Front fender/ tire offset
#21
If the axle is not adjusted properly (horizontally) - then cinched in the pinch bolts - before the axle bolt (nut) is tightened
It will draw the lowers together (placing them in a bind)
It will throw off the wheel being centered between the lowers
And it will throw off the fender / wheel alignment
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Could be the horizontal axle adjustment is off (prior to the cinch bolts being torqued).., or
It could be the wrong size wheel spacer on the right side (**** happens)
Bottom line - wheel should be centered..., should align with the lowers..., and lowers / tubes should not be placed in any sort of bind (think what fun this last one induces - poor / erratic handling / suspension performance..., premature bushing wear)
If OP had a fork brace - it would make this obvious
He doesn't - and the fender will / does flex
And right now..., the fender is the only static / repeatable baseline measurement available
**** with it -> throw what little repeatable baseline measurement there is - off
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Frames are built in a jig..., wheel need to align for best handling
Suspension parts should not be placed in a self induced bind - of any sort
But what the hell - half *** solutions are easier to attain
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I spent an entire day - diagnosing..., repeating..., then fixing this exact issue
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Re-lacing the wheel is a **** poor band aid - at best.
And I'd bet the bob is off
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Have fun - I'm out
Ghost
It will draw the lowers together (placing them in a bind)
It will throw off the wheel being centered between the lowers
And it will throw off the fender / wheel alignment
=========
Could be the horizontal axle adjustment is off (prior to the cinch bolts being torqued).., or
It could be the wrong size wheel spacer on the right side (**** happens)
Bottom line - wheel should be centered..., should align with the lowers..., and lowers / tubes should not be placed in any sort of bind (think what fun this last one induces - poor / erratic handling / suspension performance..., premature bushing wear)
If OP had a fork brace - it would make this obvious
He doesn't - and the fender will / does flex
And right now..., the fender is the only static / repeatable baseline measurement available
**** with it -> throw what little repeatable baseline measurement there is - off
=================
Frames are built in a jig..., wheel need to align for best handling
Suspension parts should not be placed in a self induced bind - of any sort
But what the hell - half *** solutions are easier to attain
===============
I spent an entire day - diagnosing..., repeating..., then fixing this exact issue
======
Re-lacing the wheel is a **** poor band aid - at best.
And I'd bet the bob is off
==========
Have fun - I'm out
Ghost
Last edited by Ghost_13; 02-25-2018 at 03:50 PM.
#22
I took a few minutes and compared your and my bikes; sliders, fender, wheel, OEM tire, left and right wheel spacers, axle, and caliper are exactly the same parts. The only difference is you have ABS, and I'm non-ABS.
Owing to tolerance slack <a compounding of errors when you start ganging parts together> the front end can't be held to tight tolerances <and now you know why there's a CCE fork brace on my bike > so the front fender can't be made to tight tolerances either.
As Ghost_13 is pointing out, it's a wise idea to verify everything is in proper alignment.
Get the bike in the air, loosen the 4 fender mounting bolts, the axle nut, and the axle cap bolts. You don't need to remove anything, just loosen them up. Torque the axle nut to 62 - 67 ft-lbs while you hold the axle with a rod or screwdriver through the hole on the right end of the axle.
Then, torque the rear axle cap bolt to 132 -180 in-lbs; torque the front axle cap bolt to the same torque; the gap at the front of the axle cap is normal.
Finally, move to the fender and begin to draw the 4 mounting bolts in. There's a fair amount of slop in the fender mounting holes so hold the fender in position as you begin to snug up the mounting bolts. 15 - 21 ft-lbs on the front fender mounting bolts.
Then, let's see how everything is squared up...
#23
Thanks for all your time and advice. I'm being told all the 2016 wide glides are the same way. The moco said they are built with this offset purposely.
I will try what you and ghost are saying and let you know what I come up with. Thanks.
I will try what you and ghost are saying and let you know what I come up with. Thanks.
Last edited by ChickinOnaChain; 03-03-2018 at 07:26 PM.
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