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Old Jun 12, 2017 | 10:40 AM
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I start my bike and take a jumper wire and touch the back of the tachometer and the other end on the top of head light or any metal and the bike will shut off! I can tough the back of the tachometer with my hand and I don't get a shock until I touch something metal. The tach should be insulated, Correct? I took the back of the tach off and I don't see any bare wires anywhere.
 
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Old Jun 13, 2017 | 05:36 AM
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I start my bike and take a jumper wire and touch the back of the tachometer and the other end on the top of head light or any metal and the bike will shut off! I can tough the back of the tachometer with my hand and I don't get a shock until I touch something metal. The tach should be insulated, Correct? I took the back of the tach off and I don't see any bare wires anywhere.


The tach is floating at some VDC potential - I'd say there's a wiring fault within.


House circuits have a grounding plug to prevent electrocution? For arguments sake say you have a drill with a metal body and a dysfunctional grounding plug. Plugged in, you receive an electrical shock? What is occurring is that internally, there is a fault that allows the drill body to become 'floating' at some a/c potential. When you touch the drill body, your body provides the path to ground and you feel an electrical shock (maybe kill you depending on your grounding).


I suspect the tach has the same fault. Insulating the tach from ground doesn't do anything other than allowing it to 'float'. Any path to ground is basically shorting out the electrical system.
 
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Old Jun 13, 2017 | 07:52 AM
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Would you say that I should just replace the tach or can it be repaired?
 
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Old Jun 13, 2017 | 07:57 AM
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Originally Posted by glv1@comcast.net
I start my bike and take a jumper wire and touch the back of the tachometer and the other end on the top of head light or any metal and the bike will shut off! I can tough the back of the tachometer with my hand and I don't get a shock until I touch something metal. The tach should be insulated, Correct? I took the back of the tach off and I don't see any bare wires anywhere.
check the ground from the front forks to chassis (frame). sounds like its missing or broken.
 
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Old Jun 13, 2017 | 08:12 AM
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Ok, Thank you!
 
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This is my first bike and its a 92 heritage soft tail. Would be able to direct me in the location where the ground should be. Thank You!
 
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Most digital circuits require a good ground to operate, it prevents ambiguous logical (electrical) states? That is not what is happening here - the entire device is floating at some VDC potential? It's dragging down the entire power grid when you provide a ground. I'd suspect the tach.
 
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So then I should replace the tach
 
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Originally Posted by glv1@comcast.net
This is my first bike and its a 92 heritage soft tail. Would be able to direct me in the location where the ground should be. Thank You!
Grounds are typically located just aft of the fuel tank under the seat. Otherwise other things are just frame grounded.
 
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Originally Posted by glv1@comcast.net
This is my first bike and its a 92 heritage soft tail. Would be able to direct me in the location where the ground should be. Thank You!
Not sure on a 92, but there's typically a ground from the upper or lower fork trees to the frame (ground). A lot of the early bikes ran the ground from the bottom riser bolt to the frame (chassis ground).

You can easily varify a ground fault by running a jumper from the fork tree (upper or lower) to the frame.
 
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