Oil Change Disaster with Rogue Chopper Oil Change Kit - Need Advice
#11
02-19-2012, 05:54 PM
It is possible to remove the oil pan with the engine in the bike. I know cos a pal of mine did it last year. Only problem is - I don't know the whole story and he's working in Italy at the moment and I don't have contact details for him.
What I remember was that there were a few important things but the only one that I remember was that its a matter of raising the engine within the frame so you get clearance between the frame and engine. He had the back wheel off too so the pan could be slid out. I think its a matter of removing the front engine mount too and then using an extra jack to put pressure up on the engine to get it clear of the frame. Oh ya, you may also need to grind down the short end of an allen wrench so it will fit.
Sorry that's all a bit vague.
What I remember was that there were a few important things but the only one that I remember was that its a matter of raising the engine within the frame so you get clearance between the frame and engine. He had the back wheel off too so the pan could be slid out. I think its a matter of removing the front engine mount too and then using an extra jack to put pressure up on the engine to get it clear of the frame. Oh ya, you may also need to grind down the short end of an allen wrench so it will fit.
Sorry that's all a bit vague.
#12
02-19-2012, 07:13 PM
It is possible to remove the oil pan with the engine in the bike. I know cos a pal of mine did it last year. Only problem is - I don't know the whole story and he's working in Italy at the moment and I don't have contact details for him.
What I remember was that there were a few important things but the only one that I remember was that its a matter of raising the engine within the frame so you get clearance between the frame and engine. He had the back wheel off too so the pan could be slid out. I think its a matter of removing the front engine mount too and then using an extra jack to put pressure up on the engine to get it clear of the frame. Oh ya, you may also need to grind down the short end of an allen wrench so it will fit.
Sorry that's all a bit vague.
What I remember was that there were a few important things but the only one that I remember was that its a matter of raising the engine within the frame so you get clearance between the frame and engine. He had the back wheel off too so the pan could be slid out. I think its a matter of removing the front engine mount too and then using an extra jack to put pressure up on the engine to get it clear of the frame. Oh ya, you may also need to grind down the short end of an allen wrench so it will fit.
Sorry that's all a bit vague.
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Problem is fixed. I removed the L-shaped tube with a coathanger and a bent-nose, reverse forceps.
Regarding removal of oil pan, I can see that the engine would need to be lifted up. Fortunately, removing the oil pan will not be necessary.
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02-19-2012, 07:36 PM
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#16
02-19-2012, 08:28 PM
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I'm reading this a little late and I'm glad everything worked out but if things hadn't gone right the picture in this link would probably help. It's a little bit of work but taking the exhaust off and popping the trans cover exposes some opening into the crankcase. This is where the dipstick goes and might've been easier to get the tube out.
https://www.hdforums.com/forum/membe...re122448-a.jpg
https://www.hdforums.com/forum/membe...re122448-a.jpg
#17
02-19-2012, 08:40 PM
#18
02-19-2012, 09:46 PM
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#19
08-23-2013, 06:31 PM
I purchased the oil change kit from Rogue Chopper because I thought it would be a good idea to get ALL of the old oil out. I had seen the Rogue Chopper ad in my American Iron Magazines and saw their online video. I had been changing my oil every 5,000 miles the old fashioned way since buying my 2007 FXDC in April 2007. The bike runs fine.
Today, disaster. The Rogue Chopper Kit has an L-shaped tube, the short end of which goes into the oil return hole behind the oil fill spout. The directions tell you to take off the oil fill spout and insert the short end of the L-shaped tube into the oil return hole and then put a clear tub onto the long end of the L-shaped tube. You guessed it - my hands got slippery and I dropped the L-shaped tube into the crankcase where it promptly sank to the bottom of the crankcase. The L-shaped tube is about 4 inches long on the long side and 1 inch on the short side. I drained my brand new oil out to see if I could get the L-shaped tube out with a long screwdriver. I gave up on that after 2 hours. Then, I figured I'd remove the oil pan - gee, how hard could that be? I drained my transmission fluid in anticipation of removing the oil pan. Well it looks easy in my service manual. However, I cannot reach one of the bolts on the right side of the oil pan because the frame is in the way. I have my 2007 all the way up on my J&S jack and I cannot reach that one bolt to save my life. It looks like the engine has to be lifted up a bit.
Does anyone have any advice? My nearest Harley dealer is 17 miles away in Rahway, NJ and I don't have a trailer. Can I ride the bike with this L-shaped tube in the bottom of my oil pan to the dealer?
If anyone has any suggestions, including anyone who might live near me and could get the oil pan off and on again, I am open to suggestions.
Thanks,
Richard
Today, disaster. The Rogue Chopper Kit has an L-shaped tube, the short end of which goes into the oil return hole behind the oil fill spout. The directions tell you to take off the oil fill spout and insert the short end of the L-shaped tube into the oil return hole and then put a clear tub onto the long end of the L-shaped tube. You guessed it - my hands got slippery and I dropped the L-shaped tube into the crankcase where it promptly sank to the bottom of the crankcase. The L-shaped tube is about 4 inches long on the long side and 1 inch on the short side. I drained my brand new oil out to see if I could get the L-shaped tube out with a long screwdriver. I gave up on that after 2 hours. Then, I figured I'd remove the oil pan - gee, how hard could that be? I drained my transmission fluid in anticipation of removing the oil pan. Well it looks easy in my service manual. However, I cannot reach one of the bolts on the right side of the oil pan because the frame is in the way. I have my 2007 all the way up on my J&S jack and I cannot reach that one bolt to save my life. It looks like the engine has to be lifted up a bit.
Does anyone have any advice? My nearest Harley dealer is 17 miles away in Rahway, NJ and I don't have a trailer. Can I ride the bike with this L-shaped tube in the bottom of my oil pan to the dealer?
If anyone has any suggestions, including anyone who might live near me and could get the oil pan off and on again, I am open to suggestions.
Thanks,
Richard
http://shop.roguechopper.com/product...-scavenger-kit
I only bought it because i need to remove all the old 20/50 Harley oil that sits in the sump.
I plan on using AMSOIL Synthetic 20/50 from now on and i just don't want the 2 different oils mixing together.
http://www.amsoil.com/lit/databulletins/g2090.pdf
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