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cshocker Jul 18, 2019 11:34 AM

I still can't believe it: Not all watts are treated equally
 
So last night I went to swap out amps for a guy who contacted me because he wasn't happy with his $2K system installed by a car/boat audio place. He told me he had them install 2 sets of JL M 6.5's (lids and lowers) and 1 set of some JL 6.5 in speaker pods (2015 Street Glide with stock HU, 4-0 flash, no LL) and all 6 speakers ran off a JL MX280/4. Fronts and lowers wired parallel on channel 1/2 and rears off of 3/4. When he told what amp, I said: well there's your problem, you need more watts. So after talking, I had him order up a Stinger amp to install.

I get to house and start tearing shix apart. Then I decided I should hear what his system sounded like. I was shocked, to say the least. It actually sounded pretty damn good. I adjusted some gains and cross-overs and showed him what it sounds like with good quality music (Amazon prime music and iHeart). It then sounded even better. He was impressed. I ended up telling him that I really didn't think swamping amps would make that much a difference (I never thought I would say that) and that he can only get so much sound out of 6.5' speakers. Between the cost of amp, supplies and my labor, I honestly didn't' think he would be happy. So now he's going to upgrade his HU instead of swapping amps.

So as debating on this forum, not all watts can be treated equally!

SOFTPETER Jul 18, 2019 12:17 PM

Yep, wait till he sends some good voltage to the JL amp. It should sing.

cshocker Jul 18, 2019 12:21 PM


Originally Posted by SOFTPETER (Post 18408672)
Yep, wait till he sends some good voltage to the JL amp. It should sing.

Yeah I'm thinking a new HU will make the difference he's looking for. He's cheap and doesn't want to put much more into it and he already hates the Harley HU.

eggwhite93 Jul 18, 2019 12:54 PM

He doesn't sound cheap to me. All that JL gear is not cheap.

RANGER73 Jul 18, 2019 01:01 PM

And best of all, you made a customer for life and the referrals will be overwhelming

Tailwind Jul 18, 2019 01:58 PM

Ok CShocker, we are still waiting for the punch line man!!!!

Those speakers are being severely neglected with the low wattage being sent to those speakers.

Luv,
T

cshocker Jul 18, 2019 02:03 PM


Originally Posted by Tailwind (Post 18408897)
Ok CShocker, we are still waiting for the punch line man!!!!

Those speakers are being severely neglected with the low wattage being sent to those speakers.

Luv,
T

I'm still slapping myself to make sure it's real. I still can't believe it. Almost embarrassing telling dude to return his amp.

And I didn't even throw in the #TEAMJL into the post!

Dsm Limited Jul 18, 2019 02:05 PM

I have high hopes T.... I'm gonna take out the 1200 watts I'm running and install 2 of the 280's. That'll free up some room and my JL's should just pound.

haze324 Jul 18, 2019 02:06 PM

I would've used both amps. I only use the JL 280/4 to power tweeter. Last time I used it one bridged to a set of 6.5's it wasn't enough --- and I've been TeamJL for a very very long time. Still am!

Tailwind Jul 18, 2019 02:54 PM

Don't send that other amp back Shocker. If u run it the way it is currently set up with the high demand that will be placed on it, the amp will fry in no time. I luv that little amp for the right application but when it gets loaded up a bit, it will overheat and die.
I have gone thru 2 of them thus would never put anything but 6.5s on it bridged. Horns OR efficient 6.5s is its wheel house.

T


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