install cost gear drive cams & bearings on Twin Cam?
Thinking about installing the S&S gear drive setup and wondering how much to get the gear cams & bearings installed on my Twin Cam 88.
I'd usually do my own work, but it looks like I'd need to buy the bearing puller and installer ( for $93) - something I'll probably only use once in my life. Not sure, but I might also need this for another for another $93. (please comment if I do or do not need this in addition to the other tool) So what kind of prices did folks pay to get this stuff installed? Independent vs. HD dealer service? Thanks! |
You’ll have close to $1,000 in parts. Are you getting adjustable pushrods? Most dealerships get $100-$150 an hour plus tax, shop fees etc. I don’t know how many hours they charge for it, but you should be able to get in the ballpark with those figures. If you’re confident you can do the job I would just buy the tool. You’ll save a ton of money, and you should be able to resell the tool for pretty close to what you paid for it. |
Originally Posted by brownie4412
(Post 17939798)
You’ll have close to $1,000 in parts. Are you getting adjustable pushrods? Most dealerships get $100-$150 an hour plus tax, shop fees etc. I don’t know how many hours they charge for it, but you should be able to get in the ballpark with those figures. If you’re confident you can do the job I would just buy the tool. You’ll save a ton of money, and you should be able to resell the tool for pretty close to what you paid for it. On the other hand, if I do the work myself, I'll know the bearings were replaced instead of just being told they were. ;) |
Originally Posted by AJ88V
(Post 17939817)
Thanks, Brownie. I was figuring it's about a two hour job from what I can see, so at $100 and hour, the costs of the tools kind of pays for the installation, and I get the benefits of having it done by someone who has probably done it before and they're responsible for the work. Plus I make a new relationship.
On the other hand, if I do the work myself, I'll know the bearings were replaced instead of just being told they were. ;) |
Keep in mind it's not just the time installing the cams. Hell I can spend 2 hours just to R&R the exhaust :)
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You'll need to check your crank runout to see if you can even run gear driven cams...anything beyond .003 and you're looking for a disaster down the road. Why do you want gear drives? If bike has the spring tensioners it's cheaper to do the conversion to hydraulic than gear drive. You could just change out the cam shoes to cyco brand and not have to worry about it again for another 30k...cheap option that you could do yourself for around 200 bucks or so. If you buy the puller resell it or keep it...who doesnt like more tools? You'll save money by buying the tools and doing it yourself...dealerships are expensive. You might even find someone here to loan it to you. I have one but it sounds like you have the earlier twin cam, my tool is for the later model.
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Hate to say it after all the energy I've put into this bike, but the chain tensioners worry me and I'm thinking it might be best just to get a new bike.
OPTION 1: $100 in parts to change the shoes - my labor - leaves me with suspect bearings and no performance gain OPTION 2: Change the shoes ($100), cams and bearings (($270), adjustable push rods ($80), buy the tool ($100 - $200) = $550 to $650. Not bad. Get a performance boost. I can tune the carb just fine, thank you. OPTION 3: Assume my crank runout is acceptable and install the gear drive cam kit S&S 510G ($570), adj. push rods ($80), buy the tool ($100 - $200) = $750 to $850 (maybe more to pay someone else to install) Option 1 and I have the same bike and can just enjoy it the way it is for another 20-30K miles and pray the bearings are good. Options 2 and 3 will demand I buy the exhaust I want, so that adds $700 minimum, but would be a pretty sweet setup, but means I just threw $1500 into a 16 year old Dyna that I've already got maybe $5800 "invested" getting it the way I want it. OPTION 4: Sell the '03 Dyna for $5K in the spring to pay for a later model Dyna this winter (say $7 - $10K for a 2007 or later) OPTION 5: There's a great 2018 Road Glide for sale locally.LOL! |
Gotta have a clear vision. I've got 3x-4x the book value of my bike invested SO FAR (not counting the bike itself) and have another $5k or so planned. Rapidly approaching '19 FXDR money...and no regrets.
Would that new bike be EXACTLY what you want as purchased? If not, don't forget to add the cost of anticipated mods. |
Originally Posted by AJ88V
(Post 17939463)
Thinking about installing the S&S gear drive setup and wondering how much to get the gear cams & bearings installed on my Twin Cam 88.
I'd usually do my own work, but it looks like I'd need to buy the bearing puller and installer (Heartland kit for $93) - something I'll probably only use once in my life. Not sure, but I might also need this for another cam support plate bearing tool for another $93. (please comment if I do or do not need this in addition to the other tool) So what kind of prices did folks pay to get this stuff installed? Independent vs. HD dealer service? Thanks! But cggorman's thoughts are worth paying attention to... I'm a little more than halfway to having the bike I REALLY want. It's been mostly rideable along the way, I love it, and I can't imagine enjoying a new (or newer) bike more. Therefore it's all worth it. If you don't feel that way, than it wouldn't be... Only you know the answer! |
If you decide to tackle this yourself, I have the Heartland inner bearing puller/installer tool and the support plate to press in the new cams (did it with a large C clamp). These are for the early twin cams. Pay shipping back and forth and you can use them. Also have two new B148 inner bearings, still in plastic. Bought a set separately and these came with the puller. You can have them, they’re just sitting in my toolbox. PM me if interested. |
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