Tell Me I’m Not On Drugs
#1
07-05-2019, 06:55 PM
Tell Me I’m Not On Drugs
I’ve got a blown fork seal and I go to this new shop because the normal places I’d go are booked for weeks out. My bike is a 2004 FXDXI. The guys tries to upsell me on getting a Racetech Cartridge set up and I said “no I’m good with the stock cartridge set up at this point” . He tells me my bike doesn’t have cartridges. I said yes they do bro....it’s an FXDX...superglide sport with sport suspension.
Guy says nah man, it’s a spring set up. Ok...then what are these adjuster ***** for on top and the bottom? He says maybe someone threw some after market set up in there because the only stock model with cartridges was a 41mm set up.
He then tells me there wouldn’t be fork fluid leaking IF it was a cartridge because the cartridges have nitrogen inside and not fluid. He also was asking if I’d want stock length Racetech parts. I told him no, FXDX is +2. So again, he tells me it has to be aftermarket becuse the length is wrong.
Most of you say, turn your tail and leave, which I was tempted to, but I saw a few old guys in the back with solid beards and gray hair, so I decided to leave it, just for the satisfaction of the phone call tomorrow when they crack into it and see cartridges.
Guy says nah man, it’s a spring set up. Ok...then what are these adjuster ***** for on top and the bottom? He says maybe someone threw some after market set up in there because the only stock model with cartridges was a 41mm set up.
He then tells me there wouldn’t be fork fluid leaking IF it was a cartridge because the cartridges have nitrogen inside and not fluid. He also was asking if I’d want stock length Racetech parts. I told him no, FXDX is +2. So again, he tells me it has to be aftermarket becuse the length is wrong.
Most of you say, turn your tail and leave, which I was tempted to, but I saw a few old guys in the back with solid beards and gray hair, so I decided to leave it, just for the satisfaction of the phone call tomorrow when they crack into it and see cartridges.
#2
07-05-2019, 07:07 PM
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#3
07-05-2019, 07:10 PM
Im thinking (or hoping) he was just the front desk guy because he was up front and there were some greasy biker dudes in the back working on bikes. Idk maybe he was messing with me or trying to sell me some bull **** parts, but I was shocked.
Last edited by fxdx1985; 07-05-2019 at 07:11 PM.
#4
07-05-2019, 08:29 PM
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The problem with this "sweet victory" is that it won't get them any closer to understanding your suspension. Do you really want your forks being taken apart and put back together (hopefully) by someone who really doesn't understand how they work? There are nuances to be aware of... Just one example: If the rebound adjusters are in the wrong position when reassembled, you'll lose almost the full range if adjustability. Another example: Damper rod suspensions often are improved with heavier oil... The opposite is often true with these cartridges. I would go to a shop familiar with Showa cartridges... Almost the same ones were used in tons of other bikes.
#5
07-05-2019, 08:31 PM
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07-05-2019, 08:43 PM
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#7
07-05-2019, 08:46 PM
I went to my local dealer a week ago, called ahead, needed the copper packing washer for the hex bolt that secures the fork internals at the bottom.
The parts fellow just could not figure it out. Was accusing me of not knowing what I was asking. Marooon. I showed him the part on his diagram, he kept telling me it was something else.
I left.
Got the dam washers at another dealer.
Hopefully you have mechanics there who are honest fellows.
To each their own and I know wrenching is not for everyone but my wife and I pulled my forks off and put cartridges in em and it just took us a few hours. My seals were in fine shape so I didn't replace them.
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#8
07-05-2019, 09:06 PM
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#9
07-05-2019, 09:23 PM
I'm an old guy with a sweet beard and I can't even put my gas cap on with out cross threading it. But seriously maybe they had the dumb guy out front because ...well he's the dumb guy and he's probably better in front than out back working on bikes. Trust in the beard.
They either finish it up right or crack it open and say they don’t know what they’re doing and call me to come pick it up.
#10
07-05-2019, 09:24 PM
Road Master
I’ve got a blown fork seal and I go to this new shop because the normal places I’d go are booked for weeks out. My bike is a 2004 FXDXI. The guys tries to upsell me on getting a Racetech Cartridge set up and I said “no I’m good with the stock cartridge set up at this point” . He tells me my bike doesn’t have cartridges. I said yes they do bro....it’s an FXDX...superglide sport with sport suspension.
Guy says nah man, it’s a spring set up. Ok...then what are these adjuster ***** for on top and the bottom? He says maybe someone threw some after market set up in there because the only stock model with cartridges was a 41mm set up.
He then tells me there wouldn’t be fork fluid leaking IF it was a cartridge because the cartridges have nitrogen inside and not fluid. He also was asking if I’d want stock length Racetech parts. I told him no, FXDX is +2. So again, he tells me it has to be aftermarket becuse the length is wrong.
Most of you say, turn your tail and leave, which I was tempted to, but I saw a few old guys in the back with solid beards and gray hair, so I decided to leave it, just for the satisfaction of the phone call tomorrow when they crack into it and see cartridges.
Guy says nah man, it’s a spring set up. Ok...then what are these adjuster ***** for on top and the bottom? He says maybe someone threw some after market set up in there because the only stock model with cartridges was a 41mm set up.
He then tells me there wouldn’t be fork fluid leaking IF it was a cartridge because the cartridges have nitrogen inside and not fluid. He also was asking if I’d want stock length Racetech parts. I told him no, FXDX is +2. So again, he tells me it has to be aftermarket becuse the length is wrong.
Most of you say, turn your tail and leave, which I was tempted to, but I saw a few old guys in the back with solid beards and gray hair, so I decided to leave it, just for the satisfaction of the phone call tomorrow when they crack into it and see cartridges.
( just cause you got a good one , don't mean you have to do all of it ...put it out about haft way next time !!!)
good luck !!!
we're with the ones stated above ...Learn to do it yourself !!! (then do the other haft !!!)
Last edited by springers4ever; 07-05-2019 at 09:27 PM.
