arc moto 600.4 w/moto 602
#41
03-22-2019, 03:12 PM
I never said i had distortion except when HU was at 78 percent volume. And as we all know one shouldnt exceed 70 percent of head unit volume. Well I just recieved tuning guide for my setup from Arc. This is one of the things in it.
"The Sony radio has a maximum volume limit that is displayed in numbers. You should set gains on the amplifier with the radio at 70% volume and then consider the 70% volume mark to be your new maximum volume for distortion-free listening. (Ex. Let’s say the radio volume can be adjusted up to “45”. Then you can calculate 0.70 x 45 = 31.5 so you would set the volume to 31 or 32 when adjusting your gains and never go past that volume mark when listening to music.) The reason why you should not exceed 70% of total volume is because the output signal above the 70% mark tends to distort. And if you send a distorted signal in to your amplifier it will amplify that distorted signal and pass it on to your speakers.
PLEASE DO NOT GO PAST THE 70% VOLUME MARK. When you are traveling at freeway speeds, with a helmet on and dealing with wind noise and exhaust noise, you WILL NOT be able to hear distortion. So, you might think its OK to go past the 70% volume mark. IT IS NOT OK. The distortion will be there, and it will damage your speakers. Almost every warranty claim we get on MOTO speakers is due to distortion related damage and not power damage. Ride distortion free and you will be good."
I will work on the amp saturday as work and lack of a garage to work in dictate a day off and sunshine making it much easier.
"The Sony radio has a maximum volume limit that is displayed in numbers. You should set gains on the amplifier with the radio at 70% volume and then consider the 70% volume mark to be your new maximum volume for distortion-free listening. (Ex. Let’s say the radio volume can be adjusted up to “45”. Then you can calculate 0.70 x 45 = 31.5 so you would set the volume to 31 or 32 when adjusting your gains and never go past that volume mark when listening to music.) The reason why you should not exceed 70% of total volume is because the output signal above the 70% mark tends to distort. And if you send a distorted signal in to your amplifier it will amplify that distorted signal and pass it on to your speakers.
PLEASE DO NOT GO PAST THE 70% VOLUME MARK. When you are traveling at freeway speeds, with a helmet on and dealing with wind noise and exhaust noise, you WILL NOT be able to hear distortion. So, you might think its OK to go past the 70% volume mark. IT IS NOT OK. The distortion will be there, and it will damage your speakers. Almost every warranty claim we get on MOTO speakers is due to distortion related damage and not power damage. Ride distortion free and you will be good."
I will work on the amp saturday as work and lack of a garage to work in dictate a day off and sunshine making it much easier.
So now do you believe the rest of us?
#42
03-30-2019, 08:44 AM
Thanks to all
I want to thank everybody who took the time to help me on my setup. While I might have seemed a bit unreceptive to some, I tend to question a lot of things I encounter in life it helps in understanding.
In the end I unbridged the amp going from 300 watts to 150 for each speaker. I now feel my speakers should last more than 3 weeks. I do feel like the speakers want more than the 150 but its plenty loud and am quite pleased with end result.
Just what I need a new addiction, to be continued when I need subs lol.
Again sincere thanks for help an additionally what I learned
KMARINE
In the end I unbridged the amp going from 300 watts to 150 for each speaker. I now feel my speakers should last more than 3 weeks. I do feel like the speakers want more than the 150 but its plenty loud and am quite pleased with end result.
Just what I need a new addiction, to be continued when I need subs lol.
Again sincere thanks for help an additionally what I learned
KMARINE
#45
04-01-2019, 10:07 AM
Stellar HDF Member
Now you can use channels 3 and 4 for a set of lowers. That's what a lot of us do. I think that may be why folks with only the two fairing speakers want more power (just a guess). When it comes to how much sound you hear the number of sound sources has a great impact on your listening experience. A lot of us have found that adding speakers in your lowers will make a HUGE difference in how much sound your ears can pick up.
When I just had the two speakers in the fairing up front they would get plenty loud but the sound would get tiring after a while. When I added speakers in the lowers it made the music easier to hear and less fatiguing if that makes any sense. That also gives you the option of using speakers that are different than the ones in your fairing so you can fill in some frequencies that they may be missing.
Even some of the die hard Street Glide riders that swore they would never get lowers finally gave in when they experienced the difference. Also in northern climates a little extra wind protection probably wouldn't hurt.
When I just had the two speakers in the fairing up front they would get plenty loud but the sound would get tiring after a while. When I added speakers in the lowers it made the music easier to hear and less fatiguing if that makes any sense. That also gives you the option of using speakers that are different than the ones in your fairing so you can fill in some frequencies that they may be missing.
Even some of the die hard Street Glide riders that swore they would never get lowers finally gave in when they experienced the difference. Also in northern climates a little extra wind protection probably wouldn't hurt.
#46
04-01-2019, 11:30 AM
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#47
04-01-2019, 12:33 PM
Originally Posted by Eric Steward
I thought you couldn't bridge the Arc 600.4 and 602's to get to 180w. BTW how do you get to that point?
https://www.hdforums.com/forum/showt...1162755&page=1
https://www.arcaudio.com/node/96
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