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WS6 Formula 12-23-2008 10:35 PM

Anybody replace there in tank fuel line?
 
Anybody replace there in tank fuel line instead of replacing the whole assembly? I have three locations that have contacted the inside of the tank and have worn down the outside of the tubing, and one has a pin hole.
I think the fix would be to use Gates SAE 30R10 Submersible Fuel Line, using a shorter length so that it doesn't hit the tank walls, and/or putting tie wraps on those contact points. Harley only sells the one line from the tank quick disconnect to the regulator/filter, the other line requires you to buy the fuel pump.

Fuel line tank output to pump item#19 P/N 62194-04
Retail: $55.92
Chicago HD: $44.74
Zanotti's: 36.35

Fuel pump assembly item#7 P/N 61016-04B
Retail: $160.00
Chicago HD: $128.00
Zanotti's: 105.92

Fuel pump assembly with regulator item#26 P/N 75218-04B
Retail: $250.00
Chicago HD: $200.00
Zanotti's: ?



mud 12-24-2008 06:16 AM


Originally Posted by WS6 Formula (Post 4276085)
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Anybody replace there in tank fuel line instead of replacing the whole assembly?

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I think the fix would be to use Gates SAE 30R10 Submersible Fuel Line,

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WS6, I haven't replaced my line, but that sounds like a good idea.

Where are you finding the Gates line??

mud

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WS6 Formula 12-24-2008 06:59 AM

I haven't found it yet, but looks like NAPA auto parts carries it. 5/16" @ around $20.00 a foot, a lot cheaper then replacing the factory assembly.

Info below I found from searching on Google:

Gates Submersible Fuel Line:
http://ww2.gates.com/europe/brochure...cation_id=5165

NAPA Item# NBH H209:
http://www.napaonline.com/Catalog/Ca...209_0006447045

"Some good info about in-tank fuel pump hose"
http://www.nloc.net/vbforum/showthre...fuel+pump+hose

wkdavistx 12-24-2008 10:13 AM

That's really crappy how they do that. They should have designed it so it wouldn't contact the inside of the tank.

anubisss 12-24-2008 10:16 AM

HAd mine replaced with the same Harley fuel line. Worked like a charm...

jmpancoast 12-24-2008 11:35 AM

I am getting ready to pull the guts out of my tank and ran into this thread. I think I will replace this fuel line while I am in there. I have a NAPA warehouse nearby and they stock thsi Gates hose.

kk6pg 12-24-2008 12:04 PM

Better make sure the Gates hose is flexible enough. Those pvdf pump fittings wont take a whole lot of abuse if they're stressed.

WS6 Formula 01-08-2009 11:30 PM

Here's the low budget fix for the leaking factory fuel lines caused by fuel lines rubbing on the inside of the tank surfaces (A lot cheaper then having to buy the whole factory assembly). Made a shorter line from fuel filter housing output to tank output, original was too long and rubbed on top of the tank causing a pin hole, new line doesn't touch anything.

Also made the pump output to the regulator / filter housing shorter, this one fits snug around the regulator / filter housing, and when installed inside the tank it is snug in between the regulator / filter housing and the tanks fuel gauge housing, don't think that is going to vibrate and wear through like the factory line.

Also used constant tension fuel line clamps, similar to the original ones that are on the tanks output fuel line to the injector fuel rail. Didn't want to chance of screw type loosening from vibration, and didn't use the crimp type just in case the fuel line softened with age (constant tension fuel line clamps will self tighten). On the fuel line clamps, you will have to clip off the clamp tabs to slip it through the tank output threaded hole.

Gates Submersible Fuel Line
Gates P/N 27093
Inside Diameter 5/16 Inch
Working Pressure 100 psi
Length 1 foot:
http://www.gates.com/products/automo...fuel-line-hose

I bought two one foot Gates Submersible Fuel Lines for $39.90 from:
https://www.lightningforceperformanc...es_Brand).html




Originally Posted by WS6 Formula (Post 16148039)
I bought a fuel pump kit for my car from this place below, they carry that type of fuel line you're looking for. If you want the factory Harley Davidson line it only comes attached to the fuel pump.

http://www.racetronix.biz/searchresu...=Fuel+Tube&Tp=

Also search Google: https://www.google.com/#q=corrugated+fuel+line




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archergodwin 01-08-2009 11:39 PM

Very nice WS6, thanks for the heads up/info.

WS6 Formula 01-24-2009 12:40 PM


Originally Posted by wkdavistx (Post 4277476)
That's really crappy how they do that. They should have designed it so it wouldn't contact the inside of the tank.

I agree, especially since they do know it is a problem.


Originally Posted by anubisss (Post 4277499)
HAd mine replaced with the same Harley fuel line. Worked like a charm...

That's great, as long as you don't mind doing it again. So are the Softails the same setup as the Dyna's? Does it look just like the photos above?


Originally Posted by jmpancoast (Post 4277929)
I am getting ready to pull the guts out of my tank and ran into this thread. I think I will replace this fuel line while I am in there. I have a NAPA warehouse nearby and they stock thsi Gates hose.

Just make sure you get the submersible line, it is printed on the hose.


Originally Posted by kk6pg (Post 4278018)
Better make sure the Gates hose is flexible enough. Those pvdf pump fittings wont take a whole lot of abuse if they're stressed.

Seems flexible enough that it isn't putting a load on the fittings, as well as not flexible enough to vibrate around to rub another hole thru the hose. Also I think these fittings are a little beefier then the one that goes to the external fuel rail.


Originally Posted by archergodwin (Post 4353755)
Very nice WS6, thanks for the heads up/info.

Your welcome.




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8 years later
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