intake manifold supposed to move?
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intake manifold supposed to move?
i tore down my 2000 FLSTF to fix a couple issues i was having, I bought some new intake manifold seals from an aftermarket maker (AllBalls racing i think) i installed them and they were still leaking. when i started it back up. I was spraying some cleaner in there and it would idle down and die. I noticed the manifold wasnt exactly centered and thought this was partly my issue. I am lining it up by installing the carb and then tightening the manifold slowly.
So today i went to the dealer and bought new seals because they're cheap. Tonight i installed them the same way, very meticulously. everything very clean with a tiny bit of grease on the seals. install the carb and bracket to line up the manifold and slow tighten the manifold making sure it stays centered.... well once i get the manifold tight it can still pivot up and down, easily. Did the dealer give me the wrong seals? are there different sizes? the after market seals i had were tad thicker. i have the flanges in there correctly with the F flange in the front, flanges are not bent. ideas?
I have read every intake manifold thread on here
I am completely aggravated with this thing.
So today i went to the dealer and bought new seals because they're cheap. Tonight i installed them the same way, very meticulously. everything very clean with a tiny bit of grease on the seals. install the carb and bracket to line up the manifold and slow tighten the manifold making sure it stays centered.... well once i get the manifold tight it can still pivot up and down, easily. Did the dealer give me the wrong seals? are there different sizes? the after market seals i had were tad thicker. i have the flanges in there correctly with the F flange in the front, flanges are not bent. ideas?
I have read every intake manifold thread on here
I am completely aggravated with this thing.
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Yes, it can move. Especially with the grease on the seals. Try to avoid having it move, but it can.
Just align everything up as best a possible before tightening the manifold flanges and try to avoid any moving of the manifold. Tightening the bolts evenly, and front to back. It actually sounds like you did it right the first time.
When checking for leaks, make sure your carb is not sucking the carb cleaner in and giving you the false reading of a leaky seal.
Instead of grease, I use this on my seals:
https://www.permatex.com/products/ga...lange-sealant/
It is a substitute for "Hylomar". So if you do a little homework on it, you will find more info searching that word. You can get it at autozone, orielly, etc. It's good stuff and has many different uses. Brake clean will take it off your hands when done. It's not a gasket maker, it is a dressing/sealant that never sets up like a silicone does. It stays tacky, sealing minor imperfections, etc. YD
Just align everything up as best a possible before tightening the manifold flanges and try to avoid any moving of the manifold. Tightening the bolts evenly, and front to back. It actually sounds like you did it right the first time.
When checking for leaks, make sure your carb is not sucking the carb cleaner in and giving you the false reading of a leaky seal.
Instead of grease, I use this on my seals:
https://www.permatex.com/products/ga...lange-sealant/
It is a substitute for "Hylomar". So if you do a little homework on it, you will find more info searching that word. You can get it at autozone, orielly, etc. It's good stuff and has many different uses. Brake clean will take it off your hands when done. It's not a gasket maker, it is a dressing/sealant that never sets up like a silicone does. It stays tacky, sealing minor imperfections, etc. YD
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Thank you for the replys and info.
I called the Dealer and asked the service dept if it was normal to have movement once it was torqed down and they said yes.
My guess is the reason it doesn't move after a while is the rubber hardens up and the they " seat" in their position.
Thanks for the recommendation on the permatex product as well, i think i will clean these seals up and use some of that against the cylinder head.
I should have this back together next week sometime and will let you all know how I make out.
I called the Dealer and asked the service dept if it was normal to have movement once it was torqed down and they said yes.
My guess is the reason it doesn't move after a while is the rubber hardens up and the they " seat" in their position.
Thanks for the recommendation on the permatex product as well, i think i will clean these seals up and use some of that against the cylinder head.
I should have this back together next week sometime and will let you all know how I make out.
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Yes, he knows his stuff and his videos are a big help. If you follow his install, you will be in good shape. Grease or flange sealant, I like the non setting flange sealant as it is designed to be a sealant. The manifold won't move around with the flange sealant like it does with grease, but it will allow you to still move it enough to get things properly positioned.
Consider picking up a set of these:
https://www.denniskirk.com/diamond-e...prd/271383.sku
Any good old fashioned well stocked hardware store will have them. It will make life easier tightening down those bolts. Just pay attention to the size of the flange on the new bolts, some are bigger than others, get them close to the same size as your stock bolts. The size of the actual bolts and thread pitch is listed in the link. Good luck, YD
Consider picking up a set of these:
https://www.denniskirk.com/diamond-e...prd/271383.sku
Any good old fashioned well stocked hardware store will have them. It will make life easier tightening down those bolts. Just pay attention to the size of the flange on the new bolts, some are bigger than others, get them close to the same size as your stock bolts. The size of the actual bolts and thread pitch is listed in the link. Good luck, YD
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