Yeah I don't wanna lose anymore space then I already have by shoving an amp somewhere other then the fairing. I'm currently running the ss pn4.1000, gann ran a set of the coax off this amp. The tweeters can go in the lower gauge holes, I already have a set of Polk tweeters in there that aren't hooked up cause I don't have the cross over from the set up anymore.

That amp will have the power just not the sound quality. That amp has a love hate following. The moto 600 is great but for this case it doesn't increase power beyond 4 ohms. Not sure 150 rms will push those components.

yank721 05-25-2016 08:45 AM


Originally Posted by slyedog (Post 15178179)
That amp will have the power just not the sound quality. That amp has a love hate following. The moto 600 is great but for this case it doesn't increase power beyond 4 ohms. Not sure 150 rms will push those components.

Man now I'm conflicted lol. I heard them in a audio store and they were hooked up to a hertz amp pushing 65 watts and sounded great ( I know not the highway lol) but figured they would scream by more then doubling the power to them

slyedog 05-25-2016 09:09 AM


Originally Posted by yank721 (Post 15178206)
Man now I'm conflicted lol. I heard them in a audio store and they were hooked up to a hertz amp pushing 65 watts and sounded great ( I know not the highway lol) but figured they would scream by more then doubling the power to them

They are 125 rms iirc or in that ballpark. The 150 from the arc may or may not be enough. The downside to no acoustics on the bike is that power is volume outside of efficiency. That's why the pro audio is used frequently as they produce high volume with less power,BUT you sacrifice sound quality. My point is you need to match accordingly. Now I will throw this out there. Arc 600 to a Focal component set and your bag lid speakers is a guarantee win. Just watch the xover sizes. Not trying to steer away from the Hertz components, but here is the big unknown. Is 150watts enough? I think it will be but not going to say it confidently.

bigh8840 06-06-2016 07:05 PM

This may or may not be helpful and to note I haven't done it yet, but will in the next week or two.
I'll be running a BT 4180 and 7.1 pros in the fairing, hcx 165 in the lower fairings, and hcx 690 in the lids. My plan is to run the pros and 690s on the same channels. This allows them to be in similar power without one dragging down the other. Then, obviously the 165 would be on their own separate ch to keep me from not allowing the pros to breath due to the 165 being able to not handle as much.

Tailwind 06-06-2016 07:35 PM


Originally Posted by bigh8840
This may or may not be helpful and to note I haven't done it yet, but will in the next week or two.
I'll be running a BT 4180 and 7.1 pros in the fairing, hcx 165 in the lower fairings, and hcx 690 in the lids. My plan is to run the pros and 690s on the same channels. This allows them to be in similar power without one dragging down the other. Then, obviously the 165 would be on their own separate ch to keep me from not allowing the pros to breath due to the 165 being able to not handle as much.

Man, ur gonna have a couple of power hungry speaker sets hooked up to that BT. U ever consider sticking a bridged micro amp on the amp tray right next to the BT4180 and run the lids off of that?

T

09baggerdude 06-07-2016 12:27 AM


Originally Posted by bigh8840 (Post 15214638)
This may or may not be helpful and to note I haven't done it yet, but will in the next week or two.
I'll be running a BT 4180 and 7.1 pros in the fairing, hcx 165 in the lower fairings, and hcx 690 in the lids. My plan is to run the pros and 690s on the same channels. This allows them to be in similar power without one dragging down the other. Then, obviously the 165 would be on their own separate ch to keep me from not allowing the pros to breath due to the 165 being able to not handle as much.

You won't like that. The pros need juice imho. Have to agree with Tailwind, in that a second amp maybe in order.


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