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Old 03-03-2015, 09:31 AM
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With there being a ton of interest in LED/HID headlights as our stock halogen is worthless. i decided to do a quick writeup of the DDM HID kit as i have used them before on previous cars that i have owned.


here is a quick block diagram of what i did

NOTE* the ~2-3 feet was drastically shortened during final install




After i cut the bulb free i added some spade connectors



Routed the new jumper wire through the existing bucket



Spade connectors on opposite end of the new wire.



plugged it all together and i was even able to put the balast under the tank with the rest of the wires (which took some finagling and patience)

fairly simple install and the new HID's have a reflective shield below to avoid blinding oncoming traffic too much.

i unfortunately do not have a HI-beam but with these Hid's i doubt i will need one.
night pics to come when the weather cooperates

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I have been thinking about an HID for my SB.
Is the existing power wire good enough, I thought you wanted to hook to battery and use the old power wire as the trigger wire.
I would like to see a nighttime pic. What kelvin did you go with?
 
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Originally Posted by Pistonman1
I have been thinking about an HID for my SB.
Is the existing power wire good enough, I thought you wanted to hook to battery and use the old power wire as the trigger wire.
I would like to see a nighttime pic. What kelvin did you go with?
the existing power wire is 16AWG i believe and the wires from the HID kit were roughly 18AWG but with some extra insulation. wire should hold current from a 12V source just fine. 35W/12V=3A vs 55W/12V=4.5A

I went with the 35W 5K i like it because it looks closest to pure white light on the ground but the bulb has a slight blue hue to it.

i will update with pics as soon as the weather cooperates since i just did the swap i will give updates if i have any issues, i tried to make it quickly reversible in the event i needed to take it back to the dealer for elec. issues which i don't see happening.

here is a quick pic of the headlight i dunno if this helps?

 
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I am going to order a kit, I have a high low dual kit for a car from them I haven't installed yet. I am going to get a low beam only for my scoot like you did. Thanks for the write up.
 
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Originally Posted by Pistonman1
I am going to order a kit, I have a high low dual kit for a car from them I haven't installed yet. I am going to get a low beam only for my scoot like you did. Thanks for the write up.

no problem man, like i said it was tough getting it to all fit under the tank but i shoved it all in there. that was by far the toughest part.
 
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Very cool.

So what's the difference between one of these and an LED, is it purely price or do these offer a different type of beam? Is an HID like a metal halide that I used to use on my reef aquarium?

Guess I should google
 
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Very cool.

So what's the difference between one of these and an LED, is it purely price or do these offer a different type of beam? Is an HID like a metal halide that I used to use on my reef aquarium?

Guess I should google

From what i understand
LED draws less power than HID (big selling point for LED)
but unless LED are properly oriented in a housing they produce a very direct beam of light (spotlight) vs an HID which has a "360" output and can help illuminate the sides of the road better.
also with HID if it is not installed in a projector (which i didn't) you can have some scattering and oncoming traffic can be blinded. the small reflective shield that came with these lights seems to help with that but i would rather be seen.
plus this kit i installed was under $50 vs the HD daymaker @ $399.00 (which i have read has poor illumination to the side of the bike) so i figured why not give it a shot if it didn't work then later down the road i would see about the LED
here is a pic to explain. (now LED tech has significantly improved and is all dependent on type/manufacturer etc.)




it seems that the LED vs HID is mostly personal preference
 
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I see what you mean. I noticed when I tried to adjust my new light that it doesn't have as pronounced a beam as you mention. I couldn't align the hot spot to the proper height (since there was no hot spot).

Looking forward to hearing your impressions. I haven't obviously ridden with mine yet either.
 
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Originally Posted by STRES
From what i understand
LED draws less power than HID (big selling point for LED)
but unless LED are properly oriented in a housing they produce a very direct beam of light (spotlight) vs an HID which has a "360" output and can help illuminate the sides of the road better.
also with HID if it is not installed in a projector (which i didn't) you can have some scattering and oncoming traffic can be blinded. the small reflective shield that came with these lights seems to help with that but i would rather be seen.
plus this kit i installed was under $50 vs the HD daymaker @ $399.00 (which i have read has poor illumination to the side of the bike) so i figured why not give it a shot if it didn't work then later down the road i would see about the LED
here is a pic to explain. (now LED tech has significantly improved and is all dependent on type/manufacturer etc.)




it seems that the LED vs HID is mostly personal preference
I really like the LED kit from Fuelmoto. I have one on my WG and it does not have the spotlight effect. I have my high and that will even widen the beam while not making it go out any further. However I have yet to need a longer range on the light as I dont ride fast enough at night to over ride my light.
 
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Originally Posted by socialoutcast
I really like the LED kit from Fuelmoto. I have one on my WG and it does not have the spotlight effect. I have my high and that will even widen the beam while not making it go out any further. However I have yet to need a longer range on the light as I dont ride fast enough at night to over ride my light.
yea like i said the LED has and is making leaps and bounds in technology.
im glad that one is working well for you.
 


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