It's called your right wrist...

 

tons of maps. Especially all VH systems. Plus iy has auto tune after yo tweak it.

if u think one day you will do stage2+ get the thunder max. The fp3 is married to your VIN so you cant sell it out after. Thats 300 bux down the drain. The TM was on my list and my mechanic also swears by it.

 

I am running the ThunderMax as well and it has made life very easy for me. I started out with a cat removed 2009 exhaust was it had bungs for the wide band o2 sensors. I then went with a SE high flow aircleaner and ditched the football AC cover. Next thing I did was install SE 204 cam. and finally I went from a 96 cu in to a 103 cu in. It was easy to go in and update the maps and have a tuned bike to ride away on as soon as I finished working on it. There are probably other tuners out there that will do the same thing, but, I went with thunderMax nad have had 50 or 60000 trouble free miles even with all of the mods I made.

 

 

+1 on the PowerVison. Cheaper than the TMax and it's plugin - flash - unplug - go, no matter if its stage 1 to 4. TMax seems overkill for what your wanting to do, with the wide bands and all.

 

I would tend to agree.

 

T-max is a great unit, I love mine. Other considerations however would be a Power Vision or TTS. Important to note, the t-max is a stand alone system. You have to remove the factory ECU and replace it. The way it works is a little different aswell. It uses TPS for timing vs load (like the TTS). From my experience Dyno tuners prefer the TTS over the t-max. All depends on what your after.

Also worth noting...Yes the t-max has autotune, you won't ever have to worry about AFR (you can also create your own AFR curve. I.E. leaner at cruising speed and richer at WOT). What you do need to worry about though is timing. This is NOT dynamic. You have a few options here...

1. Leave it alone and trust the base map (t-max sets these conservative)
2. Have it dyno tuned (tuner can dial in the timing at different RPM AND throttle position)
3. Play with the timing yourself

The t-max worked for me because I knew I would do my bike in stages. Started out 96". Then stage 1. Then I swapped exhaust about 3 times looking for that perfect sound/look/performance. Eventually did a full rebuild on the top end. All having never taken the bike to a tuner. Just load a new map, ride around, and save the adjustments it made as the new file.

 

 

OK, as I usually let things just come to me, if I'm in no hurry or even really care if i get something...I got a couple T-Max systems today.

Don't really know their history, but so cheap I'll take 'em

 

I have always used Thundermax and been riding Harleys for fortyfive years or better.. Had a de-cel pop and hard to start problem. Called em up and they told me what to change and bingo worked perfect. If I drive from the coast to the mountains it automatically adjusts your bike as you ride. Super easy to install on newer bikes. Change air cleaner, cam, pipes or anything else you don't have to drag the bike to the dealer. If you enjoy spending time and money at the stealership by all means get something else. Also I found one for my 2019 Ultra Limited M8 114 for 768 bucks no tax delivered free. Just make sure you get a usb cable for your lap top and hang the cable somewhere you can get to it so you don't have to remove the seat latter.